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The effect of the taint is two-fold.

1) To spread (like a virus)

2) Main purpose is to transfer the souls of the "tainted dead" directly to Elder God

When someone dies tainted or gets tainted the soul - instead of reaching the fade normally - is transferred to the Elder one.

 

Sorry Im just guessing :P



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I'm sure this is all Hawke's fault somehow.

 

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Almost certain of it.


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I reckon this has to do with whatever Anders did at the end of DA:2. Maybe he (or possibly Justice) called forth something which has only now decided to f*** s*** up. Or maybe the Elder One is Justice? After all, he is a spirit and from what I can remember, a very old one, with the magic binding him to Anders also being very old. Maybe he got pissed off with everyone in Thedas and now wants to eradicate everyone that has wronged someone else.



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Unseasonal low pressure.

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Oh hells to the yes! Speculation! Rumor! Yarn spinning! Tall tale telling!... epic epicness at it's best!

 

     Given that the series has already established that the Veil has very "weak" spots (usually incurred when a terrible or powerful magical event takes place) since Dragon Age: Origins (Remember Warden's Keep:  Sophia's speech!), it is very possible that the events of the last decade (in the Calendar of Thedas, it has been a total of 10 full years leading up to these events starting for 9:30 Dragon to 9:40 dragon) have simply weakened the veil to such a degree, that it simply does not protect one realm from the other when applying even a minimal amount of effort from either realm to tear it asunder. Given the host of major magical events such as:

- The considerable amount of magic that Flemeth must have expended just to maintain the secret of their hut in the Wilds (which, of coarse, actually leads way back farther than just 9:30 Dragon)

- The Mass possessions of the Circle of Magi at Lake Calenhad

- (potentially if actually done) The killing of the high dragon at the Urn of Sacred Ashes temple

- The killing of the Old god Urthemiel ending the 5th blight

-  (potentially) meddling incurred by the Architect

- The attempted mass possession of Templars in Kirkwall

- Anders magical destruction of the Chantry in Kirkwall

- (potentially) the amount of magic Orsino used to become the abomination.

(note: and certainly this is far from an all inclusive list! I am sure more epic dragon age geeklords could include other potentially powerful events I missed!)

 

So, just from this speculator point of view, clearly the veil has been, figuratively, nearly ripped to shreds. So you take a powerful magic event (similar to Anders destructive spell) at such a magical nexus point like the Temple of the Urn and it points to subjecting the veil to the business end of a serious ass whoppin'! Thus, creating all the little rifts as minimal force from either our realm or the Fade would be needed to punch through!

 

Morrigan did say "Change is coming to world".. She never said it was progress!


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I reckon this has to do with whatever Anders did at the end of DA:2. Maybe he (or possibly Justice) called forth something which has only now decided to f*** s*** up. Or maybe the Elder One is Justice? After all, he is a spirit and from what I can remember, a very old one, with the magic binding him to Anders also being very old. Maybe he got pissed off with everyone in Thedas and now wants to eradicate everyone that has wronged someone else.

The problem with this is that this would make the elder one very one-dimensional and boring villain (Rawr! Destroy!)
Second thing is that they said the Elder one's main attribute was "Arrogance" so that doesent fit justice in any way :P



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Oh hells to the yes! Speculation! Rumor! Yarn spinning! Tall tale telling!... epic epicness at it's best!

 

     Given that the series has already established that the Veil has very "weak" spots (usually incurred when a terrible or powerful magical event takes place) since Dragon Age: Origins (Remember Warden's Keep:  Sophia's speech!), it is very possible that the events of the last decade (in the Calendar of Thedas, it has been a total of 10 full years leading up to these events starting for 9:30 Dragon to 9:40 dragon) have simply weakened the veil to such a degree, that it simply does not protect one realm from the other when applying even a minimal amount of effort from either realm to tear it asunder. Given the host of major magical events such as:

- The considerable amount of magic that Flemeth must have expended just to maintain the secret of their hut in the Wilds (which, of coarse, actually leads way back farther than just 9:30 Dragon)

- The Mass possessions of the Circle of Magi at Lake Calenhad

- (potentially if actually done) The killing of the high dragon at the Urn of Sacred Ashes temple

- The killing of the Old god Urthemiel ending the 5th blight

-  (potentially) meddling incurred by the Architect

- The attempted mass possession of Templars in Kirkwall

- Anders magical destruction of the Chantry in Kirkwall

- (potentially) the amount of magic Orsino used to become the abomination.

(note: and certainly this is far from an all inclusive list! I am sure more epic dragon age geeklords could include other potentially powerful events I missed!)

 

So, just from this speculator point of view, clearly the veil has been, figuratively, nearly ripped to shreds. So you take a powerful magic event (similar to Anders destructive spell) at such a magical nexus point like the Temple of the Urn and it points to subjecting the veil to the business end of a serious ass whoppin'! Thus, creating all the little rifts as minimal force from either our realm or the Fade would be needed to punch through!

 

Morrigan did say "Change is coming to world".. She never said it was progress!

If true this would also mean that an all out templar vs mage war would speed up the breach?


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@someonestolemyname

 

Well stated amigo! Well stated indeed!.. to answer that, lets look at:

 

- The inquisitor stating "The world is tearing itself apart... if they say I can stop this..."

- Cassandra stating "We call it The Breach.. It grows larger with each passing hour"

 

   These being just two examples to support that yes; this instigated war was a catalyst to provide exactly what was needed, and will hasten what Morrigan, again, alluded to about "Change is coming."

 

   and the epic nerdgasim continues! :bandit: :wizard:



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So, uh, for the avatar watchers here... is this starting to sound like Harmonic Convergance to anybody else?

 

For those who don't know, in the avatar universe there is a spirit world very like the fade, only spirit are very malleable instead of very rigid in this world. in any case, in a major event, portals were opened on the south and north poles, and spirits now live all over the world and humand can visit the spirit world by going to these places. 



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I wouldn't count the killing of the high dragon as a major magical event. Everything in DA Lore suggests that most dragons are not inherently highly magical like they would be in say D&D.   They are more natural creatures for the most part.   Even if it is in an event you could consider technically veil-weak.



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It's the lingering resentment of the nugs murdered during the Battle of the Squealing Plains spilling forth after the calming forbidden ritual failed. Obvious, really.


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Huh, while looking at this thread I suddenly had an idea. What if Morrigan tries to jump Blackwalls bones if she didn't get the Warden to do the ritual?

 

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I think its the elder one or the elder one has an ancient object that lets him open up fade rifts. If you guys watch the Dragon Age series Redemption the you see and object with that very power.



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I honestly think this has to do with the landsmeet back in origins. You get to decide the fereldin political landscape. I'm pretty sure Noone was too happy about that. Possibly a conspiracy within a number if organization would love to devastate everything your pic's has built up over the past 2 games.

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Sandal hints at it himself.



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Nah, OGB is wintering with the Warden in Rivain while mama straightens out things in the south.

 

I think Corypheus is either the Elder One or plays a role in bringing the Elder forth.



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Following the theory that the Breach was caused from thedas' side (the explosion at the meeting to end the templar mage-war). It would mean that the Elder one is a creature from the fade trying to "physically" invade Thedas like the magisters of Tevinter tried to cross from Thedas to the Fade.

 

He would need to bring his spiritual form to a physical world. I think that what was said in the new trailer (the hero of thedas) about "a new world" means that the Breach is possibly something that would make Thedas and the Fade to "mix". Furthermore, I think that is what Sandal meant by his prophecy that everybody will be "just how they were" meaning one with their spiritual form of the Fade and that "all of the magic would come back", the sky open wide and shadows (dreams?) would vanish....At least that's my take, how do you see it?



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Acute plot-radiation.



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Huh, while looking at this thread I suddenly had an idea. What if Morrigan tries to jump Blackwalls bones if she didn't get the Warden to do the ritual?

 

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Would be pointless.  While Blackwall is a Warden there's currently no Archdemon to slay thus granting her the results she wanted (OGB).  No point in Morrigan just going around banging Wardens to get pregnant, unless we get another Archdemon or even an OG in DAI somewhere, then maybe Morrigan might try again for an OGB (if the dark ritual wasn't done in your DAO), or she tries for another OGB so her first spawn can have a sibling.



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From Awakening (specifically the Black Marsh) we know beings of the Fade can force the Fade to interact with our world to some extent. I would assume we are dealing with this, but focused on areas where the veil is already thin. Meanwhile the Venatori and any other mortal servants of the Elder One are further weakening the veil in new, strategically significant  locations. This process may be accelerated through the use of red lyrium, standard magic, but definitely bloodshed and blood magic.

The Elder One is probably able to convince large numbers of spirits to work together to tear the veil enough that they can roam free, after which he no longer needs them to do anything other than sow chaos and make sealing rifts harder, something he doesn't need to direct them to do.


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From Awakening (specifically the Black Marsh) we know beings of the Fade can force the Fade to interact with our world to some extent. I would assume we are dealing with this, but focused on areas where the veil is already thin. Meanwhile the Venatori and any other mortal servants of the Elder One are further weakening the veil in new, strategically significant  locations. This process may be accelerated through the use of red lyrium, standard magic, but definitely bloodshed and blood magic.

The Elder One is probably able to convince large numbers of spirits to work together to tear the veil enough that they can roam free, after which he no longer needs them to do anything other than sow chaos and make sealing rifts harder, something he doesn't need to direct them to do.

 

Seems quite throrough and convincing. Wouldn't suprise me if most of this is accurate.