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[JobacNoor]

Am I the only one that's completely stumped when it comes to what kind of Inquisitor to go with? Granted, I'm horribly indecisive when it comes to things like this in general.

 

Warrior type classes have been my go-to class forever whenever I'm starting a first playthrough of a new game. It's a role I'm comfortable with and it feels like a "safe" way to go about the first playthrough and learn the game. HOWEVER, this time around everything I've seen thus far makes it look horribly uninteresting in comparison to the other two classes. The Rogues and Mages get a lot of fun stuff like traps, stuns, AOE effects and spells, throwing around caltrops and fighting like f***ing Gandalf. Warriors get to.... roleplay as Scorpion? Then there's also the fact that both Cassandra and Iron Bull are quite high on my list of which party members I'll most likely use most of the time.

 

The recent gameplay footage has really sold me on Rogues, but I just feel somehow... insecure in picking somebody squishy as the main character. I've played through Origins and DA2 multiple times on nightmare, so I suppose this is quite silly. The Inquisitor being a Rogue is also a problem because as with the Warrior, I have two other Rogues that I'll probably use a lot in Varric and Sera.

 

That leaves the Mage which would have the same problem of being squishy, but beyond that the only other negative I'm coming up with that it wouldn't be a trusty, boring ol' Warrior. In terms of party members there wouldn't be much conflict either, as Dorian is really the only one I can see myself bringing along with any regularity for playthrough #1, but even he is behind the other four that I've already mentioned in the pecking order.

 

Decisions, decisions.

 

TL;DR:

 

I'm an indecisive nerd.

Blame multiplayer.

[Milan92]

Haha, I feel the same. Though I'm confident I'll either play a Rogue or Warrior first and leave the mage for a second playthrough.

 

Which makes my case a bit easier, but its troublesome all the same! 

[In Exile]

I don't like rogues, and generally don't play them as a PC. I can't decide between warriors and mages, however, because I really like damage dealers and it's looking very much like - as with DA2 - if you want damage you have to go rogue. I kind of want to play a KE, but I'm unsure. 

[steamcamel]

Perhaps multiplayer will help you in that regard?

[katerinafm]

Warrior gameplay looks the most fun so far to me, but I am going to play as a mage for my first playthrough anyway, for story reasons.

[Nyaore]

I've never been a fan of warriors, the last time I played one was back in Origins and while that character was one of my favorites for awhile I never enjoyed playing her like I did a mage or rogue. This time I'm going to be playing a mage first, then a rogue, and possibly then another type of mage. If playing warrior as one of the companions sells me on the class then I'll give in and roll one, otherwise it's just not my style. (Not saying it's a bad class or disparaging people who like it, I just have never been able to like it myself. Different playstyles.)

[SgtSteel91]

I like using sword and shield in games like Dark Souls but I also don't want to be delegated as a Tank. Like, I want to take down enemies, not just be a distraction and a damage sponge. I want to take hits but also be able to dish them out equally.

[EdwinLi]

 

I like using sword and shield in games like Dark Souls but I also don't want to be delegated as a Tank. Like, I want to take down enemies, not just be a distraction and a damage sponge. I want to take hits but also be able to dish them out equally.

 

 

Well you can still go Damage Dealing as a Warrior with Two-handed Weapons. 

 

 

So if you're looking for focus on DD then...

 

Warrior Two-handed weapon for slow attack but High Damage. This one has abilities that can break enemies defense like those annoying Shield enemies and even stagger enemies. Reaver Specalization will be ideal for DD as a Warrior since this specialization is designed for DD by sacrificing the Warrior's HP for more damage or stealing enemies HP or simply by taking damage and killing enemies. Reaver Specalization is the Dark Knight tree for this game.

 

Rogue Daggers for fast attacks as your DD.

 

Rogue bow for Long range DD. Got some skills like explosive Arrows to break enemies defense and knockdown along with other type of arrows like a  AoE stun Arrow.

 

Mages for their Magic Range DD

[TheEternalStudent]

Go warrior.
And leave all the rogue for me.

[Ashelsu]

I would go with a Knight-Enchanter mage. This way you can run with your favourite companions (and test their warrior and rogue skills), not as squishy as an ordinary mage = you can melee. Best of two worlds.

[JobacNoor]

I don't like rogues, and generally don't play them as a PC. I can't decide between warriors and mages, however, because I really like damage dealers and it's looking very much like - as with DA2 - if you want damage you have to go rogue. I kind of want to play a KE, but I'm unsure. 

 

You could get some pretty mean DPS out of Warriors in DA2, IIRC I used Vanguard, Berserker and Reaver and was cutting through almost everything like a hot knife through butter.

[SgtSteel91]

 

 

 

 

Well you can still go Damage Dealing as a Warrior with Two-handed Weapons. 

 

 

So if you're looking for focus on DD then...

 

Warrior Two-handed weapon for slow attack but High Damage. This one has abilities that can break enemies defense like those annoying Shield enemies and even stagger enemies.

 

Rogue Daggers for fast attacks as your DD.

 

Rogue bow for Long range DD. Got some skills like explosive Arrows to break enemies defense and knockdown along with other type of arrows like a  AoE stun Arrow.

 

Mages for their Magic Range DD

 

 

 

But I want to use a sword and shield and also be a damage dealer or at least not just a tank. That's going to be much harder.

[Ashelsu]

You could get some pretty mean DPS out of Warriors in DA2, IIRC I used Vanguard, Berserker and Reaver and was cutting through almost everything like a hot knife through butter.

Yep. Death machine against crowds. The more enemies the better!

I will miss berserk...

[TogaedVermin]

I will be going with mage for sure. In all the DA games I have been a mage and never got bored once. In DA2 i just loved the feeling of lobbing a fireball and seeing all of the hopeless guards fly off burning, just hilarious! DAO was great playing a mage too, never going change from them however if i were to choose out of rogue or warrior I would probably choose warrior to smack everything in the face with a massive hammer.

[Icy Magebane]

But I want to use a sword and shield and also be a damage dealer or at least not just a tank. That's going to be much harder.

The Weapon and Shield tree has a a couple of powerful attacks from what I've seen (Lunge and Slash, Payback Strike), plus you can choose the Reaver spec for further damage boosts... I think the real difference is that 2 Handers do AoE damage while 1 Handed weapons hit single targets.... except for Mauls, which are mostly single target 2 handers...

 

There is also Shield Bash... basically, just pick 8 offense oriented skills and passives to compliment that style.

[EdwinLi]

But I want to use a sword and shield and also be a damage dealer or at least not just a tank. That's going to be much harder.

 

You could try mixing Sword and Shield with Reaver Specialization.

 

Reaver is the Dark Knight tree of this game so it focus on turning the Warrior's tank like parts of their stats into fuel for their DD. You may get a decent DD sword and Shield warrior with Reaver but not as high DD as a Two-handed sword reaver.

 

However, the benefits of the two Reavers are...

 

Weapon and Shield Reaver - less likely to kill it self and faster attack speed but DD a bit lower than Two-handed Reaver.

 

Two-Handed Reaver - DD focused but may get killed more easily and slower attack speed

[In Exile]

You could get some pretty mean DPS out of Warriors in DA2, IIRC I used Vanguard, Berserker and Reaver and was cutting through almost everything like a hot knife through butter.

 

With a 2H warrior and a properly upgraded elemental mage to use brittle, the damage was substantial. But it still didn't hold a candle to the assassin. 

[Ashelsu]

With a 2H warrior and a properly upgraded elemental mage to use brittle, the damage was substantial. But it still didn't hold a candle to the assassin. 

Why not stagger? Both mages and rogues can capitalize on it. And you can stagger a lot.

[JobacNoor]

With a 2H warrior and a properly upgraded elemental mage to use brittle, the damage was substantial. But it still didn't hold a candle to the assassin. 

 

Obviously, nothing is going to beat the Assassin spec in terms of raw DPS and burst damage.

[In Exile]

Why not stagger? Both mages and rogues can capitalize on it. And you can stagger a lot.

 

Then you're the alley rather than the oop, and I don't actually like the abilities that trigger off stagger for rogues. I prefer brittle to abuse burst arrow with Varric. The only useful spell, IMO, that really triggered off stagger for a non-Hawke mage was chain lightning.

[Basement Cat]

If you really can't decide, do what I do: use the die of hard decisions.

 

1: warrior

2: rogue

3: mage

[In Exile]

Obviously, nothing is going to beat the Assassin spec in terms of raw DPS and burst damage.

 

That's what I meant, though. I'd like for warriors to go back to being the class that, well, was good at war.

[Malamius]

I'm in pretty much the exact same boat with the exact same thoughts.  My default is a warrior in most games, I like close combat and smashing things.  That being said, I always do well with a combat rogue, but I've always been bad at sneaking around.  It sometime feels weird with all these powerful characters running around to be the guy with just some daggers. That being said, I think I'm going to end up having to go multiple plays in order to get a little bit of everything.  

 

I'm thinking my main will be a human two hander, second will be a female dwarf rogue planning to protect/lift up the common people (with Sara as the LI), and finally a mage for the variety/ being able to bring a different group of companions.  

 

Part of my indecision is, like you, the companions and wanting to bring certain ones while still being able to play nightmare or hard on the first couple playthroughs.  It's going to be hard to leave Varic, Bull, Sara, or Casandra at the keep for me, so somebody has to draw the short straw.  Then there's the question of if I end up liking other companions I didn't have initial interest in.  Tough choices, which I why I think I'm going to have to get to everything I want through multiple plays.

 

PS- Anyone else a little...let's say uneasy, about being a necromancer as this leader of the inquisition?  On the one hand, it's probably going to be my favorite play style, but it does feel odd that nobody would have a problem running around and being lead by a necromancer.  The two previous games just ignored if you were a blood mage, but if you were a Warden, you only had one other Warden under you for the majority of the game (The Wardens also have a reputation for doing whatever is necessary to win against the blight).  The 2nd game, you're already an apostate, so it's not that far of a step.   

[EdwinLi]

Oh and almost forgot that there are other ways to make a Weapon and Shield Warrior DPS like such as the Vanguard stances.

 

Vanguard skills will provide boost for Warrior's damage making them perform more Damage.

 

the combination of Reaver and Vanguard will make any Warrior (either Weapon and Shield or Two-handed Weapon) into a DD. 

[Ashelsu]

Then you're the alley rather than the oop, and I don't actually like the abilities that trigger off stagger for rogues. I prefer brittle to abuse burst arrow with Varric. The only useful spell, IMO, that really triggered off stagger for a non-Hawke mage was chain lightning.

FoM was also good for stagger. Alas, Bethany...

Hm. Then sword&shield warrior capitalizing on disorient. Also good against mooks.

Nothing can beat assassin/duelist in damage on one target, of course.

But it's all DA2 talk.