i usually do, BUT i wont be doing this time, im enough iof a fan to warrant not needing to look at an objective review
Will anyone read reviews before buying?
#76
Posté 14 octobre 2014 - 10:25
#77
Posté 14 octobre 2014 - 10:35
What's the point of reading someone else's impression of something when you're already on the forum a month before release? Reviews usually just serve to sell something to someone who was on the fence or convince someone who wasn't going to go there anyway. Far better to play it and gloat over missed opportunity. ![]()
- Regular Wise Guy, Harshfacts et SmilesJA aiment ceci
#78
Posté 14 octobre 2014 - 10:41
No, I pre-ordered.
The only thing I look for in a professional or any type of review are problems with the actual game. As in getting it to work and even that I review carefully.
- Regular Wise Guy aime ceci
#79
Posté 14 octobre 2014 - 10:44
What's the point of reading someone else's impression of something when you're already on the forum a month before release? Reviews usually just serve to sell something to someone who was on the fence or convince someone who wasn't going to go there anyway. Far better to play it and gloat over missed opportunity.
You realize the game will still be sold after the release date right? How is waiting to read reviews a missed opportunity?
Also being an informed consumer is the point of reading reviews, everyone that is currently saying the game is great because they have played it and know also surprisingly has a BioWare/EA employee id card.
There are hundreds of big and small games that drop every year, some people want to see reviews rather than just the 'buy and hope' method.
- Joe-Poe aime ceci
#80
Posté 14 octobre 2014 - 10:47
Not for this game... I want to go in unbiased. For franchises that I've never played or for games I've never heard of, I often check out reviews beforehand...
#81
Posté 14 octobre 2014 - 10:52
I am pleased to say that the more direct answer to this question is: No. Hells to the No!
Without going into a serious rant into just how pointless, useless and self-serving "reviews and reviewers" are my main issue with never using them is, the near complete loss of remaining unbiased and displaying any sense of integrity.
Since I have this rare and nasty habit called "the ability to make my own decisions and form my own perceptions" I am fully capable of knowing what I enjoy, and even more prepared for the possible (however unlikely) prospect that I may be disappointed in some way. To me, any product (i.e. games) is the result of someone's passion, effort, trials, accomplishments and failings... I haven't developed a game, so I cannot arrogantly presume to know what that truly entails, much less accuse some other developer of "phoning it in" or such. But, even if I did develop games, it is simply pointless to try and push "my game" as better than anyone else's (though obviously such pettiness is not uncommon!)
In short, I respect that these products exist at all (since plenty of groups of idiots would do everything in their power to remove them, and your choice to enjoy them!) and when I find a product I enjoy, especially one that grows into a franchise, I am adult enough and yet enough of a fan to give it a chance and form my own opinion and (gods forbid) if I am totally disappointed, well that's on me! It is NOT however, my "duty" to pretend to become some soulless, obtuse, sheep of a social justice warrior to push my very BIASED point of view on others, as if I am saving them from.. what exactly? A game! ![]()
For me, instead of LOOKING for things to be wrong,
, I find it much more enjoyable to be excited for what may be right, and simply offer community suggestions for things that "may" improve it, but more importantly offer open discussions about. Simply because, unlike those who are too blind to their own ego, I am more than willing to be convinced of a point of view that can change my perspective with factual evidence, or at least a well founded argument.
Enjoy yourself, that's the whole point! Be your own critic, your own reviewer! Be the politically incorrect outlaw that does the unthinkable... Think for yourself! ![]()
#82
Posté 14 octobre 2014 - 11:00
People don't read reviews to avoid the trouble of forming their own opinions, they read them so they don't potentially waste $60.
That is only the case if you trust reviews...and I usually don't. Further, there is no need for a review for a game I know I will enjoy. I have never been unhappy with a Dragon Age game, so for me there is no risk. ![]()
#83
Posté 14 octobre 2014 - 11:00
Youtube gameplay videos always beat reviews IMO. My personal interest is in seeing how the game plays. By their very nature, reviews are opinion pieces, and that's never going to change. Some of them are more ethical and/or more informative than others, but in the end, you're trusting a person's opinion when you trust a review. If you know the reviewer and his/her tastes align with yours, that helps a lot, but in the end, we're all humans. We cannot be 100% unbiased, and no amount of written words will replace actually seeing the game in action when it comes to making an informed decision.
Myself, I've followed this game since it's been announced, I'm very pleased with what I saw, so I pre-ordered and I'm secure in my purchase.
And yes, Metacritic user scores are even more worthless than the likes of IGN reviews. Metacritic in itself is very flawed as anything but a starting point on a nebulous consensus over a game, but its user reviews are most often garbage where fans and anti-fans tear each other to pieces. If the game has a controversial element, any controversial element, it's probably going to get its rating bombed. Which is pure bullshit.
- SmilesJA aime ceci
#84
Posté 14 octobre 2014 - 11:17
Since I have this rare and nasty habit called "the ability to make my own decisions and form my own perceptions"
Man that was one hell of a pretentious post.
Again, the reason to read reviews isn't to forfeit your own opinion. Its to be an educated consumer. ****, we just went through this whole Destiny fallout, everyone should understand this right now before the forgetfulness hits. Hype is a marketing scheme. Developers, publishers, and the mainstream gaming media (IGN and the like) paint beautiful pictures of whats to come because it makes them money. A hyped audience gets them attention, thus money. To buy a product based on that alone is not being a smart consumer. Trusted reviews are not about being told what to think, they are merely investigations that inform you on aspects of the game the publisher kept secret from us in fear that it would prevent our purchase. Thats why they push preorders so hard, because they know thats the easiest time there is to trick people. A loooot of people are feeling pretty foolish and betrayed for buying Desiny right now. A lot of us on this very forum felt that way about DA2 and/or ME3. Its not going to hurt any of us to be just a little cautious, wait just a day or two after release, and hear from some unbiased sources what the real game is like once the facade put up by the publisher is broken. Reading reviews is about finding out out what the real, unfiltered game is beyond the cherry picked and deceitfully edited version shown to us before release. Its about not wanting to gamble $60 on that filtered view, cause for a lot of us thats actually fairly expensive.
- DragonKingReborn, Dutchess, Vapaa et 5 autres aiment ceci
#85
Posté 14 octobre 2014 - 11:33
I cancelled my pre-order after the PC demo but intend to pick it up once some clever forumite mods in something that will allow me to use all my abilities whether or not they are on my hotbar.
If at that time the reviews are predominantly negative I'll give DAI a pass.
#86
Posté 14 octobre 2014 - 11:34
Enjoy yourself, that's the whole point! Be your own critic, your own reviewer! Be the politically incorrect outlaw that does the unthinkable... Think for yourself!
Could you lend me some money? There are some games I have no opinion on yet and I would like to form an unbiased view before I buy a copy with my own cash.
- Giantdeathrobot et Joe-Poe aiment ceci
#87
Posté 14 octobre 2014 - 11:38
Absolutely not.
#88
Posté 14 octobre 2014 - 11:39
Why would i read someone elses opinion of the game i would like to buy.
Traditional games media is so poor nowadays, that its far better to go to youtube or twitch and watch people play and discuss the game for a better insight into if i want to buy that game.
Scores mean nothing (and are highly subjective) when you can view the game and see how it plays.
#89
Posté 14 octobre 2014 - 11:40
I thought briefly about holding off, but then I realised that i was one of the 16 people who actually liked DA2 and thus I wasn't exactly risking much in the way of enjoyment by not pre-ordering. Sadly, I think I missed the Inquisitor's Edition.
#90
Posté 14 octobre 2014 - 11:43
No. I already know all the features of this game that I personally know I will enjoy.
I only ever read reviews to get an idea on mechanics or features for games I do not know anything about. And even then I usually just end up going to the wikipedia page instead. Reviews are mostly worthless to me... I know what I do and do not like.
#91
Posté 14 octobre 2014 - 11:46
Yep. I'm going to read and watch reviews, watch playthroughs and listen to what my fellow gaming friends say about the game before deciding whether to buy it or not. I might even see if I can rent it somewhere. I am NOT making the same mistake like I did with Mass Effect 3 and Dragon Age 2.
- KteaCat aime ceci
#92
Posté 14 octobre 2014 - 11:48
Man that was one hell of a pretentious post.
Again, the reason to read reviews isn't to forfeit your own opinion. Its to be an educated consumer. ****, we just went through this whole Destiny fallout, everyone should understand this right now before the forgetfulness hits. Hype is a marketing scheme. Developers, publishers, and the mainstream gaming media (IGN and the like) paint beautiful pictures of whats to come because it makes them money. A hyped audience gets them attention, thus money. To buy a product based on that alone is not being a smart consumer. Trusted reviews are not about being told what to think, they are merely investigations that inform you on aspects of the game the publisher kept secret from us in fear that it would prevent our purchase. Thats why they push preorders so hard, because they know thats the easiest time there is to trick people. A loooot of people are feeling pretty foolish and betrayed for buying Desiny right now. A lot of us on this very forum felt that way about DA2 and/or ME3. Its not going to hurt any of us to be just a little cautious, wait just a day or two after release, and hear from some unbiased sources what the real game is like once the facade put up by the publisher is broken. Reading reviews is about finding out out what the real, unfiltered game is beyond the cherry picked and deceitfully edited version shown to us before release. Its about not wanting to gamble $60 on that filtered view, cause for a lot of us thats actually fairly expensive.
exactly....And to avoid the face slap of things like auto-dialogue...and an endings that are a kick in the nuts.... ![]()
#93
Posté 14 octobre 2014 - 11:49
I believe in Bioware...
Then again I believed in Bungie too and looked how well that turned out...
#94
Posté 14 octobre 2014 - 11:49
I'm still uncertain if I'll pre-order this game or not.
If not, I'll likely look towards Jesse Cox (As he is a Lore-nerd and likes his lore/stories to be good) Totalbiscuit, possibly Angry joe (His reviews come out kinda late in my opinion) and the Escapist (If there is nothing else).
#95
Posté 14 octobre 2014 - 11:50
No
#96
Posté 14 octobre 2014 - 11:50
Man that was one hell of a pretentious post.
Again, the reason to read reviews isn't to forfeit your own opinion. Its to be an educated consumer. ****, we just went through this whole Destiny fallout, everyone should understand this right now before the forgetfulness hits. Hype is a marketing scheme. Developers, publishers, and the mainstream gaming media (IGN and the like) paint beautiful pictures of whats to come because it makes them money. A hyped audience gets them attention, thus money. To buy a product based on that alone is not being a smart consumer. Trusted reviews are not about being told what to think, they are merely investigations that inform you on aspects of the game the publisher kept secret from us in fear that it would prevent our purchase. Thats why they push preorders so hard, because they know thats the easiest time there is to trick people. A loooot of people are feeling pretty foolish and betrayed for buying Desiny right now. A lot of us on this very forum felt that way about DA2 and/or ME3. Its not going to hurt any of us to be just a little cautious, wait just a day or two after release, and hear from some unbiased sources what the real game is like once the facade put up by the publisher is broken. Reading reviews is about finding out out what the real, unfiltered game is beyond the cherry picked and deceitfully edited version shown to us before release. Its about not wanting to gamble $60 on that filtered view, cause for a lot of us thats actually fairly expensive.
Reviews from fans tend to get hyperbolic and biased. I almost didn't buy Dragon Age 2 because of it.
#97
Posté 14 octobre 2014 - 11:51
I thought briefly about holding off, but then I realised that i was one of the 16 people who actually liked DA2 and thus I wasn't exactly risking much in the way of enjoyment by not pre-ordering. Sadly, I think I missed the Inquisitor's Edition.
Make it 17. I liked DA2.
I considered waiting for reviews until I remembered that when ME3 came out they said they said over 75 perfect reviews, or something like that. Even knowing nothing about the ending I found that hard to get excited for. I find perfect reviews hard to believe. Even after ME3 was out for a while there were some that liked the endings and some that didn't. Which reviews to go by? I'll read reviews on something I'm thinking about buying if it's been out for a while, both good and bad ones, to get an idea. However, if it's something I'm really interested in I'll buy it anyway and just use the reviews to maybe determine my expectations.
- SmilesJA aime ceci
#98
Posté 14 octobre 2014 - 11:56
Reviews can make your enjoyment of the game jaded. If the review points out something about the game that is negative you will fixate on that and every time it comes up it will be glaringly obvious and get on your nerves. Equally if the review is overwhelmingly positive you might go into the game expecting the best thing ever and it might be disappointing. Plus reviewers for the most part have no idea what they are talking about. So for that reason i don't read reviews for a game i'm already going to buy. If i get burned i just wont buy the next game in the series/wait till they are cheaper.
- acid_rain82 et SmilesJA aiment ceci
#99
Posté 15 octobre 2014 - 12:00
I see enough gameplay, and i will buy the game. Probably read some reviews afterwards to compare.
- SmilesJA aime ceci
#100
Posté 15 octobre 2014 - 12:00
No, since reviews can be biased and after I follow this game development process over a year I know it's going to be better and I'm going to enjoy it.
- SmilesJA aime ceci





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