Corypheus's voice is Irrelevant because he switches voices as he switches bodies.
I concur. Too many people placed too much importance on his voice. For all we know, even if was meant to have the same voice, BW could replace it or tweak it to sound like another person.
Is it just me or does it sound like the voice over dialogue "You will resist, you always resist. It matters not." in the new trailer sound like Corypheus? Maybe not the actual actor, but definitely similar tone/timbre as the character in Legacy. At 0:35 seconds in.
I wonder if he is one of the big bads unleashed on Thedas? Either free of a physical body or in a new one?
I think the voice actor sounds like Cumberbatch. He has that same tone/inflection when doing a deeper voice in many movies.
It sounds exactly like the Profane abomination from the Deep Roads in DA2. Which, incidentally, was Corypheus' voice actor David Sterne.
Does that mean the Elder One is Corypheus? Maybe. But David Sterne voices several characters throughout Dragon Age, including Magistrate Vanard and the slaver who holds Feynriel captive, so they might just be using his villainous voice for a different character.
dont think the elder one is corypheus. wouldn't surprise me if the elder one=dumat. that he is the one whom created the red lyrium. (or in some way corrupted it, or atleast caused it to fall into certain hands)
dumat taught blood magic to the founder of tevinter, he initiated the blight by luring the mages of old to the (already corrupted) golden city. this whole templar mage fight seems very convenient. it would cause an even greated number of mages to resort to blood magic (more of them falling under controll of demons), it sows chaos in thedas. it's the perfect moment to start another blight. the good ol' divide & conquer.
he was killed, couldn't walk on thedas anymore. so guess whom the whole new demon 'old god' baby might be.... hint hint, wink wink.
edit : ''Dumat, the Dragon of Silence, was the first and the most powerful among the Old Gods,'' i.e. he's the oldest guy of the bunch. if someone is befitting for the title of elder one it's that guy.
i think he's just jelly the maker favored thedas. so he's ripping the veil apart and making everyone equal... ./tinfoilhat
Except the Architect is dead. And I know he's dead because I killed him.
And if I had purchased the DLC with Cory he'd be dead too. So he managed to live only because I didn't like DA2 enough to buy any of the DLC.
you say that he's dead because you killed him...
but is he ?
edit: and i dont mean in an ''your choice doesnt matter'' approach. but i mean as in an; he is an old guy with alot of unkown knowledge. what if he had like a horcrux somewhere ? you catch my drift.
Some people here did not want Corypheus to be the big bad. What's interesting, is that these people tend to have a bias that Corypheus is not the big bad himself, thinking up reasons for it that looked weak and backed by little evidence.
Hmmm...so I'm not sure if this has been brought up or not, and I just played through the DA2 DLC so its fresh in my mind...but is it possible that Corypheus acts the same way as...lets say an archdemon? When Hawke killed him his mind was transferred to another darkspawn...or in this case into the body of a gray warden who had the dark spawn taint and just happened to be there, and since Hawke isn't a grey warden and Hawke landed the killing blow...well that just means that he couldn't be killed...we also know that Corypheus is one of the mages who first made that transgression against the Maker...and those mages were cast down and were the first darkspawn....old gods....
Some people here did not want Corypheus to be the big bad. What's interesting, is that these people tend to have a bias that Corypheus is not the big bad himself, thinking up reasons for it that looked weak and backed by little evidence.
could you expand ?
personally i consider cory to be big and bad, and i think that he will have a big role to play in all of this. but he aint the biggest. or baddest. unless he somehow summons dumat into his body or something roughly along those lines. (something like a blood mage + demon kind of thing)
Hmmm...so I'm not sure if this has been brought up or not, and I just played through the DA2 DLC so its fresh in my mind...but is it possible that Corypheus acts the same way as...lets say an archdemon? When Hawke killed him his mind was transferred to another darkspawn...or in this case into the body of a gray warden who had the dark spawn taint and just happened to be there, and since Hawke isn't a grey warden and Hawke landed the killing blow...well that just means that he couldn't be killed...we also know that Corypheus is one of the mages who first made that transgression against the Maker...and those mages were cast down and were the first darkspawn....old gods....
(if memory serves me right) cory was an old mage of tevinter. the ones whom indeed did go into the golden city (which as he(cory) says was already corrupted when they came there) and dumat 'lured' them there(the good ol' deal with the devil. do this and gain amazing powers.) they were the first darkspawn. they arent the old gods. i consider them more like demi-gods, something more powerfull then an archdemon. and an archdemon would get killed right ? if he joins body with someone whom has a soul. i think the reason the warden(the old dude or the mage chick) that comes along doesnt get killed is because he's more powerfull and more or less piggy-backing or controlling said warden.
It sounded like David Sterne to me, too. Excellent voice actor, and he does a large variety of villain voices in DA2 that sound different from each other. Among the people he's done are Magistrate Vanard, Friedrich, Varian Ilithis, Rock Wraith Abomination, and Corypheus. They may have just thought it was too good a voice to pass up.
For other, more famous actors, it sounded a bit like Max von Sydow to me.
I've been avoiding all spoilers, but I fully expect Corypheus back either as the big bad or as his Dragon, either in this game or the next. The World of Thedas disproportionately emphasizes his role - he's mentioned more often than the Warden and I think more than Hawke. It's like they wanted us to remember him.
(Also, does anyone else think he sounds like a 1980s pop star when abbreviated to "Cory"...? Corypheus already means "conductor" so he's clearly in the music biz.)
could you expand ?
personally i consider cory to be big and bad, and i think that he will have a big role to play in all of this. but he aint the biggest. or baddest. unless he somehow summons dumat into his body or something roughly along those lines. (something like a blood mage + demon kind of thing)
We're talking about whether Corypheus is the big bad boss in DAI. And I'm saying there's a bias among those who doesn't want him to be the big bad boss. The reasoning given was shoddy.
As for your opinion about Dumat. Dumat sounds like bigger than Corypheus for sure. Thing is we already know Dumat was killed in the first blight and there's no reason or any indication given that he is back in DA, whether in DAI or not.
I've been avoiding all spoilers, but I fully expect Corypheus back either as the big bad or as his Dragon, either in this game or the next. The World of Thedas disproportionately emphasizes his role - he's mentioned more often than the Warden and I think more than Hawke. It's like they wanted us to remember him.
(Also, does anyone else think he sounds like a 1980s pop star when abbreviated to "Cory"...? Corypheus already means "conductor" so he's clearly in the music biz.)
See that's simple common sense reasoning there and it works.
We're talking about whether Corypheus is the big bad boss in DAI. And I'm saying there's a bias among those who doesn't want him to be the big bad boss. The reasoning given was shoddy.
As for your opinion about Dumat. Dumat sounds like bigger than Corypheus for sure. Thing is we already know Dumat was killed in the first blight and there's no reason or any indication given that he is back in DA, whether in DAI or not.
Oh! Corypheus is most certainly the big baddie in DA2...I think there was little doubt after reading that the Wardens believed the proximity of his prison to Kirkwall was having effects on the city and its denizens, and it certainly makes sense...and would explain why there were so many blood mages...and I can't help but remember that one particular elf...Huon...his eyes reminded me a whole lot of Laruis (but I'm reallly stretching there). Personally...I think Corypheus had a role to play in the mage and templar war...even if he wasn't quite aware of doing so.
** And in response to the response to my last post....I didn't know that arch-demons were less powerful that the ones cast down from the golden city. I was always under the impression that they were the most powerful...seeing as how only 4 have ever re-surfaced on Thedas.
I hope that Cory isn't the big bad, I hope he's one of the final bosses though.
Oh! Corypheus is most certainly the big baddie in DA2...I think there was little doubt after reading that the Wardens believed the proximity of his prison to Kirkwall was having effects on the city and its denizens, and it certainly makes sense...and would explain why there were so many blood mages...and I can't help but remember that one particular elf...Huon...his eyes reminded me a whole lot of Laruis (but I'm reallly stretching there). Personally...I think Corypheus had a role to play in the mage and templar war...even if he wasn't quite aware of doing so.
** And in response to the response to my last post....I didn't know that arch-demons were less powerful that the ones cast down from the golden city. I was always under the impression that they were the most powerful...seeing as how only 4 have ever re-surfaced on Thedas.
There was a codex entry that explained why Kirkwall had so many blood mages. I don't think it was mentioned Corypheus was one of the factors (though I could be wrong), though it could be plausible. However, we know Corypheus' influence affects Wardens, especially Warden mages, but not necessarily normal mages. Plus, it's likely that the Vinmark Mountains - where his prison was - is far away enough from Kirkwall for his influence to be significant, if it does effect mages in the first place at all.
There was a codex entry that explained why Kirkwall had so many blood mages. I don't think it was mentioned Corypheus was one of the factors (though I could be wrong), though it could be plausible. However, we know Corypheus' influence affects Wardens, especially Warden mages, but not necessarily normal mages. Plus, it's likely that the Vinmark Mountains - where his prison was - is far away enough from Kirkwall for his influence to be significant, if it does effect mages in the first place at all.
I have the codex right here!
http://dragonage.wik...ons_on_Kirkwall
Tada...
"The records say Corypheus has been trapped below the Vimmarks since the days of the Tevinter Imperium. Can it be a coincidence that the darkspawn besiege this area more fiercely than anywhere else on the surface of Thedas? Or that Kirkwall, the closest city, suffers from endless plagues of violence, lunacy, human sacrifice, and blood magic?
If one studies Kirkwall's public records, it becomes hard to deny that some malevolent force has long shaped its history. Could a darkspawn, even a powerful mage, have such influence even as it slumbers?"
—From a weathered journal bearing the Grey Wardens' seal
Now while it isn't proof...it does bring up the possibility that Corypheus was effecting Kirkwall.
Except the Architect is dead. And I know he's dead because I killed him.
And if I had purchased the DLC with Cory he'd be dead too. So he managed to live only because I didn't like DA2 enough to buy any of the DLC.
Cory would have lived regardless. He's harder to permakill than an Archdemon.
I consider Corypheus to be a big bad in the game, but not THE big bad himself
We're talking about whether Corypheus is the big bad boss in DAI. And I'm saying there's a bias among those who doesn't want him to be the big bad boss. The reasoning given was shoddy.
As for your opinion about Dumat. Dumat sounds like bigger than Corypheus for sure. Thing is we already know Dumat was killed in the first blight and there's no reason or any indication given that he is back in DA, whether in DAI or not.
ah that clears it up, had a couple of interpretations on it.
he's the angel of silence for a reason 
but aye, he is killed(or is he ? dun dun duuunnn). it wouldnt surprise me if cory goes looking for a way to raise dumat from the dead or in whatever state he is in(severe hangover?) edit: i mean, first thing he does when he wakes up in his prison is go like ''mommy!!?!?!?!?''
i do think he is the driving force behind most of the bad things that is going to happen (atleast concerning blight/darkspawn/grey warden.) in DA:I. he is ''The conductor, chief, or leader of the dramatic chorus''
i however think that dumat(in some way shape or form) has been scheming. i mean, the oldest and most powerfull old god just 'dying' ? and people just accept that? while claiming with a ferocious furiosity that cory couldn't possibly be dead? seems off.
Oh! Corypheus is most certainly the big baddie in DA2...I think there was little doubt after reading that the Wardens believed the proximity of his prison to Kirkwall was having effects on the city and its denizens, and it certainly makes sense...and would explain why there were so many blood mages...and I can't help but remember that one particular elf...Huon...his eyes reminded me a whole lot of Laruis (but I'm reallly stretching there). Personally...I think Corypheus had a role to play in the mage and templar war...even if he wasn't quite aware of doing so.
** And in response to the response to my last post....I didn't know that arch-demons were less powerful that the ones cast down from the golden city. I was always under the impression that they were the most powerful...seeing as how only 4 have ever re-surfaced on Thedas.
that was just my theory. my reasoning is that they are not only very powerfull mages (considering them going to the already corrupted golden city) but also because they came in contact with the taint first. so i rank them inbetween dumat and an archdemon. however i do believe archdemons having more power over darkspawn(greater control). but, again, my theory.
Since he was killed by a warden (regardless of who you brought with you) he would be dead for good like the Archdemon. Which is not to say he jumped ship prior or pulled 'a Flemeth' and transferred his essence, but I'm going to trust Bioware not to be that redundant and retcon his death.
With Cory, I could stomach an explanation like that to satisfy why he would have survived, but not the Architect.
The only reason the warden thing works is because the souls of the Archdemon and the warden destroys each other.
That destruction is clearly nonexistent when a Magister/Original Darkspawn merges with a warden.
I assume that it's due to the magisters having access to blood magic, which canonically can fully control others even other mages.
So Cory may be able to control the wardens enough (due to blood magic and/or his telepathic control over wardens) to subdue the warden's soul, which doesn't trigger any retaliation from the warden's soul. That would prevent any mutual soul destruction.
I have the codex right here!
http://dragonage.wik...ons_on_Kirkwall
Tada...
"The records say Corypheus has been trapped below the Vimmarks since the days of the Tevinter Imperium. Can it be a coincidence that the darkspawn besiege this area more fiercely than anywhere else on the surface of Thedas? Or that Kirkwall, the closest city, suffers from endless plagues of violence, lunacy, human sacrifice, and blood magic?
If one studies Kirkwall's public records, it becomes hard to deny that some malevolent force has long shaped its history. Could a darkspawn, even a powerful mage, have such influence even as it slumbers?"
—From a weathered journal bearing the Grey Wardens' seal
Now while it isn't proof...it does bring up the possibility that Corypheus was effecting Kirkwall.
There's also the existence of secrets underneath Kirkwall (per Tevinter Imperium). Thin Veil, thousands of slaves sacrificed, streets shaped in the shape of magic glyph - all in the effort to summon the Forbidden Ones. This is likely a more assured factor.
http://dragonage.wik...gma_of_Kirkwall
ah that clears it up, had a couple of interpretations on it.
he's the angel of silence for a reason
i do think he is the driving force behind most of the bad things that is going to happen (atleast concerning blight/darkspawn/grey warden.) in DA:I. he is ''The conductor, chief, or leader of the dramatic chorus''
i however think that dumat(in some way shape or form) has been scheming. i mean, the oldest and most powerfull old god just 'dying' ? and people just accept that? while claiming with a ferocious furiosity that cory couldn't possibly be dead? seems off.
that was just my theory. my reasoning is that they are not only very powerfull mages (considering them going to the already corrupted golden city) but also because they came in contact with the taint first. so i rank them inbetween dumat and an archdemon. however i do believe archdemons having more power over darkspawn(greater control). but, again, my theory.
Really, there's no good reason or indication to suggest that Dumat is behind the stuff that is happening in DAI, nor is he alive or scheming. A far fetched theory and wishful thinking at this point with zero evidence or plausible reasons.
I wouldn't be surprised if he appear in Inquisition
Given his story in the first blight, is very probable he can have an very important role in the next events
Really, there's no good reason or indication to suggest that Dumat is behind the stuff that is happening in DAI, nor is he alive or scheming. A far fetched theory and wishful thinking at this point with zero evidence or plausible reasons.
Also zero evidence that Cory is the one behind it.
According to the Masked Empire the prep for this has been going on for far longer than 3 years (the minimum amount of time Cory could have been freed), and why would elves be working with a Magister?
There isn't much evidence as to who the Elder One is.
Except the Architect is dead. And I know he's dead because I killed him.
And if I had purchased the DLC with Cory he'd be dead too. So he managed to live only because I didn't like DA2 enough to buy any of the DLC.
A pity you didn't like DA2. Legacy was the best part of the game for me. Puzzles, final fight and Varric's comments during said fight were awesome! I liked it even better than all the Origins DLC's with the exception of Shale.
Because Shale was just awesome. And, in my edition of the game, free!
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It's fun to speculate. I didn't realize the same actor did both dialogues. Doubtless they just wanted him back for the Elder One's voice. I just thought the way of speaking, mannerisms, tone, expression harkened back to Cory. That 'out of date' and slow, careful, prideful, almost 'aristocratic' manner of speech reminded me of him. Or how spirits in the Fade speak. I like that it might be Dumat. He was the hardest Archdemon to kill, being the first, and in all likelihood the instigator of the darkspawn invasion of Thedas.
Except the Architect is dead. And I know he's dead because I killed him.
And if I had purchased the DLC with Cory he'd be dead too. So he managed to live only because I didn't like DA2 enough to buy any of the DLC.
He lives regardless of if you played the DLC or not, I wouldn't be surprised if the Architect had a counter measure for his death also
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