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[MisterJB]

They'll hold it as definitive evidence that the words of Andraste apply to all races and that the Chantry truly has a place for everyone and that is why everyone should convert.

Andrastianism is an expansionist religion, not an ethnocentrist one.

[TheKomandorShepard]

I understand peoples problem with the Chantry and Maker but why do people have a problem with a woman who freed thousands of slaves freed hundreds of miles of land. laid the seeds for 3 great nations. gave the Elves a place to call home. And wanted to unite the world in peace.

 

How can you dislike her for people who are unrelated to her hundreds of years after she is dead and misusing her words as reason to call Exalted marches and sometimes forcibly convert.

 

Am i to blame if my Great, Great, Great, Great descendant misuses my words so he can kill his neighbor?  

 

I'm sorry i just don't see why some people get such a vile feeling when being the Herald of a great woman. and i don't mean because of her religion. but plainly because she was a great person in history.

 

this isn't directed at anyone in particular i just have seen many post in many threads saying they completely hate the Herald of Andraste title.

First i don't trust that if something is painted pretty in da and is unknown it isn't in case. 

 

Second you aren't herald of andraste as she is dead you don't give her power boost you give chantry power boost spreading their religion as truth andraste now is nothing more than chantry figure and symbol what she was isn't rly important now.

 

So in fact painting as herald of andraste you do chantry favor great one and many peoples don't want help chantry. 

[Medhia_Nox]

Is there confirmation that you can literally change the story by requesting people no longer call you the Herald?

That would be pretty awesome if there's really two totally different playthroughs like that. 

 

Arguably - not much would have to change in world - just a few allegiances, of course Herald or Inquisitor as your name, etc.  But it's really cool from an RP perspective.

[Chari]

My main male talvashoth rogue will embrace the title since he's already andrastianian 

Heck, I won't have a human inquisitor and all of my inqs will be fine with this title regardless of their religious beliefs. Heck, even my pro-dalish elf mage will be fine ith it since though he dislikes humans generally, he respects Andraste for all the good things she has done

[MisterJB]

Seriously, you holding up an Andrastian qunari would be a major win for the Chantry.

 

I'm more curious about the dwarves, According to Chantry Lore, they come from the Stone, not the Maker.

[Xilizhra]

Seriously, you holding up an Andrastian qunari would be a major win for the Chantry.

 

I'm more curious about the dwarves, According to Chantry Lore, they come from the Stone, not the Maker.

Assuming they're actually Andrastian or possess any allegiance to the Chantry, neither of which being the Herald necessarily implies.

[TheKomandorShepard]

Assuming they're actually Andrastian or possess any allegiance to the Chantry, neither of which being the Herald necessarily implies.

Eee you think that being seen as herald of andraste that is chantry religious figure won't them any good rly you don't need to worry if you will be seen as herald of andraste and you weren't supporting their religion chantry will make sure you are historically seen as one as they are fond changing truth for own benefit.   

[AlexiaRevan]

It is, yes. I believe it was said that we could stop the whole "Herald of Andraste" stuff pretty early on.

well Thanx for that . My Qunari Lady Mage...will make a hefty sum of money out of it !  If I'm to be annoyed and being called Herald...I be the The Herald Tax Payer ! Pay UP! 

[Sifr]

Let's play a Qunari Necromancer who fully employs this title

'It is I, your Herald. Dig up your graveyards that I might choose the finest corpses for my cause.'

 

Wait... don't most people in Thedas burn their dead to stop just that sort of thing happening, except for Nevarra?

 

Inquisitor: Gentleman, we're packing up shop and heading to Nevarra!

Everyone: What? Why?

Inquisitor: I have minions to acquire... summon Agents Burke and Hare, they'll be busy!

 

Yep, a Qunari Necromancer is going to be a very fun playthrough indeed.,,

[animedreamer]

My Dwarven Inquisitors would be terrible people, Whenever he or she wants their way, they'd hold up the glowing hand and put their other hand to their ear, "Wait hold on, im hearing something.. it's the voice of Andraste,.... she's telling me to say, DO WHAT I SAY!"

[Dusksworn]

Welp.

 

Whatever character I end up making, they're probably going to embrace the title in a state of confusion, until it becomes something of an obsession to them. That's probably going to be the main guide to their behavior. The "Chosen One" belief, and the desire to live up to its implications and not squander it on petty or selfish actions.

[taviastrife]

yes, but the people of thedas will still call you the herald.  Even if you dont embrace it, they will call you that.  This has really upset a lot of people for some reason, but hey i can call anyone i want by whatever title i want, and so can the people of thedas, even if it makes you want to murder them

I can picture the higher-ups of each faction and nation being understanding and no longer calling you the Herald, especially if you make it quite clear from the get-go that you are not.  However, the average person only hearing rumors and like would of course still call you "Herald."  I just hope that you'll get the opportunity to correct some of them, if that's the case. 

[SomeoneStoleMyName]

Let's play a Qunari Necromancer who fully employs this title

'It is I, your Herald. Dig up your graveyards that I might choose the finest corpses for my cause.'

Haha

Huge muscular Qunari in a chantry dress raising the dead claiming to be the Herald of Andraste, the one seeing this must think the world has gone insane.

[taviastrife]

Haha

Huge muscular Qunari in a chantry dress raising the dead claiming to be the Herald of Andraste, the one seeing this must think the world has gone insane.

Well, it kinda has with demons pouring from the sky.  

[Apo]

Unless i'm playing a human character, there's no reason for an elf, a dwarf or a qunari to embrace this title and I really hope we can turn this down.
 

I understand peoples problem with the Chantry and Maker but why do people have a problem with a woman who freed thousands of slaves freed hundreds of miles of land. laid the seeds for 3 great nations. gave the Elves a place to call home. And wanted to unite the world in peace.

 

How can you dislike her for people who are unrelated to her hundreds of years after she is dead and misusing her words as reason to call Exalted marches and sometimes forcibly convert.

 

Am i to blame if my Great, Great, Great, Great descendant misuses my words so he can kill his neighbor?  

 

I'm sorry i just don't see why some people get such a vile feeling when being the Herald of a great woman. and i don't mean because of her religion. but plainly because she was a great person in history.

 

this isn't directed at anyone in particular i just have seen many post in many threads saying they completely hate the Herald of Andraste title.

 

It's not the person that I dislike but the symbolims.

And to be honest, we don't really know how was Andraste as a person aside from what we hear here and there and most of the source are chantry scholars who depict her in the chantry way.

[Killdren88]

My Dalish Elf mage will embrace the title and the belief in the maker.

Considering in my headcanon he always found Dalish culture stupid anyway, the choice to embrace a title bearing the name of a woman who performed miracles, gave birth to nations, freed slaves and nearly brought evil empire to its knees...well, it won't be a difficult decision.

He will of course offer his former people the chance to denounce their backward and moronic lifestyle, but if they resist and the opportunity arises to destroy them it will be taken.

...

And yes, I acknowledge my almost visceral hatred for a fantasy elven race is probably going overboard.

 

Eh not a big deal. People project their hatred for real life religion on to games all the time.

[Jarvis_23]

I'm going to a Qunari my first playthtough and then human just to compare the diferent reactions.

[Insaner Robot]

Realistically( heh, in a fantasy setting). It should be seen as quite a victory for the chantry and validation of the chant itself. What with that whole 'all the corners of the world' thing.

 

Individuals may have a problem, but institutions as a whole within Andrastian lands should be pleased.

[viperidae]

When i heard this i immediately made my plan for a second playthrough (sorry, first playthrough has been set). Elven awkward girl who is too awkward to refuse a title that seems very prestigous, and feels obligated to take it.

[Merela]

I'm planning to play an Andrastrian Dwarf, so being the Herald of Andraste will be a big deal for him. Some recognition at last!

[taviastrife]

Being a human mage in my first playthrough, I'm hoping you can just be confused about the whole incident.  In other words, not really accepting the title fully but merely taking a "I don't know what to believe" type of attitude.  So, she wouldn't necessarily mind people calling her the Herald but wouldn't acknowledge it all that much either.

[10K]

My Dalish archer will deny this claim before it spreads like wild fire. He is and will always be a follower of The Elven Pantheon.

[Tielis]

I hope that it's not going to be a one shot are-you-for-or-against-the-Chantry deal.   I would like my character to go through some evolution and possibly change his/her mind during the course of the game.

[Mihura]

I just hope we can be extremely rude to anyone who uses that tittle, especially when I am RPing a character that hates it.

[Icy Magebane]

I will be playing as a Dalish mage, but I don't see much reason for him to try to abuse the title... he's not from the human lands so the Circle and Andraste don't mean much to him... he's mainly just going to focus on staying alive and won't have an agenda to push... Overall, I don't think it will have much of an impact on my first character.  He certainly won't be converting to worship of the Maker without a good reason... humans calling him "Herald" isn't going to cut it.