In tac cam the former. In "action" mode, the latter.
I am very much hoping this is a misunderstanding and it is in fact the former in all scenarios, but Barrett's comment does indicate you are correct. I am just hoping for one final confirmation from a dev on this.
Barrett: thanks for all the information, even if not all of it makes me happy 
I disagree (his post was clear, at least regarding the lack of auto-attack), but I understand not wanting to believe it.And I'm still going by what Tyler Lee said back in August, that the pc controls will work "as we'd expect them to" and "like previous games". That's all. I have no lack of respect for Barrett or his intentions. I just think that trying to combine(or list) both the console and pc controls might have gotten him mixed up.
Controlled characters do not run AI on any platform (they will continue actions, but initiating new actions requires player input).If you don't ever press the attack key in DAO or DA2 the character you are controlling will attack? With no input required from the player? You sure that's not a mod?
Yes you are quite right, apologies.You have that backwards koorah
In any event, I was being rude, and I apologize for that. I think my frustration comes because I think it's a stupid decision (and counter to things they've told us in the past), and I think it's wasted effort to try to argue that it may not actually be true (unlike you, I don't have any question regarding Barrett's explanation).
Well, then let's just say I hope that you are wrong about his explanation. Because I just can't see Laidlaw not commenting on this if true in the pc stream.
It's the last step (just like in Origins).Only other question: At what point after zooming out does it become "tac cam"? All the way to the top or any where but in close this person?
Only other question: At what point after zooming out does it become "tac cam"? All the way to the top or any where but in close this person?
0:20 of this video.
My 2 cents: almost all multi-platform titles nowadays are primarily designed with consoles in mind. We're talking about the PC being just 20% of the mix after all. And I'm not even speaking about sales figures, which you can be sure is even considerably less. The PC may get some extras here and there sometimes but that's all there is, which I think is not much but you make of it what you will. 
Because of the way attacking works now in the PC version I'm going to stay in tac-cam all the time in combat, even when not actually using tactics. Holding "R" all the time is just plain stupid! 
I'm also going to use it for exploration when I want to give my fingers a rest from constantly "WASD-ing" and holding the right mouse button. 
So the 4 buttons to the right of the 3 potion icons are: Attack My Target, Hold Position, Clear Commands, and Disengage
And as they are glossing over them, you hear Mike say, "focus fire", and Cameron say, "everyone disengage", that they are new commands from previous games.
So that is your Select All buttons reconfigured. Attack all is the Attack My Target, Hold All is Hold Position, and the last 2 seem like they are individ. commands.
No, they are global.So that is your Select All buttons reconfigured. Attack all is the Attack My Target, Hold All is Hold Position, and the last 2 seem like they are individ. commands.
I'm replaying DA2 right now, and I honestly had no idea the r function existed. Just tried it. It's extremely counter intuitive to me.
No, they are global.
If you want to disengage, all you have to do is run away; you need to order the party if you want them to follow you.
Say you are playing a melee character. You come upon a single enemy you want to fight 1 v 1. What button tells your party to stay put and not engage? Hold, correct?
Hold will still make your ranged to attack and use tactics. Best way to do it is add a first tactic that says "Self:Any -> Wait"
Hold.Say you are playing a melee character. You come upon a single enemy you want to fight 1 v 1. What button tells your party to stay put and not engage? Hold, correct?
Hold will still make your ranged to attack and use tactics. Best way to do it is add a first tactic that says "Self:Any -> Wait"
Yea, I know that's how the previous games did it. Trying to figure out the new group commands functions. I think yes, Hold position might have all party members stop and stay. But will archers still attack, like your example, or is Disengage the group command that says stay, and don't attack?
Maybe a disable tactics toggle.
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I'd like a disable tactics toggle as well. Sometimes you need to stop using abilities and wait for the right moment, like for example with the Rock Wraith in DA2. You want to pop haste and use the heavy hitters after it's broken down. Only way to do this is by adding the Wait tactic.
YupI need some clarification. If I keep the game in tactical mode, I can still auto attack just as I've always done, correct? And I can keep the game in tactical mode?
You can keep playing the whole combat in TC, and I think most of the game.Some clarifications hopefully to the rescue!
When directly controlling a character (ie not in tactical cam mode):
-Hold controller trigger to continuously "auto"-attack, tap to do a single attack (or repeatedly tap, which does the same thing as hold)
-Hold 'R' (rebindable) or hold left click to continuously "auto"-attack, tap to do a single attack (or repeatedly tap, which does the same thing as hold)
Not pressing/holding attack button/key when directly controlling a character will cause them not to attack.
In tactical cam mode you're basically assigning orders, so all party members will autoattack while in tac-cam. The camera can be panned and tilted all around in tac-cam mode, it's not iso/top-down locked.
Meh I was constantly tapping R in DA2 anyway. I'll deal.
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On the console version you always had to control one of the characters, so tactics were disabled for whoever you controlled and player input was required for any movement, abilities or attacks. Though once you pressed attack on an enemy your character would auto attack after until it was dead or you selected a new target
It was the same for the PC. There was never an option in the base game for the tactics to control the character without your input. We had to use a mod for that.
It was the same for the PC. There was never an option in the base game for the tactics to control the character without your input. We had to use a mod for that.
Yep. I remember people asking for it and others saying they wanted the game to play itself like in FF12. God that was a stupid argument.
Anyway
We're not even getting the attack once and then your character keeps attacking auto attack?
Nope.We're not even getting the attack once and then your character keeps attacking auto attack?
Without the TC, no.Yep. I remember people asking for it and others saying they wanted the game to play itself like in FF12. God that was a stupid argument.
Anyway
We're not even getting the attack once and then your character keeps attacking auto attack?
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