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"100+ gaming hours?" Your first and your fastest DA:O - run


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When I played DA:O the first time, I had already 80 hours of gameplay before I entered Denerim the first time.

The only main questline I did at this time, was that with the elves.

 

I wrote a post in a German forum, praising BioWare to return to old traditions and give the players really loooong games. Then I was a bit too enthusiastic, because I predicted the "end of the dumbed down 20-30 hours RPGs".

Man, was I wrong.

 

But that aside:

 

My first run through DA:O (hard difficulty) took more than 150 hours. It was shortly after release, so the only DLC was the Warden's Keep and The Stone Prisoner. Of course you can assume, that I literally looked into each barrel, under every stone, talked to everyone and did all sidequests.

 

The next runs were shorter, but never below 50 hours. As a matter of course I never ever did a so called "speed run", because this I consider as unforgivable sin for a true RPGer.

 

Now, during the last weeks before DA I will be released, I wonder, if BioWare returns to old values. According to some news they will.

 

My questions:

 

1) How many hours did you need for your first DA:O?

2) How many for your next runs (provided you did at least the important sidequests)?


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I'm pretty thorough, but not as thorough as you! :o

 

I think my first one probably took me 60 hours, or so. That is a complete guess, though, it was years ago and I don't really remember.

 

I only played through it 4 times, and the last one probably wasn't too much faster than the first (except for less wandering around because I knew where most things were, and didn't have to spend much time aimlessly searching.)



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I have about 15 gigs of mods currently installed. I'm at 10 hours, 32 minutes, on Hard, and I've only just left Lothering. My first playthrough though, all DLC included, was about 75 hours.



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First: 73h, shortest 46h

 

Including DAA+WH: about 90h



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 If I had to guess how long it took for my first playthrough, I would say it was roughly 40 hrs without the dlcs and with the dlcs, I would say about 65 hrs.



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I have about 15 gigs of mods currently installed. I'm at 10 hours, 32 minutes, on Hard, and I've only just left Lothering. My first playthrough though, all DLC included, was about 75 hours.

After my first runs through the game I installed, too, many mods. Only cosmetic stuff, though.

May I ask, what kind of mods you prefer?



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When I played DA:O the first time, I had already 80 hours of gameplay before I entered Denerim the first time.

The only main questline I did at this time, was that with the elves.

 

I wrote a post in a German forum, praising BioWare to return to old traditions and give the players really loooong games. Then I was a bit too enthusiastic, because I predicted the "end of the dumbed down 20-30 hours RPGs".

Man, was I wrong.

 

But that aside:

 

My first run through DA:O (hard difficulty) took more than 150 hours. It was shortly after release, so the only DLC was the Warden's Keep and The Stone Prisoner. Of course you can assume, that I literally looked into each barrel, under every stone, talked to everyone and did all sidequests.

 

The next runs were shorter, but never below 50 hours. As a matter of course I never ever did a so called "speed run", because this I consider as unforgivable sin for a true RPGer.

 

Thank you!!! I thought I was the only one. :P People made fun of me and accused me of lying on the old Bioware forum when I said it took me over 160 hours the first playthrough. They just said "That's impossible. The game only has material for 20-30 hours of gameplay." and "There's no way it could have taken you so long" and "You must have accidentally put and extra 0 to that number" and "My playthrough never gets longer then 20 hours and I do everything in the game" "Non of my playthroughs have been longer than 12 hours" aso aso. Finally someone who can believe me! :D

 

Since the old Bioware site is down I can't check the numbers uploaded so I had to start the games.

 

Dragon Age: Origins

 

1: 162 hours

2: 155 hours

3: 103 hours (was going to be a speed run to have something to play when I was without an internet connection but I don't like speed runs and I'm really bad at them, as you can see. :P)

4&5: 21 hours so far per playthrough. I was plaything these at the same time because I wanted to play and Dalish and and Human at the same time and could not decide. :P (was on the first major quest after Lothering when Skyrim was released and never picked up again, mostly because I deleted all the DLC and M$ changed their policy making it impossible to download them again. Then I got the game on PC and started a new playthrough)

6:  2 hours so far (Still in the Human origin. My PC broke down and when I finally got it fixed I had started on DA2 again, but I plan to continue later.

 

So far I have only played Human Noble, City Elf, Human Mage and started on Dalish Elf. I wanted to save the Dwarf origins until I play through the game at a later date to have something new to look forward to then. I plan to still be playing this game in 10 years or so. :D

 

Dragon Age: Origins: Awakening

 

1: 48 hours

2: 43 hours

3: 23 hours (a speed run because DA2 was coming out in a week or so. By this time I knew the game inside out)

 

About 3-6 hours per DLC on the other ones.

 

Dragon Age 2

1: 56 hours beginning of Act 2. Never finished this one. I was waiting for the DLCs so I took a pause and when I resumed I decided to start a new game because I wanted to play a Rouge.

2: 136 hours.

3: 128 hours so far (have half of Act 3 left) 

4: 51 hours so far (end of Act 2) Lost my internet connection so I couldn't continue my 3:d game so I started a new because I still wanted to play. This one is a speed run because I wanted to play an aggressive before DA:I, but I usually don't do speed runs.

 

 

I have always taken my time playing RPGs. There's no Bethesda game I have finished under 450 hours (and still I had to skip lots of places to finish before the next game's release), no Final Fantasy under 140 hours (FFX was at 180+ hours both times and FFVII was 99 hours half through Disc 1). Nice to see I'm not alone. :)



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If I remember right, my playthrough was in the 50 - 60 hour range.  I missed a lot of things (Liliana being the biggest) finished just over level 20, and had a heck of a time with Archie (I was not terribly familiar with how to approach high dragon fights then), but I made it through.  I still clock in just under 60, but my character is better off and the time includes all character quests and most of the DLCs.  

 

50-60 is on par with the JRPGs I played when I was younger, although those games featured a lot of grinding which tends to pad the time.  I rather like that Bioware's games tend to reward questing over running around killing random enemies or spamming certain actions.  The only non-Bethesda game (which is another universe entirely) where I have passed 100 hours was Final Fantasy XII.



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Only finished my first playthrough last week. I'd say from Steam it was around 70 hours, although that includes pausing to plan what to do next (I am terrible at games, completely new to this type of combat, and even on easy I was pretty much playing 'turn based') and also wandering off to get food, answer the door, check twitter, etc, so maybe shave off three or four hours? I wasn't being incredibly thorough, and I know I missed at least some of the companion quests (Wynne asked me to do hers at the gate of Denerim. Um, I'd love to help, but...) I think I met and recruited all available companions but didn't become friendly with all of them (including Shale, whom I adore). Certainly missed some things like killing enough drakes to make armour, Haven't touched Leiliana's song or the other DLC that has something to do with golems (I think?) or Witch Hunt, though AFAIK those are sort of separate to the main game? Started Awakening but I wanted to make some changes to that character's last few choices in the main game so I'm holding off on that. I know I also missed some of the smaller side quests (didn't run into a certain mage in Denerim until I was on my second play through, never found out what some people who I could talk to but didn't have anything to say yet were related to). Told the Crows to shove off.

 

I'm on my second-and-a-half play through (restarted after Redcliffe/Dalish as I wasn't happy with some stuff) and I suspect it'll be quicker (I've got the hang of combat, figured out some buttons and am getting used to using Tactics, and I'm skipping a few of the longer bits of dialogue when I've read the surtitles) but also possibly longer (I want to get more stuff done). So, probably another 60-70 hours, I'd guess, although I didn't notice what my play time was up to when I restarted (unless you can tell from the saves or something, like in Skyrim?)



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Thank you!!! I thought I was the only one. :P People made fun of me and accused me of lying on the old Bioware forum when I said it took me over 160 hours the first playthrough. They just said "That's impossible. The game only has material for 20-30 hours of gameplay." and "There's no way it could have taken you so long" and "You must have accidentally put and extra 0 to that number" and "My playthrough never gets longer then 20 hours and I do everything in the game" "Non of my playthroughs have been longer than 12 hours" aso aso. Finally someone who can believe me! :D

 

Since the old Bioware site is down I can't check the numbers uploaded so I had to start the games.

 

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I have always taken my time playing RPGs. There's no Bethesda game I have finished under 450 hours (and still I had to skip lots of places to finish before the next game's release), no Final Fantasy under 140 hours (FFX was at 180+ hours both times and FFVII was 99 hours half through Disc 1). Nice to see I'm not alone. :)

We certainly are faster, when we did multiple runs, because we know to whom to talk and where to look. But ~20 hours with everything major done? For me simply not possible. And then...why should I ignore, what the devs made for me?

 

You know, in the 90s we had many RPGs in which one could spend SEVERAL hundreds of hours with no end in sight (and I'm not talking about those, in which time was burnt by grinding). Good examples are Ultima VII, Final Fantasy VII and Wizardry VII. At this time it was merely unimaginable to have a RPG with a gaming time of 20-30 hours. When DA:O and ME1 came out, I considered it as a sign, that the gaming industry will return to old values - just to get slapped into the face with DA II and ME II. We will see, what DA:I will be like in this regard.

 

@ gnewna

If I remember correctly, you can see your gaming time by opening the character-info window... or was it the screen when you load a save?

Anyway, there is explicit info about hours in game.


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Yeah, if I love the content enough, I'm never able to leave stones unturned, particularly as there's often a chance of finding something new by doing something different. Always feels like a loss to avoid the side-stuff, even as otherwise metagamey it can feel since we're really supposed to be doing all we can to root out and destroy Archy. If the game were designed to somehow make side-quests essential to the main quest... that kinda is a contradiction in terms... then there would be no metagame decision to ignore priorities.

 

Alistair: "What are you doing?? We need to get to Connor, not dally here."

Sten: "Or not bother with Connor when we have darkspawn to fight..."

Warden: "Wait... almost... just a few more rooms to clear here first..."

Alistair: "With cabinets to loot that don't belong to us? More zombies to delay us? Come on!"

Warden: "You didn't mind getting Mom's amulet back, did you...?"

Alistair: "Uhh... ok, you got me there."

 

I've played through fully at least 5 times, not once less than 100+hrs each... Looks like Steam says I've played a total of 1700+ hrs of DAO. Sheesh...



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@ gnewna

If I remember correctly, you can see your gaming time by opening the character-info window... or was it the screen when you load a save?

Anyway, there is explicit info about hours in game.

 

Thanks, yep, it's on the save screen. Apparently Cheery's run-through as at the very end of it was 56 hours. I think this one will definitely be longer, I've found quite a few things I missed last time (including some fun dialogue with my faves*, hooray!) 

 

*tbh they're nearly all my faves...



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*tbh they're nearly all my faves...

Well, that would be the next thing to look into...

 

When I mentioned earlier some games of the 90s with long gameplay, they mostly had one disadvantage compared to later games: When you played them once, you knew it all.

 

Starting with Baldurs Gate and perhaps Fallout 1+2, we got some more reasons to replay because of the different possible party-combos and / or the different ways to develop our characters. While the game itself was still the same, the approaches to certain tasks were fundamentally different with another skillset and even more with different members in the active parties.

 

IMO especially DA:O and DA II are the outstanding representatives of the last years in regard of replayability, because the games felt every time completely new with a new party, not just because of the different skills to use, but also because of the partially superb banter. 


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My first DA:O playthrough was also my fastest. Around 60 hours. I didn't have any DLC installed, including the free DLC (Stone Prisoner).

My longest was over 80 hours, excluding post-game stuff like Awakening.

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My first game was the longest which was around the 80 hour mark.  The last game I played was a complete play minus a few of the side quests since I forgot to talk to the guy in Lothering before he was taken off the map was right around 22 hours.  I skip a lot of dialog now.



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Yeah, skipping dialogues saves a lot of time.

 

I see it this way:

To have the option to skip dialogues means, that there ARE dialogues to skip in contrast to games, in which dialogues are simply not there   :) 



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My first campaign was 97+ hrs; most were around 60 hrs after that. This does not count separate DLC not included in the main story.

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First playthrough (didn't include all DLCs and Awakening) was around fifty hours.

 

Subsequent playthoughs with all integrated DLCs (excluding stuff like Leliana's Song that have their own campaigns) but without Awakening were around 30 hours and complete playthroughs with DLCs, Awakening, Amgarrak and Witchhunt (except Leliana's Song and Darkspawn Chronicles, never bought those) take about 50 hours again.



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First playthrough (didn't include all DLCs and Awakening) was around fifty hours.

 

Subsequent playthoughs with all integrated DLCs (excluding stuff like Leliana's Song that have their own campaigns) but without Awakening were around 30 hours and complete playthroughs with DLCs, Awakening, Amgarrak and Witchhunt (except Leliana's Song and Darkspawn Chronicles, never bought those) take about 50 hours again.

Lol... my "goodness" prevented me of buying "Darkspawn Chronicles". I simply couldn't imagine to play ... one of these abominations.

 

Leli's Song was worthwhile because of the armour. Other than that... well, I've played worse games   ;)



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Lol... my "goodness" prevented me of buying "Darkspawn Chronicles". I simply couldn't imagine to play ... one of these abominations.
 
Leli's Song was worthwhile because of the armour. Other than that... well, I've played worse games   ;)


Darkspawn Chronicles was far different than the other DLC, and did not really add any items that I use in my games. But I did enjoy the mod and deeper insight to the lore, even if it was from a non-canonical perspective.

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At least 1000 hours in DAO. Played all classes at least twice some three times with all possible origins.

I always try to do all quests in my playthroughs even the secret / hidden ones.



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Recently I did a full play through of DAO:A and did like 90% off all the quests i missed out some ones that took to much effort but the total time to beat both DAO and DAA with all DLCs was 68 hours. I know this because I'd never launched the game in origin and now i have logged 68 hours.

 

While in steam i have over 300 hours logged 3 finished play throughs at about 100 hours each the first one being around 150 hours, compare that to DA2 full run was over in 30 hours at release and now with all the DLCs if you do all the quests it's not much longer then 30 hours.  



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I finished my first playthrough of Origins just a couple months ago. I think it took me just over 70 hours at Casual difficulty. I am a RPG newbie and it took me a while to get used to the combat. With Awakening and Witch Hunt et al,it goes over 100 hours easily.

 

I expect future playthroughs to take less time, if only because I'll likely skip dialogue I've heard before.



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to me 10 hour is enough to slain the archedemon



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Took me around 20 hours to Slay the Archdemon. After that all of my playtroughts had over 45 hours of gameplay. So yeah, the games are quitta huge. I just hope i haven't trow my time away.