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I've recently been trying (and failing) to create my canon warden to have a good connection ingame and to not be irrelevant in Dragon age 2, but that's not why I'm here.

 

My quibble is with Elf Magi's family, There is absolutely no reference to it throughout both games (to my knowledge). It doesn't even have a wiki page :(. I was hoping to find atleast a small reference like a family in the kirkwall alienage perhaps a sibling, but alas I was disappointed.

 

I expect some people like the mystery, so I guess my question is how connected to the world do you like your warden to be. For example, to me, becoming King/Queen is pretty idyllic but a tad to far in having a place in Thedas. Thats why I always made my Human Noble Teryn of Gwaren..



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Mages do not have a family.

 

The Maker disavows any knowledge of such things.



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Personally, I like it that way. You can be creative and fill in the blanks yourself. Come up with backgrounds and motivations for why your character is the way Surana is. I've created no less than six distinctly different Suranas just by making different backgrounds for each (one a former alienage rat, one a former farm mouse, one who was part of the Dalish but poached by Templars, one whose mother was tracked down and slain by Templars right in front of her for trying to flee with her mage child, etc), and still counting.


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Personally, I like it that way. You can be creative and fill in the blanks yourself. Come up with backgrounds and motivations for why your character is the way Surana is. I've created no less than six distinctly different Suranas just by making different backgrounds for each (one a former alienage rat, one a former farm mouse, one who was part of the Dalish but poached by Templars, one whose mother was tracked down and slain by Templars right in front of her for trying to flee with her mage child, etc), and still counting.

 

Hmm, I suppose, I guess I've just never really been one for headcanon. I envy you for that.

 

Mages do not have a family.

 

The Maker disavows any knowledge of such things.

 

The Amells seem to be doing fine, well sort of, after Hawke came along.



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I think the Surana mage, while not having a cool background, still has a lot more flavor with specs and such. It's a lot cooler to spec Arcane Warrior and Keeper as an elf compared to human. At the same time, you're still different than Velanna and Merrill, both Dalish. A Circle mage elf is still somewhat unique among the different characters we encounter.



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I think the Surana mage, while not having a cool background, still has a lot more flavor with specs and such. It's a lot cooler to spec Arcane Warrior and Keeper as an elf compared to human. At the same time, you're still different than Velanna and Merrill, both Dalish. A Circle mage elf is still somewhat unique among the different characters we encounter.

 

True that.  :?

 

EDIT: In fact, on top of what I already said, I find it the most interesting to explore culturally and socially. As a mage elf, you get the double stigma of being Andrastian human society's two most degraded social groups. As someone in TV Tropes pointed out, you're separated from non-mage society by being raised in the Circle, you're separated from human society by being an elf, and you're separated from elven culture thanks to your human upbringing. (As the Circle is run mostly by Andrastian human mages and Templars.)

 

I like to explore how this affects various mage elves.



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Surana has the least information because he is somehow connected to Lavellan/DAI,more than other Wardens.
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Lack of family info does give players more freedom to make their own origin stories. Kind of  tired of playing the youngest member/child of a human noble family (DA:O,and DA:I). <_< Then again its just role playing. ^_^



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My Surana is my 'canon' warden and the one i will be using in Keep for Inquisition.  I know there is nothing specifically about them in the game but my Roleplay for her was she came into her powers very young (there are several lines in conversations with random mages in the tower, Jowan and Irving that allow you to do this in the Origin story).  In my head canon, she was taken from her family and brought to the Circle, but either they were too poor to come to the Tower (elven family traveling alone on the roads from Denerim to the Circle...not good), or too ashamed of having birthed a mage so they kind of just ignored her existence.  Since she has no memory of them, it leaves the roleplay completely open to be whatever you'd like it to.

 

I like Faerunner's solution, making her Surana's backstory whatever she wants, with several variations, but my Surana is always the same and  is pretty simple: She just doesn't know, and while I think it probably caused her a lot of sadness/pain growing up, something she had to come to terms with.  The Circle became her new family, Jowan (such as he is) became her brother/best friend, Irving a mentor and surrogate father.  That Jowan ultimately betrays that trust and friendship considering how close she felt to him, only adds to her story.


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My first and favourite cRPG was Morrowind, with a player character whose entire story consists of a racial background and waking up on a prison ship... I filled in the rest and gave her a history, a personality, and a purpose. So I'm fine with my wee Surana blank slate. But I also love my heart of gold Tabris and her wonderful family and her connection to the Alienage; my sullen and too-pragmatic Mahariel whose entire life is her clan and whose entire journey through the Blight is shaped by her losing them; and my Couslands, each of them different, because I made them so. And I adore my loopy and very grifter-y Amell, whose parents were illiterate farm folk from the Bannorn and as far as I'm concerned, not related (no way no how) to those people from the Marches who just happened to share her surname.

 

I do dislike being handed a character that leaves no room for me as a player to decide who that toon is... so for me, games like DAO or Morrowind or Baldur's Gate are infinitely more interesting and appealing than something like DA2 or The Witcher. The more 'RP' in my cRPG, the better. 


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My first and favourite cRPG was Morrowind, with a player character whose entire story consists of a racial background and waking up on a prison ship... I filled in the rest and gave her a history, a personality, and a purpose. So I'm fine with my wee Surana blank slate. But I also love my heart of gold Tabris and her wonderful family and her connection to the Alienage; my sullen and too-pragmatic Mahariel whose entire life is her clan and whose entire journey through the Blight is shaped by her losing them; and my Couslands, each of them different, because I made them so. And I adore my loopy and very grifter-y Amell, whose parents were illiterate farm folk from the Bannorn and as far as I'm concerned, not related (no way no how) to those people from the Marches who just happened to share her surname.

 

I do dislike being handed a character that leaves no room for me as a player to decide who that toon is... so for me, games like DAO or Morrowind or Baldur's Gate are infinitely more interesting and appealing than something like DA2 or The Witcher. The more 'RP' in my cRPG, the better. 

 

Yeah, good point. That's pretty much a staple in the Elder Scrolls. It's almost a joke at this point. Where every game you're a prisoner waking up.



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Surana has the least information because he is somehow connected to Lavellan/DAI,more than other Wardens.
 

 

Wait, is this speculation or confirmed? I'm very easily confused...



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Yeah, good point. That's pretty much a staple in the Elder Scrolls. It's almost a joke at this point. Where every game you're a prisoner waking up.

 

I love that bit in Awake with Anders talking about waking up on a ship in nothing but his smallclothes :P


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I love that bit in Awake with Anders talking about waking up on a ship in nothing but his smallclothes :P

 

Ah.. if only he had done so. He'd be the next Elder Scrolls hero. And have some dignity compared to DA2. :)


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I don't know if it's the greatest, but you can mention your character's father, birth (my human mage was born in Denerim), Zevi asks about your mother. Rest is up to you to fill in the blanks, typical RPG backstory. It's better, it makes it more "YOUR" character.