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If the Warden is an Amell, Cullen has a line speaking of her to Hawke in DA2.  He speaks with respect, and what sounds like fondness.  I also get the feeling that particular warden did the US, though the line may be generalized.
 

 
So he is certainly aware not all mages are cut from the same cloth.  He just views them with caution, one I can easily see any normal citizen of Thedas would have.

To be fair, some lines in DA2 shown a more extreme side, like the one about templars having oversight of mages by divine right.
I just think he might be changed a bit from DA2, based on what the devs said, and that the stream didn't show him being a jerk Or a bigot towards mages. We'll see in the game how his character development went. He'll surely not be the same as in DA2, Because Gaider said They won't Bring characters back that are completely the same as in previous games.

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When did he say 'I saw what mages can do'? The closest thing was 'I was a templar. I Know what They can do'. In referecence of templars' abilities.

Well that.....hum Templar ? Well my mistake .  :lol: I though it was directed at the Mage...because Cass say we need power and need to contact the mage . Then he say something..so I though he mean the Mage . Sowwy ! 



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Josephine- Sexiest voice ever. I found myself looking forward to each time she got to speak. I guess the hype thread devoted to her when we barely knew a thing is going to be worth it. Like her overall character.

 

Cullen- Ooh hot. Oh, he's talking? Didn't notice, too busy looking at him or waiting for Josephine to talk again. But yeah, he's hot.

Cassandra- I can see why she's been described as a crusty baguette. Dry, bland and no taste. Can't wait to swap her out for Iron Bull or Blackwall. Yuck.

 

Leliana- Looks like she's had to deal with Cassandra a lot. Her features are a lot sharper/thinner than Origins. Really don't have much to judge by, but she seems like she's relatively easy to deal with, and probably will see myself agreeing with her views and options more than the others.


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Some people have an issue with stong, independant women with a will and mouth of their own.

 

I missed the memo where we all decided needless aggression, insensitivity and poor social skills were the same as being "strong" and "independant".


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To be fair, some lines in DA2 shown a more extreme side, like the one about templars having oversight of mages by divine right.
I just think he might be changed a bit from DA2, based on what the devs said, and that the stream didn't show him being a jerk Or a bigot towards mages. We'll see in the game how his character development went. He'll surely not be the same as in DA2, Because Gaider said They won't Bring characters back that are completely the same as in previous games.

 

Hopefully there can be multiple outcomes, like a mage friendly inquisitor who goes out of her/his way to lift forward good examples of magery can turn the cast a bit less mage-hatey or the opposite. Maybe your Inquisitor can confront them if you think they are being idiots about it in either direction. Sort of like with Fenris. You couldn't change his character or anything but you could call him on it and if you had any sort of approval he would at least hear you out. 


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Not impressed for the most part.  I am more concerned with QA and gameplay issues than with character visuals.



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Well that.....hum Templar ? Well my mistake .  :lol: I though it was directed at the Mage...because Cass say we need power and need to contact the mage . Then he say something..so I though he mean the Mage . Sowwy !

No worries :).

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Cullen still thinks he is both smart and experienced. For being the dog, he speaks way too much. Hope he is good at playing catch too. He is handsome though, I'm sure I can take him to a contest or something, make some money.

 

Josephine stole the show. She was all politeness and giggles and still pwned everyone. Good job Bioware, I'm impressed. The hair suck though.

Leliana was boring. I thought I'd be more excited to hear her voice again. But well.. "tactically put" whatever.

Cassandra seems like a step down overall from DA2. She looked better than I thought from the trailers and pictures, but her hair look really bad.as well.

 

The characters with black hair look greasy. A serious hair gel overdose.



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Hopefully there can be multiple outcomes, like a mage friendly inquisitor who goes out of her/his way to lift forward good examples of magery can turn the cast a bit less mage-hatey or the opposite. Maybe your Inquisitor can confront them if you think they are being idiots about it in either direction. Sort of like with Fenris. You couldn't change his character or anything but you could call him on it and if you had any sort of approval he would at least hear you out.

Possibly. We saw Leliana (Though maybe temporary), being more against mages after her torture.

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@Rawgrim:

LOL, but what are "gamma readings"?

 

Its a Hulk thing. People are calling her she-hulk alot because of the gate smashing.



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I still don't understand why Cullen was gradually elevated throughout the series from a random annoying Templar dude to one of the most important and influential characters in the game, nor what the fanbase is seeing in him... but let it be. He'll probably make a good commander of the Inquisition's armies... as long as he obeys my (first) Inquisitor, and will not try to think too much on his own.

 

 

I don't understand it either. The one explanation I have is fan girl service. Bioware likes to give romances we will like and for some reason a lot of people playing mages latched on to Cullen since DAO, that forbidden love fruit from the circle. 

 

My first warden was an elven mage so I did think that was terribly cute and a bit tragic. However I didn't like Cullen THAT much and never expectyed him to return in DA2 and much less now in such a prominent role. But hey whatever. I also don't like how they prettied him, which just supports my theory. 

 

He was a ginger, why not keep him a ginger? >.> He progressively got blonder and aged backwards apparently. Anyway.... 



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That's a wonderful theory. Too bad Cullen wasn't actually supposed to be a Romance originally :whistle:. He was added as a LI long after They defined his role.
I'm Personally happy for those who wanted to Romance him. They're a lovely bunch :).
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Josephine:

She strikes me as a natural for diplomacy but in the classic "be nice and charming to people, and gain a vast network" way. How beautifully detailed she was with her daffodil silk blouse, and her rose gold chain. How nice of her to say "hello" in Elvish...Elven...whatever. She strikes me as someone who is so delightfully easy to be around, people want to help her out if possible. And that is actually as effective as forcing others to your will- you don't get as much rebellion that way.

 

Leliana:

She has become less girly than she was in origins. I wonder if she can be charmed into talking about shoes.

 

Cullen:

All I wanted to do was to take off his armor and claim it for myself. This is the way full-plate should look like- gleaming gold and fur trimmed. I was later told you can also remove his armor for other purposes, but at this point- with due apologies to his writer because I am sure he is very awesome and all that but , I just want his armor.  I enjoyed the way he was described by Mike Laidlaw and Cameron Lee, especially in the context of "the flippant quest."

 

At this point I wondered how they'd get along. I think Josephine and Leliana might plot to give Cullen highlights, because his single process blond hair could look better with a few high lights and low lights.

 

I continue to be impressed with Laidlaw's amazing grasp of fashion and style. His characters are always impeccably dressed in on-trend, seasonally appropriate colors. Subtly applied red eyeshadow for neutral cool skin tone dwarf, brick red dragonling trench for the mage while she visited the emerald graves, (with that azure coat for a pop of color for Sera), plus the lovely chamois boots for Evelyn the rogue (many of these are previous rogues). 

 

Cameron, however, might benefit from a trip to Orlais...pink shadow on a warm tone human. What were you thinking, Mr. Lee?


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Cullen and Leliana- Both seem like the same characters, only older and more world-weary. This is a good thing, I liked them in the previous games.

 

Josie- Hot. sweet, smart, and confident.  Definitely the girl for me.

 

Cass- Oh Scowly. There you are, bein' all scowly. Being rude to your closest allies. You are just a treat. I can't what to get the Bull or Blackwall to replace you and shove you into a corner for the rest of the friggin' game.



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That's a wonderful theory. Too bad Cullen wasn't actually supposed to me a Romance originally :whistle:. He was added as a LI long after They defined his role.

 

That they COULD add him as an LI I'm sure was a wonderful bonus of their extended development time. Doesn't mean his odd rise to stardom didn't start from his popularity with the fans on this BSN. Not to mention the mods that add him as an LI in DAO. 

 

Other characters I would have personally loved to romance or see again; Sebastian, Varric (yays! at least I get this one), Zevran, Shale. And from the books; Rhys, Evangeline. 

 

Dragon Age has a lot of memorable characters it's hard to please everyone all the time. :P 



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That they COULD add him as an LI I'm sure was a wonderful bonus of their extended development time. Doesn't mean his odd rise to stardom didn't start from his popularity with the fans on this BSN. Not to mention the mods that add him as an LI in DAO. 
 
Other characters I would have personally loved to romance or see again; Sebastian, Varric (yays! at least I get this one), Zevran, Shale. And from the books; Rhys, Evangeline. 
 
Dragon Age has a lot of memorable characters it's hard to please everyone all the time. :P

The extended dev time lead to his LI, yes.
I'm a straight male and I'd have loved Varric as a LI for my Dwarf.

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I'm having a hard time understanding why people in last threads are suprised/disappointed that Cassandra is very direct, balancing on rude with no sense of humor. 

She was always like that. From like the first second she is introduced in DA2.

 

I think you missed that she smirked at the Inquisitor's sarcastic comment right before entering the war room. Cassandra do have a sense of humor.


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"Is somebody talking?"

 

Sorry, I was just staring at Cullen the whole time.

 

Oh, and grimacing to myself at how ugly the Dalish inquisitor was.

 

I could not help but notice that everyone's skin was so flipping shiny.  It's like they need astringents badly in Thedas.  Or baths.  Ew, I bet they all stink, even Cullen.



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"Is somebody talking?"

 

Sorry, I was just staring at Cullen the whole time.

 

Oh, and grimacing to myself at how ugly the Dalish inquisitor was.

 

I could not help but notice that everyone's skin was so flipping shiny.  It's like they need astringents badly in Thedas.  Or baths.  Ew, I bet they all stink, even Cullen.

I though it looked like sweat  :lol: Overdressed ! everyone get neeeked ! 



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Hmmmm I think Cassandra is mostly bark and only bites when you ask for it. XD I've always liked her even when she was mostly yelling at Varric in DA2. Not sure why but I look forward to getting to know her better. I might also be biased because I have her anime movie Dawn of The Seeker. It portrays her before she was angry and baddass all the time and you get to see why. 



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Leliana's wording & demeanor when speaking to you regarding the Herald of Andraste title had me giggle a bit.  She really came off (to me) as the pouty kid not picked to be prom queen.  "But I was supposed to be Andraste's bestie!"  It remains to be seen if that's anything other than my speculation.


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I don't how Cullen was a toolbag. He might be biased in favoring templars over mages, but his actual concern was that using a lot of magic might end badly. He didn't insult Or offend mages.

Yeah don't see how he's anti-mage.

 

Plus he made good points both in the dangers of magic and potential usefulness of Templars anti-magic abilities in combating the Rift.  



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I think you missed that she smirked at the Inquisitor's sarcastic comment right before entering the war room. Cassandra do have a sense of humor.

Well... maybe a bit. And I probably did miss it.

And I don't have any issue with her being mostly direct (or even rude) with no so great humor. It suits her character, and she is depicted just like she was in DA2.

I'd have a problem, if she suddenly turned out to be nice to everyone, or would make snarky remarks at everything. 

They showed her first when she was yelling at Varric, imprisoning him and threatening him, because she wanted a piece of information. That's the first impression, which is the most important one. I'm glad they're developing her, while keeping her core first-impression features intact (aggression, directness and lack of social graces). That's what makes her unique.

 

That's a wonderful theory. Too bad Cullen wasn't actually supposed to be a Romance originally  :whistle:. He was added as a LI long after They defined his role.
I'm Personally happy for those who wanted to Romance him. They're a lovely bunch

 

For me, him being an LI in the given situation is fine.

 

What's strange is the fact, that he seems to convieniently appear in subsequent titles and grows in importance, for no good reason (at least not one that I was able to see). 

In DA:O he was a young, inexperienced Templar, who had a crush on possible female-mage Warden and later wanted to execute everyone in Farelden Circle, even disagreeing on the matter with his Commander. 

 

In DA2, he suddenly moved to Kirkwall Circle, which is known to be most problematic and infested by Blood Magic and apostates Circle in Thedas, despite him being traumatizen by blood mages in first game. He apparently becomes Knight-Captain, promoted by Meredith with exclusion of other, far more experienced Templars. He switches his views on mages by almost 180 degrees  - from hating and wanting to murder them all on tiniest suspicion that they can be corrupted (in DA:O he was basically worse than Meredith, except with no cursed sword to justify his behavior), to caring about them and wanting to protect them.

 

He takes command after Meredith's death, and despite him being 100% devoted to Templar Order, he turns his back on BOTH Templars and the Chantry, joins the Inquisition, becomes one of it's leaders, and suddenly, has enough military experience (where did he get it? he never commanded people on massive scale, and is like... 25?) to lead ARMIES for soon-to-be most powerful person in Thedas.

 

There better be a damn good explanation for all that.



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I think that he's late twenties/early thirties.
His leading experience was in Kirkwall after Act 3, According to his interview. He restored order in Kirkwall and Cassandra decided to recruit him. We'll probably know more in the game.
As for leaving the templars, the interview hinted that he think templars failed in their duty, and that he wants to be more proactive in helping the people in Thedas.
Keep in mind, Howewer, that he seems to join the inquisition before the Breach. We don't know well the relationship between the Chantry and the inquisition, but the latter was Justinia's plan.

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Cullen looked 30x better than I expected. Josie looked and sounded awesome. I feel like Leliannas accent is less noticeable, but it was just a small piece of chatter.

I just need to have this game immediately.