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[RussianSpy27]

I am a bit concerned about the length of the main game compared with a 1000 side quests that are around 200 hours.

It certainly took me more than 40 hours to beat Origins' main game and DA3 is supposed to be so much bigger.

Will the 200 hours be primarily related to the main game akin to how ME3 quests are connected ? Will there be many side-missions?

As much as I love the idea of exploring the beautiful world of Theidas, if the main game is roughly 10 times shorter than side missions, I am not sure how many fans will be so eager to finish them all once the main game is concluded. For example, I loved exploring in Assassin's Creed 2 but after the main mission was done, I wasn't as eager to roam around more dungeons.

Thanks

[Gtdef]

They said that the main quest line is about 50 hours. This can mean anything, like the sum of the quests take approximately 50 hours, or you have to farm the inquisition with sidequests to unlock the main quests, or they had a monkey playing the game and it took forever. Can't tell for sure.  

[Frocharocha]

They said that the main quest line is about 50 hours. This can mean anything, like the sum of the quests take approximately 50 hours, or you have to farm the inquisition with sidequests to unlock the main quests, or they had a monkey playing the game and it took forever. Can't tell for sure.

Well, the level cap would have either to be incredible huge or take forever to reach. So yeah, for me it would be a very hard quest to complete all the 200 hours to get the best "Paragon" like possibilities.

[EnduinRaylene]

That wasn't a reference to DAI, but that rather the stories BioWare tends to tell usually take 20-40 hours to tell that story. 

 

 

 

A really vast, epic BioWare story. That's what we do, and it normally takes 20 to 40 hours anyway to tell the story we want to tell.

 

So as you can see that's about BioWare games in general not specifically about DAI's actual story length. Like Gtdef said, every other time they've talked about game length they said just the story takes like 50 hours. 

[LEXX]

I have a feeling DAO game play with side missions is larger than DAI.  They should just remake DAO open world.

[Jester]

That wasn't a reference to DAI, but that rather the stories BioWare tends to tell usually take 20-40 hours to tell that story. 

 

 

So as you can see that's about BioWare games in general not specifically about DAI's actual story length. Like Gtdef said, every other time they've talked about game length they said just the story takes like 50 hours. 

Well, it seems likely. 

A large, semi-open world focused on a story - main quest could take 50 hours. The Witcher 3 also advertises main storyline to be 50 hours long.

 

And from where did you take those 200 hours? From what I know, a completionist was supposed to take 150. 

 

I have a feeling DAO game play with side missions is larger than DAI.  They should just remake DAO open world.

 

With single areas larger than entire Origins map, you think that it'll be shorter?

Highly unlikely. Especially because that's have to mean, that they deliberately lied to thier fans about the length of the game - because Origins with all sidequests is about 50-60 hours. 

[nialler]

I have a feeling DAO game play with side missions is larger than DAI.  They should just remake DAO open world.

Hahaha I have no idea how you could come to that conclusion...

[EmperorKarino]

I am a bit concerned about the length of the main game compared with a 1000 side quests that are around 200 hours.

It certainly took me more than 40 hours to beat Origins' main game and DA3 is supposed to be so much bigger.

Will the 200 hours be primarily related to the main game akin to how ME3 quests are connected ? Will there be many side-missions?

As much as I love the idea of exploring the beautiful world of Theidas, if the main game is roughly 10 times shorter than side missions, I am not sure how many fans will be so eager to finish them all once the main game is concluded. For example, I loved exploring in Assassin's Creed 2 but after the main mission was done, I wasn't as eager to roam around more dungeons.

Thanks

 

it took me 50+ hours to beat origins (just origins, not including awakening, golems of amgarrack, etc) it took me 60+ hours to beat 2 (thats including dlc) so their track record seems to be speaking for itself, plus with how massive inquisition is, i'm sure it will at least be 70 hours if not more.

[Chiramu]

Running around the areas should take a lot of time. 

[LEXX]

Hahaha I have no idea how you could come to that conclusion...

Ever heard of Skyrim?  You can run around for 50 hrs without doing a mission.

[Durhon]

Ever heard of Skyrim?  You can run around for 50 hrs without doing a mission.

 

But they said at E3 doing story alone is roughly 50 hours.

 

https://www.youtube....YCYGnUWww#t=639

[Gtdef]

But they said at E3 doing story alone is roughly 50 hours.

 

We assume that they use quicktravel and played the combat on godmode like they did at E3. It doesn't have to be the case though. 50 hours for an open world game is open to interpretation.  

[Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien]

I've always found the "How long does it take to complete the game?" question when it comes to RPGs like which Bioware makes to be a bit silly purely because it is always going to be a case of your mileage varying to what others do.

 

I would also wager any money that within the first week of release there will be someone whom posts that they completed it in far less time than what Bioware has stated and no doubt be complaining about it

 

Ever heard of Skyrim?  You can run around for 50 hrs without doing a mission.

 

Erm, considering what we've seen so far, I imagine the same could be said of DAI what with resource gathering, side missions. Beating the crap out of the other factions, monsters and wildlife... and as has already been pointed out to you, one of the areas than most of the origins maps put together so, your original comment is supremely flawed

[LEXX]

I've always found the "How long does it take to complete the game?" question when it comes to RPGs like which Bioware makes to be a bit silly purely because it is always going to be a case of your mileage varying to what others do.

 

I would also wager any money that within the first week of release there will be someone whom posts that they completed it in far less time than what Bioware has stated and no doubt be complaining about it

 

 

Erm, considering what we've seen so far, I imagine the same could be said of DAI what with resource gathering, side missions. Beating the crap out of the other factions, monsters and wildlife... and as has already been pointed out to you, one of the areas than most of the origins maps put together so, your original comment is supremely flawed

I'm pretty sure DAO if open world will have a longer game play in hours than DAI.  There's nothing "flawed" about my comment.

[Mornmagor]

I'm pretty sure DAO if open world will have a longer game play in hours than DAI.  There's nothing "flawed" about my comment.

 

1) DA:O was never designed as open world. So we have no idea how big would it be like that.

 

2) We don't actually know for sure how long DA:I is.

 

3) Speculation and words like "sure", can sound a bit of an oxymoron, as you can imagine.

[theflyingzamboni]

With single areas larger than entire Origins map, you think that it'll be shorter?

Highly unlikely. Especially because that's have to mean, that they deliberately lied to thier fans about the length of the game - because Origins with all sidequests is about 50-60 hours. 

 

People apparently play these games a lot faster than me. Do I just do exceptional amounts of faffing about? Even my second playthrough took a couple dozen more hours than that maximum...

I'll probably end up closer to the 200 hour mark than the 150, I suspect.

[LEXX]

1) DA:O was never designed as open world. So we have no idea how big would it be like that.

 

2) We don't actually know for sure how long DA:I is.

 

3) Speculation and words like "sure", can sound a bit of an oxymoron, as you can imagine.

LOL.  DAO already is around 50hrs without any side missions and it's not even open world.  DAI is said to be 50hrs if you just want to finish the game.  So do your math.  Another thing is that DAI is more difficult so that also factor in.

[hexaligned]

Ever heard of Skyrim?  You can run around for 50 hrs without doing a mission.

I don't see your point.  The majority of DA:O's game play was killing trash mobs, gaining xp, and looting things.  The Majority of  DA:I's game play is going to be killing trash mobs, gaining xp, and looting things.  In typical Bioware fashion (and in contrast to Skyrim) both games  offer "here's a compelling game world relevant reason to go out and kill trash mobs, gain xp, and loot things".

 

In terms of area (game world) and quest design, DAI looks more similar to the old BG games.  Every map is going to have a few self contained smallerish quest chains, along with your overarching main story quest chain, as well as just random "yo fucker, go over there and kill that group of Kobolds" type quests.  People just like comparing things to Skyrim I guess, Bioware has in fact done games before that are far less linear than DAO was though.

[Hyperion]

LOL.  DAO already is around 50hrs without any side missions and it's not even open world.  DAI is said to be 50hrs if you just want to finish the game.  So do your math.  Another thing is that DAI is more difficult so that also factor in.

Nobody can "do math" with a bunch of numbers that are half estimation, half pure speculation. Even if the main quests of Origins and DA:I are roughly the same length (which isn't a bad thing IMO, 50 hours is a pretty decent amount of time to tell a well written story without dragging things out), you have absolutely no Idea how many sidequests there will be, how much travel time will factor in, or any of that. At least the Dev estimate of 150-200 hours has a fair bit of evidence behind it, you're just making totally baseless assumptions.

[LEXX]

I don't see your point.  The majority of DA:O's game play was killing trash mobs, gaining xp, and looting things.  The Majority of  DA:I's game play is going to be killing trash mobs, gaining xp, and looting things.  In typical Bioware fashion (and in contrast to Skyrim) both games  offer "here's a compelling game world relevant reason to go out and kill trash mobs, gain xp, and loot things".

 

In terms of area (game world) and quest design, DAI looks more similar to the old BG games.  Every map is going to have a few self contained smallerish quest chains, along with your overarching main story quest chain, as well as just random "yo fucker, go over there and kill that group of Kobolds" type quests.  People just like comparing things to Skyrim I guess, Bioware has in fact done games before that are far less linear than DAO was though.

You don't see my point?  It's pretty obvious.  I see DAO have a much larger story scale that cover so many area with missions and quests. In DAO you step into that map your mission starts where in DAI you go roaming around looking for your missions.  DAI is a bit more linear and straight forward.

[Revan Reborn]

The story taking "50 hours" is just a phrase a lot of RPG developers have been using recently when referring to their next gen titles. CDPR said there was 50 hours of story and 50 hours of side missions in The Witcher 3. BioWare is saying there is 50 hours of story and potentially 150 hours of side missions. Truth be told, time will be dependent on difficulty, if you quick travel, use a mount, go on foot, if you kill, collect, and explore everything in the area, etc. If anyone has ever played an Elder Scrolls game, you know very well that time is very subjective when it comes to an open world RPG.

 

Now neither one of these games will compare to Skyrim in terms of content, largely because of mods, but they will both be massive. DAI (excluding SWTOR) is the largest RPG BioWare has ever done. With each new product they are raising the stakes and trying to outdo what they did previously. Especially with the nature of Frostbite 3 and the fact BioWare won't have to build custom engines for their games anymore, it means developing and adding content will be that much easier and faster. BioWare games will only continue to get larger and more vast, but again, time is relative to each and every person. All you need to know is it will be bigger than what you have experienced in Dragon Age before.

[blahblah]

It seems like the number may have been inflated so ill wait till I play it for myself. DAO only took me around 20 hours to beat.

[Hyperion]

You don't see my point?  It's pretty obvious.  I see DAO have a much larger story scale that cover so many area with missions and quests. In DAO you step into that map your mission starts where in DAI you go roaming around looking for your missions.  DAI is a bit more linear and straight forward.

1) DA:I also covers numerous VERY LARGE maps, each one of which is larger than all of origins. it's not like there's just one big area, there are several areas spanning across two continents, and a variety of different biomes and climates. I'm not sure how you can look at all that information that say that DA:O had a much larger story scale than DA:I will.

 

2) Wait, so the game in which you are thrown into the main mission on entering an area is somehow less linear than the one in which you are given the freedom to seek it out? How on earth did you reach that conclusion?

[LEXX]

Nobody can "do math" with a bunch of numbers that are half estimation, half pure speculation. Even if the main quests of Origins and DA:I are roughly the same length (which isn't a bad thing IMO, 50 hours is a pretty decent amount of time to tell a well written story without dragging things out), you have absolutely no Idea how many sidequests there will be, how much travel time will factor in, or any of that. At least the Dev estimate of 150-200 hours has a fair bit of evidence behind it, you're just making totally baseless assumptions.

Inflated numbers.

[The Night Haunter]

DAI will be longer than DAO. DAO semi-completionist 1st play through took me about 70-80hrs. Judging by the tweets DAI will take me about 140+ first time. Is that a bad thing? Not in my opinion, but if you don't have time to invest in it then it could take weeks to complete that 100 hour journey. I think it is well worth it, and I will probably be playing DAI for the next 4 months going through various characters, then I'll break until the xpac comes out hopefully mid 2016. (Xpac is a pure guess, but given DAO had one and DA2 was planned to have one it seems fairly likely).

 

Like almost everything worth discussing this is 100% subjective and in the end it must be you who decides what is good and what isn't.