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[Muspade]

That doesn't sound at  all like Cory.

[Eudaemonium]

wasn't there a thread back in the day that talked about if there was no hawke, Kirkwall was actually better off?  There were very good details in that thread but it escapes me because I think I was amused by it versus intrigued.

 

Forget Kirkwall, how about the world. Hawke is at least partly responsible for the Mage-Templar War, the discovery of Red Lyrium and the releasing of Corypheus. I mean, yeah, a lot of those things would have happened anyway, but it's pretty clear that Hawke is some kind of hurricane of impotence, tragedy, and horror. I wouldn't be surprised if Cullen quits the Inquisition the moment Hawke shows up.

[Medhia_Nox]

Dragon Age:  Cleaning Up Hawke's Failures

[KC_Prototype]

Well, he's in the game.

[Eudaemonium]

Well, he's in the game.

 

The Enemy of Thedas.

[HTTP 404]

Forget Kirkwall, how about the world. Hawke is at least partly responsible for the Mage-Templar War, the discovery of Red Lyrium and the releasing of Corypheus. I mean, yeah, a lot of those things would have happened anyway, but it's pretty clear that Hawke is some kind of hurricane of impotence, tragedy, and horror. I wouldn't be surprised if Cullen quits the Inquisition the moment Hawke shows up.

 

well, the thread actually argued that most of those things would never had happen in the first place. lol

[Muspade]

well, the thread actually argued that most of those things would never had happen in the first place. lol

That sounds like all sorts of contrived.

[Eudaemonium]

The only kind of plausible one is the discovery of red lyrium, since without Hawke's financial backing it's possible that the Tethras expedition wouldn't have happened. At the very least it might not have happened until significantly *later* than the other events.

 

Legacy establishes that Corypheus' seal is weakening over time anyway, and probably wouldn't have lasted much longer, and the Mage-Templar War was essentially inevitable, and Hawke only provoked it through her/his assistance of Anders. Anders probably would have caused it anyway, given his merging with Justice and the way it caused the cause to consume him more and more to the exclusion of all else.

 

The fact that all these events happen in a similar time-frame, however, may have a lot to do with the perfect storm that is the Champion of Kirkwall.

[Rychen]

I do not think he's the big bad, but after viewing the newest trailer I have a feeling that he is also the giant spider (aka Blinky). In the recent video at 0:50 we see who I believe is Stroud stabbing at it and in the Enemy of Thedas trailer we see blinky the same time we see Hawke and a Warden. Would make sense that Hawke and Wardens would be heavily involved in whatever new storyline he has.

[Ilidan_DA]

Is it just me or does it sound like the voice over dialogue "You will resist, you always resist.  It matters not." in the new trailer sound like Corypheus?  Maybe not the actual actor, but definitely similar tone/timbre as the character in Legacy.  At 0:35 seconds in.
 

 
I wonder if he is one of the big bads unleashed on Thedas?  Either free of a physical body or in a new one?

[Muspade]

Must've changed voice actor.

[sylvanaerie]

 

It does have a similarity of outline...

[LonewandererD]

I don't think it sounds like him, too grumbly, too low pitch. Corypheous' voice always stood out to me as being a bit off but this new voice sounds too much like generic deep voice bad guy

 

-D-

[KaiserShep]

Forget Kirkwall, how about the world. Hawke is at least partly responsible for the Mage-Templar War, the discovery of Red Lyrium and the releasing of Corypheus. I mean, yeah, a lot of those things would have happened anyway, but it's pretty clear that Hawke is some kind of hurricane of impotence, tragedy, and horror. I wouldn't be surprised if Cullen quits the Inquisition the moment Hawke shows up.

 

Hawke isn't responsible for the mage Templar war, Anders, Orsino and Meredith are. The two factions are already clashing, and Anders' accelerating the conflict to going critical happens no matter what you decide. Of course, if you chose to help Anders do everything, then sure, but my Hawke told Anders to get lost pretty early on.

 

Regarding the red lyrium, Bartrand is the one responsible. Would Hawke have sold the lyrium to Meredith? Maybe, if the player chose to. Of course, speculating on it doesn't matter, because it was stolen by a crooked dwarf and he made the deal on his own. If the red lyrium is going to be used as an example, then more blame should actually be placed on Varric. He's the one that gets Hawke in on this operation in the first place.

 

Everyone likes to use Corypheus, even though he was going to escape regardless.

[CENIC]

From the Enemy of Thedas trailer I thought the Elder One's accent matched up with Corypheus's.

Just the way he pronounces certain words - it's unmistakable.

[Muspade]

From the Enemy of Thedas trailer I thought the Elder One's accent matched up with Corypheus's.

Just the way he pronounces certain words - it's unmistakable.

HOW DO YOU PEOPLE EQUATE THIS VOICE WITH THIS VOICE? I CAN'T...FATHOM.

Skip to 1:00 

 

[Spectre Impersonator]

Corypheus was weak enough to be taken out by Hawke and his street urchin chums so I really can't see him being the primary antagonist.

[Ilidan_DA]

Hawke enters the Warden prison in the Vimmark Mountains and attempts to destroy Corypheus. History is vague on when exactly this occurs.

 

http://www.dragonage...stroy-corypheus

[Sephard]

 

Please look at 0:10 and tell me Janeka/Larius is NOT stumbling back, when Corypheus looked at her/him.

It happens with both of them and with EVERY finishing move (Mage, Warrior, Rogue). It's the exact same moment.

By the Maker, I think I found proof ...

[LonewandererD]

I am of the camp that believes that Corypheus did leave the Virmark Mountains using Janeka or Larius but this does not mean that he's going to be the big bad or contributing to the current state of affairs. As stated in the wiki Corypheus has anywhere between 4-11 years to plan all of this, I don't think this is enough time especially if we go by the minimum allowable time, maybe even less than that. Corypheus does not know of the state of the world and the imperium or even his own state, he's in a totally alien world than the one he remembers. I just don't see him be able to put together what is essentially a doomsday scenarios in such a time or state. Will we see him in the game? Maybe, but probably not as a big bad. Maybe we will see him involved with the darkspawn as we know the darkspawn are going to be in the game and that Hawke seems to be in the company of Stroud, two parties that would be interested in the actions of what is essentially a being one step below an Archdemon.

 

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[TheRevanchist]

He did indeed leave the Mountains that day, he did after all, thank you, for freeing him if you remember. He is now loose upon the world. He can transfer himself, like the Archdemon. This means it will be a huge pain to kill him once and for all.

[Shahadem]

As awesome as Cory is, I'd have loved for the Architect to have played a bigger role than he did.

 

Except the Architect is dead. And I know he's dead because I killed him.

 

And if I had purchased the DLC with Cory he'd be dead too. So he managed to live only because I didn't like DA2 enough to buy any of the DLC.

[TheRevanchist]

Except the Architect is dead. And I know he's dead because I killed him.

 

I am curious if he was another Magister. 

[Daerog]

It would be the biggest troll in DA if the Architect had no connection with the ancient magisters as Corypheus is pretty much modeled after him except for his head.

 

Edit: I think the Architect is an ancient magister. He/it just has no memories due to being killed at some point in the past and being reborn in the taint via a broodmother. It's just a theory, but as souls are able to travel through the taint (Cory, archdemon), and the taint acts like a source of magic similar to the Fade, I don't think it is a stretch to think that the souls of the ancient magisters are "damned" to the taint and are reborn through it.

[MissOuJ]

the Mage-Templar War was essentially inevitable, and Hawke only provoked it through her/his assistance of Anders. Anders probably would have caused it anyway, given his merging with Justice and the way it caused the cause to consume him more and more to the exclusion of all else.

 

Anders does succeed without Hawke's help: you can refuse to help him (he still succeeds) or you can tell him to leave in Act 2 (again, he still succeeds).

 

Kirkwall and what happened there was one huge perfect storm of unfortunate coincidences. The dominoes were already tipping over by the time Hawke actually managed to gain enough influence to actually do anything about it, and if anything Hawke actually helped to manage that whole mess when that house of cards finally came down. The poor guy/gal just got left with pretty bad PR.

 

But, OT: Yeah, I think the voice in the trailer is Corypheus as well. I wish he's not the Big Bad (because that'd just be underwhelming, IMO) - and the fact that the devs apparently said (?) that the Big Bad has been planning this for quite some time, and Corphy was released only recently (the timeline's a bit sketchy on this though, I think?), so he can't really be the BB, I hope.

 

It could also be a completely new character who just happends to be voiced by the same actor.