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[TheBunz]

Finally got a computer again. Need to show who I best ME3MP to all you computer users who don't use the master system, PS3.
Need a graphics card. Thinking Radeon 6970 or R9 270X. What PSU would be enough to run these?

[Inquisitor Recon]

What did you choose for a CPU?

[TheBunz]

So you guys don't even know anything about computers? Not very good nerds at all.

[AutumnWitch]

AMD FirePro W9000

[Inquisitor Recon]

You're going to want a 3dfx Voodoo 3 series card for your rig. But you're going to need at least a 600 watt PSU for that sort of performance.

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

You're going to want a 3dfx Voodoo 3 series card for your rig. But you're going to need at least a 600 watt PSU for that sort of performance.

 

Oh you westerners and your recently released overpriced stuff taste. This graphic card can actually play most of the good games:

 

 

yeah, my first PC's GPU.

[bmwcrazy]

Do I spy a composite and an s-video port? I had a similar Trident video card in my first PC. Despite the name "3DImage," it actually didn't do much 3D acceleration. So I hooked up a Voodoo 2 to that Trident and I've been a PC gamer ever since.

I still have that Voodoo 2 believe or not. It's actually in a display cabinet in my dining room.

[L. Han]

If you are getting the R270X, going with a 500-600w PSU is probably a safe bet. In general, do not skimp on your power supply.

 

Also, just some additional info; if you do 3d or lots of rendering with 3d, an nVidia card is probably a better choice. But if you just do gaming you can go with AMD.

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

5000w Hoover Dam PSU

 

Dafaq?

[In Exile]

On a slight off-topic (to the OP) note, is it worth getting the 980 over the 970 to run this gen's worth of games at/near max on a 1440 p? 

[ObserverStatus]

I was thinking about getting an R9 270x myself, but I can't decide if I should hold out for something with more VRAM. The VRAM requirements on console ports are getting crazy.

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

I was thinking about getting an R9 270x myself, but I can't decide if I should hold out for something with more VRAM. The VRAM requirements on console ports are getting crazy.

 

R9 270x sucks pal. Go for a R9 280 or GTX 760 at least.

But the best suggestion is waiting for 970.

 

The reason why 270x is bad is you'll get hardly 30 fps with even 2013/14 games.

 

http://gpuboss.com/g...GeForce-GTX-760

[In Exile]

The 980 and 970 are a little overrated. If you're running a multi-monitor setup, yeah, they're good, but even for 1440p I'd suggest getting something older, cheaper, but equally competent. If you're completely set on graphics and super-high performance, then the 980/970 won't even cut it; they're not top of the line. If you're gonna shovel out that much cash, I'd just go for a newer Titan model. But personally, I'd go with something cheaper.

 

Personally I think multi-monitor set-ups are overrated. What older card would you say gives equivalent performance to, say, a 970 or 980 and why, if I might ask? Honestly curious, still wrapping my head around PC upgrading. 

[ObserverStatus]

R9 270x sucks pal. Go for a R9 280 or GTX 760 at least.

But the best suggestion is waiting for 970.

 

The reason why 270x is bad is you'll get hardly 30 fps with even 2013/14 games.

 

http://gpuboss.com/g...GeForce-GTX-760

Still be a big upgrade from the 6850 I'm using now. The trouble is, I want a new graphics card, but I don't want to spend a lot of money. Maybe I'll wait for the GTX 960 or something.

[In Exile]

The GTX 690 is really good one. It's rare though, and it's about $550 on Amazon. However, it completely outdoes both the GTX 970 and 980, and is only about $60 or so more expensive. If you're willing to shovel out the money, the 690 is your best bet for current-gen. For more conservative prices, a 780, 770, or even superclocked 760 will tackle most "next-gen" games really well for the price. A 780's about $400, a 770 about $300, and a 760 about $240. If you have a generous amount of PSU power, go for the 780 or 770. If you have a more average level of PSU power, go for the 760. Each of them is worth the cost and the performance difference from the 970/980 isn't very significant; gain an extra 10 or so frames per second for a few hundred dollars more. I use a 760 SC myself, and I haven't played a game that I can't run fine at mostly max or high settings. AFAIK 970/980s were made for multi-monitor gaming, which I agree with you on; it's overrated.

 

I'm going to have to look into the relative power draws of each card. My understanding was that the 970/980 weren't especially demanding on power. How do they rank  up relative to the 780/770 in terms of power use? Similarly, how does the GTX 690 rank up? 

[In Exile]

The GTX 690 is really good one. It's rare though, and it's about $550 on Amazon. However, it completely outdoes both the GTX 970 and 980, and is only about $60 or so more expensive. If you're willing to shovel out the money, the 690 is your best bet for current-gen. For more conservative prices, a 780, 770, or even superclocked 760 will tackle most "next-gen" games really well for the price. A 780's about $400, a 770 about $300, and a 760 about $240. If you have a generous amount of PSU power, go for the 780 or 770. If you have a more average level of PSU power, go for the 760. Each of them is worth the cost and the performance difference from the 970/980 isn't very significant; gain an extra 10 or so frames per second for a few hundred dollars more. I use a 760 SC myself, and I haven't played a game that I can't run fine at mostly max or high settings. AFAIK 970/980s were made for multi-monitor gaming, which I agree with you on; it's overrated.

 

I'm going to have to look into the relative power draws of each card. My understanding was that the 970/980 weren't especially demanding on power. How do they rank  up relative to the 780/770 in terms of power use? Similarly, how does the GTX 690 rank up? 

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

Finally got a computer again. Need to show who I best ME3MP to all you computer users who don't use the master system, PS3.
Need a graphics card. Thinking Radeon 6970 or R9 270X. What PSU would be enough to run these?

 

A decent 400w should do the job provided you aren't overclocking the CPU. But get a nice 500w PSU anyway.

 

This will do you nicely. There are power supplies for cheaper, but modular cabling is a godsend.

 

If you are not running Titan Z's in SLI and an i7 5960X you can't call yourself a PC gamer.

 

I know someone who sold dual Titans for dual GTX 780 TIs a while back for the marginal performance increase. I'm only just getting over the jelly now, so stop triggering me.

 

 

On a slight off-topic (to the OP) note, is it worth getting the 980 over the 970 to run this gen's worth of games at/near max on a 1440 p? 

 

On current gen? Probably not. The GTX 970 is pretty good. It's not worth the price bump for the GTX 980 unless you are going for 4k or multi-monitor setups. The GTX 690 is more powerful, but the GTX 970 can be found on newegg for just under $350 and uses half the power at load.

 

148w vs 300w TDP. For reference GTX 770 has a TDP of 230w while the GTX 780, 780 TI and Titan all have a TDP of 250w. That's not to say they all use that amount 100% of the time (they will be in idle most of the time), but it is the max levels of the card and indicative their respective power profiles. A card with a lower TDP is likely to have a more power efficient profile.

 

Still be a big upgrade from the 6850 I'm using now. The trouble is, I want a new graphics card, but I don't want to spend a lot of money. Maybe I'll wait for the GTX 960 or something.

 

Budget? You can get a decent R9 270x for $170 with Alien: Isolation and Star Citizen bundled in.

[ObserverStatus]

 

Budget? You can get a decent R9 270x for $170 with Alien: Isolation and Star Citizen bundled in.

I've seen that deal, it's actually what got me thinking about this. I'm just not sure how well an R9 270x with its 2GB of VRAM is going to handle future ports from consoles with 8GB of VRAM. The recommended specs for "Evil Within" were particularly alarming. Do you know if there would be all that significant of a performance loss if I meet all the recommended specs for a game aside from the VRAM and try to make up the difference with system memory?

[A Crusty Knight Of Colour]

I've seen that deal, it's actually what got me thinking about this. I'm just not sure how well an R9 270x with its 2GB of VRAM is going to handle future ports from consoles with 8GB of VRAM. The recommended specs for "Evil Within" were particularly alarming. Do you know if there would be all that significant of a performance loss if I meet all the recommended specs for a game aside from the VRAM and try to make up the difference with 2133 MHZ memory sticks?

 

AFAIK, no. You can't compensate for VRAM with higher clocked RAM directly unless you are using a system that shares GPU and CPU resources (no discrete card) like AMD's APUs, which is what consoles use with their unified memory.

 

What resolution are you on? If you are on 1080p or lower, then 2GB of VRAM should be fine. The landscape might be different nowadays, but I distinctly remember that idea that a video card is more likely to run into issues of processing power (i.e too weak to render at an acceptable framerate) before it runs into issues of VRAM.

 

If you are still worried about it though, look at this. It's an ugly little thing, but is noticeably better than the R9 270x, has 3GB of VRAM and is only $10 more expensive.