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Bigger Badder Stronger than Ever...

 

However I was watching Reign Of Fire and at some point they revealed powerful truth behind their dragons, that there is likely one male fertilizing all the eggs, and I got to wondering. "Well in Dragon Age we know it's the females that generally become the big flying terrors that scare the bejeezus out of everyone right?" So does it work the same as in Reign of Fire but on a switch around? Are there more males of the DA universe than there are females, and every female is specially coveted? 

 

Then I started thinking how could modern day man lose to Dragons when in universes like DA they are nearly being wiped out? Sure a scenario like above came to mind but im curious what everyone else thinks is the reason why Dragons in either universe seem to some how survive or thrive against us?

 

Can someone fill me in on the nature of Flemeth's daughters and Dragons, and how they are connected? if they are connected.



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Well, just to state the obvious, the two universes are completely different.

 

In Reign of fire (a film i happen to adore by the way) man loses to the dragons in a pretty unclear fashion in general . Most likely it's the suprise. In the universe of that movie, it's always been clear to me that the way the dragons won was by sheer numbers. Obviously one dragon can be killed, as is shown, but enough of them could overrun civilization.

 

Which brings me to the contrast with Dragon Age, where dragons have always been a part of the world, and there is such a culture around hunting them that the royal family of quite a large nation is a famliy of dragon hunters, and that people ritualistically bathe in/drink their blood to become reavers. There probably exist a thousand books in the DA universe on a dragon's anatomy, where it's weak points lie, it's habits and so forth.

 

As for the reason why dragons are powerful, i think it's quite simple. They are very large, intimidating creatures, and in my experience with most media they are often just as intelligent or more intelligent than humans. Really though, i think dragons in DA are just imposingly large beasts. Another thing is that we haven't ever fought a dragon near a city or even really a particulary civilized area. Against an army with siege weaponry/ballistae a dragon can do a lot of damage to be sure, but there's a good chance it dies too. DA takes a lot of influences from the ASoIaF series, in which dragons are what i just described i think they are in DA too: large beasts that can be tamed and can bring massive destruction, but CAN very much be taken down by a good ballista (or multiple swords) to the face.



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Yes there are more males(drakes) then females and they each to my understanding fight each other for the right to mate

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http://dragonage.wikia.com/wiki/Drake



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Kieran G.

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High Dragons are all Female. Drakes are all male. Drakes seek out Dragons lairs so they can mate.



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How did the Old Gods work before the Blights, I wonder... If Dumat and Urthmiel are both male... Hmmmmmmm...



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How did the Old Gods work before the Blights, I wonder... If Dumat and Urthmiel are both male... Hmmmmmmm...

 

The Tevinters believed they are male, but it's not as if anyone ever checked to see if there was a big old god dragon **** around when they were desperately trying to end a blight. 

So the jury's still out on what exactly the OGs are, and whether they are just a special kind of dragon ghoul or whether they're something else entirely, e.g. a dragon abomination that's been turned into a ghoul. 



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Yeah, the males are the drakes. Don't the codex say that the big  dragons will generally have a harem of drakes around, and their young?

 

At the very least we run into 3 drakes near the big high dragon in origins.



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Bigger Badder Stronger than Ever...

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Can someone fill me in on the nature of Flemeth's daughters and Dragons, and how they are connected? if they are connected.

 

Warning- Spoilers for Dragon Age: The Silent Grove, Those Who Speak, and Until We Sleep.

 

Flemeth's daughter Yavana was a Witch of the Wild in Antiva. In Dragon Age: The Silent Grove, Alistair encounters her within the Tellari Swamps after being attacked by a Great Dragon that she named The Queen of Dragons. Eventually they end up in the Silent Grove which is a structure built after the fall of the Tevinter Imperium as a safe haven for dragons after they were nearly hunted to extinction. Here we find out that the promise Maric made to Flemeth in Dragon Age: The Stolen Throne was to come to The Silent Grove after his children were grown in order to use the power that's within his blood. As further clarified in Until We Sleep, Calenhad the Great drank the blood of a dying great dragon following the advise of an unknown witch (most likely Flemeth) effectively becoming a reaver and leading to his many victories in battle. This altered the blood line of the Theirins instilling the power to awaken Great Dragons within their lineage.

 

Within the Silent Grove are many sleeping dragons in hibernation, some of which who have died in their long slumber. Yavana had previously awoke many of these dragons which led to the their reappearance late in the Blessed Age and the naming of the current age, the Dragon Age. However, she does not have to power to awaken Great Dragons, only High Dragons and lower. When Maric was brought their she used him to awaken her Great Dragon, The Queen of Dragons, and attempted to convince Alistair to awaken the last Great Dragon when he arrived much later in pursuit of his father. This did not go so well as Alistair answered by stabbing her through the stomach and leaving her for dead (although I'm not convinced she is).

 

Aside from these revelations found in the comics we don't know much else concerning Flemeth's relations to dragons aside from being able to shapeshift in to one. She did, however, clearly know about her daughter and most likely placed her there herself in order to awaken the dragons for some unknown plan.

 

Side notes: Yavana referred to the Great Dragon blood within Alistair as "the old blood."  She also mentioned that dragons ruled the land before the fade existed and before "the mysteries were forgotten," and that dragon blood is the blood of the world.

 

Second side note:  Quote from Sten, "The Old Gods were like unto dragons, as the first human kings were like unto ordinary men. So it is written in the Tome of Koslun." Dragon Age Library Edition Volume 1 pg. 113


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Warning: Spoilers for Dragon Age: The Silent Grove and Those Who Speak.

Flemeth's daughter Yavana was a Witch of the Wild in Antiva. In Dragon Age: The Silent Grove Alistair encounters her within the Tellari Swamps after being attacked by a Great Dragon that she named The Queen of Dragons. Eventually they end up in the Silent Grove which is a structure built after the fall of Tevinter as a safe haven for dragons after they were nearly hunted to extinction. Here we find out that the promise Maric made to Flemeth in Dragon Age: The Stolen Throne was to come to The Silent Grove after his children were grown in order to use the power that's within his blood. As further clarified in Those Who Speak, Calenhad the Great drank the blood of a dying great dragon following the advise of an unknown witch (most likely Flemeth) effectively becoming a reaver and leading to his many victories in battle. This altered the blood line of the Theirins instilling the power to awaken Great Dragons within their lineage.

Within the Silent Grove are many sleeping dragons in hibernation, some of which who have died in their long slumber. Yavana had previously awoke many of these dragons which led to the their reappearance late in the Blessed Age and the naming of the current age, the Dragon Age. However, she does not have to power to awaken Great Dragons, only High Dragons and lower. When Maric was brought their she used him to wake up her Great Dragon, and attempted to convince Alistair to do the same when he arrived much later in pursuit of his father. This did not go so well as Alistair answered by stabbing her through the stomach and leaving her for dead (although I'm not convinced she is).

Aside from these revelations found in the comics we don't know much else concerning Flemeth's relations to dragons aside from being able to shapeshift in to one. She did, however, clearly know about her daughter and most likely placed her there herself in order to safe guard the dragons for some unknown plan.

Side notes: Yavana referred to the Great Dragon blood within Alistair as "the old blood." She also mentioned that dragons ruled the land before the fade existed and before "the mysteries were forgotten," and that dragon blood is the blood of the world.

Second side note: Quote from Sten "The Old Gods were like unto dragons, as the first human kings were like unto ordinary men. So it is written in the Tome of Koslun."


The old gods may be great dragons. In fact, seeing as they sleep underground and are some form of magical being, I'd bet the farm that's the most likely situation.
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If the Old Gods were smart, they'd take the form of something ridiculously small, like a mosquito. Sure, it can be easily killed, but you have to find it first. Just hang around in the rafters of some hut while it controls the darkspawn horde through tainted radio.



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i think the comparison to large beasts is correct, we dont find dragons close to settlements (kirkwall being the only exception)....  they are like any other wild animal, they shy away from human contact as much as possible.... as long as they have food to eat, a place to sleep and mate, they really wont leave their areas