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[themageguy]

Hello everyone

So like many of you, i am currently planning on what inquisitors I want to play in SP.
Looking at the MP characters i realised that they should give a good indication of how a certain specialisation could play out.

For example, im pretty sure the arcane warrior will have at least 2 or 3 abilities shared with the Knight Enchanter spec.
Not sure whether you want to roll as a Knight enchanter? Give the arcane warrior a try. If you like it, SP gives you more options to further customise your character to your own unique playstyle.

Most of the MP characters are rather obvious, however i surmise that of each class three characters represent a specialisation and one character represents the generic class.

So....

Warriors

Templar / Templar
Reaver / Reaver
Legionnaire / champion
Katari / generic warrior

Mages

Keeper / generic mage
Arcane warrior / Knight enchanter
Necromancer / necromancer
Elementalist / rift mage

Rogues

Archer / generic archery based rogue
Hunter / Artificer
Assassin / Assassin
Alchemist / Tempest

I guess this all fairly obvious to everyone but im way too excited for this game so i had to share it XD

[Pistolized]

I am most excited about the Necromancer and Alchemist myself, but knowing myself I probably end up playing more of the more straightforward classes like Reaver or Elementalist.   ...  BTW is "force" considered to be an element?

 

As for single player, my first character is always my main character, and all choices have to be totally "in the moment" which makes them authentic.  Pre-planning just ruins it.

[Icy Magebane]

This idea seems to imply that you plan to play multiplayer before single player, or at least that you endorse the idea... Multiplayer sounds nice, but I can't see myself doing that.  I'll get a feel for the other classes by switching to different party members during the main game.  Although for the most part, I will initially be sticking to mages in MP since I'll be playing as a mage Inquisitor... maybe once I've had some experience controlling the party members I'll branch out some.

 

Still, it sounds good for people who are going to play MP first...

[themageguy]

This idea seems to imply that you plan to play multiplayer before single player, or at least that you endorse the idea... Multiplayer sounds nice, but I can't see myself doing that. I'll get a feel for the other classes by switching to different party members during the main game. Although for the most part, I will initially be sticking to mages in MP since I'll be playing as a mage Inquisitor... maybe once I've had some experience controlling the party members I'll branch out some.

Still, it sounds good for people who are going to play MP first...

I endorse the idea for people who are undecided or simply curious as to how a spec may feel.

As for mp before sp.....probably not. I will create my inquisitors look, play for a while. Maybe then look into MP.

I cant wait for this game to come out.

[A Great Biotic Wind]

I'm pretty sure Elementalist is the generic mage, while Keeper is the rift mage...

[themageguy]

I'm pretty sure Elementalist is the generic mage, while Keeper is the rift mage...

Nah elementalist has stone fist and the firestorm. Those are rift mage skills in inquisition.

[Silvershroud]

Nah elementalist has stone fist and the firestorm. Those are rift mage skills in inquisition.

You sure?  Both of those have always been generic mage spells in the past.  And they don't sound very rifty to me.

[themageguy]

You sure? Both of those have always been generic mage spells in the past. And they don't sound very rifty to me.

Yeah. Check out the skills thread in scuttlebutt. There are a tonne of screenshots and rift mage indeed has those spells.

[daveliam]

Have they ever released the bios and names of the remaining MP characters?  I need to know more about the Alchemist pronto!  Who is she and what is her story?

[Beerfish]

As usual I'll have all sorts of preconceptions as to what classes I will favor and like and then find out after a bit of play that I knew nothing!

[X Equestris]

Yeah. Check out the skills thread in scuttlebutt. There are a tonne of screenshots and rift mage indeed has those spells.

Vivienne had firestorm at one point, and she was no Rift Mage. The Elementalist having Stonefist and firestorm fits because they're, you know, elemental powers.

[GrommitSmit]

As usual I'll have all sorts of preconceptions as to what classes I will favor and like and then find out after a bit of play that I knew nothing!

I know what you mean. I started off ME3MP thinking I would play Vanguards and Engies based on my story playthroughs, only to find that I much preferred the Adepts and Infiltrators.

Planning on running Keeper/Support Mage, but would not be at all surprised if I end up drinking the Reaver Kool-Aid, too... That is Kool-Aid, right? Just dragon-blood flavored?

[themageguy]

Vivienne had firestorm at one point, and she was no Rift Mage. The Elementalist having Stonefist and firestorm fits because they're, you know, elemental powers.

In the old videos all the mages used the same spells. Hell, the Iron Bull used both a templar and a Reaver ability.
Those early videos should not be used as gospel, especially as the most recent videos have shown Solas and his rift magic tree which has the icons for stonefist and firestorm. To me its pretty obvious that they are now rift magic spells.

As for the elementalist having the spells ....well obviously he has access to those spells due to the elemental nature of those spells. That's why i lumped elementalist with rift mage.

[themageguy]

Have they ever released the bios and names of the remaining MP characters? I need to know more about the Alchemist pronto! Who is she and what is her story?

Sadly no, i too am interested in the alchemist.

Also slightly in love with the necromancer and interested in the arcane warriors story.

[Kage]

The nice part of MP characters is that they can be unique in their own. They will reuse most of the abilities of SP, but are not limited to them.

The elementalist does not need to be a rift mage, because they can be different spells. The elementalist's firestorm can be the DA2 firestorm, which does fire damage, has red flames, and it is not even a focus spell, just has a long CD or something. In SP, maybe the rift mage has the "veilfire" or whatever, which is very similar but has different color (green), different damage, different cooldowns, uses focus, etc.

 

That is the beauty of MP! They can make little changes to the spells, in order to put them where they want and give the MP characters the background and lore they need.

Maybe the Keeper is not so generic, maybe she has some nature spells. Maybe those nature spells are just recolors or renames of SP spells, but hey, they will feel more natural for her. (pun intended)

 

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[X Equestris]

In the old videos all the mages used the same spells. Hell, the Iron Bull used both a templar and a Reaver ability.
Those early videos should not be used as gospel, especially as the most recent videos have shown Solas and his rift magic tree which has the icons for stonefist and firestorm. To me its pretty obvious that they are now rift magic spells.
As for the elementalist having the spells ....well obviously he has access to those spells due to the elemental nature of those spells. That's why i lumped elementalist with rift mage.

I don't recall seeing those spells in the Rift Mage tree. There isn't any reason that Firestorm wouldn't be in the actual tree for fire-based spells. Neither of those spells seem to fit what Rift Mage is about, based on the description.

[X Equestris]

Rift Mage might have Stonefist, as there is an icon that resembles it. However, I saw nothing to indicate that Firestorm is in any way a Rift Mage spell.

[themageguy]

Rift Mage might have Stonefist, as there is an icon that resembles it. However, I saw nothing to indicate that Firestorm is in any way a Rift Mage spell.

Have you seen the screenshot of the rift mage tree? If you see in the middle icon, that appears to be the firestorm icon.

Check out the skills thread in scuttlebutt.

[themageguy]

I don't recall seeing those spells in the Rift Mage tree. There isn't any reason that Firestorm wouldn't be in the actual tree for fire-based spells. Neither of those spells seem to fit what Rift Mage is about, based on the description.

Rift Mage

These mages draw upon the force of the Fade, either pulling matter from the Fade to attack or twisting the Veil itself into a weapon to stagger or crush their enemies.


Based on the description, summoning rock and meteors from the fade sounds exactly what this spec is all about

Also, we have seen the inferno skill tree. There is no firestorm spell in that tree.

http://imgur.com/a/DzqMh

Also on this page in a spoiler tag, there is a screenshot of rift mage skill tree. The middle icon is firestorm
http://forum.bioware...chanter/page-74

I believe the screenshot is also in the original post too.

https://m.youtube.co...h?v=lsMmTfD3Xag

That video show Rift mage at i think 1.20

[themageguy]

The nice part of MP characters is that they can be unique in their own. They will reuse most of the abilities of SP, but are not limited to them.
The elementalist does not need to be a rift mage, because they can be different spells. The elementalist's firestorm can be the DA2 firestorm, which does fire damage, has red flames, and it is not even a focus spell, just has a long CD or something. In SP, maybe the rift mage has the "veilfire" or whatever, which is very similar but has different color (green), different damage, different cooldowns, uses focus, etc.

That is the beauty of MP! They can make little changes to the spells, in order to put them where they want and give the MP characters the background and lore they need.
Maybe the Keeper is not so generic, maybe she has some nature spells. Maybe those nature spells are just recolors or renames of SP spells, but hey, they will feel more natural for her. (pun intended)

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Sigh. The point of this topic is that if you were curious as to how a spec may work in SP, some of the MP characters seem to be able to provide a sample of the spec you may be interested in.

For example, lets use the elementalist.

The elementalist is not a rift mage, but we have seen that he borrows spells from the rift mage skill tree. That's why i equated the elementalist to the rift mage. ( i do like your idea of green fire in SP ).

As for the keeper, she hasn't shown any spells that can be related to a specialisation. There is no spirit blade, or walking bomb or stonefist that we have seen. We have however, seen her with storm and spirit spells and fade step.

Im pretty sure the devs said that the MP skills tree were different from SP so of course there is going to be variation for sure. I was pointing out that there seems to be similarities between SP specs and MP characters.

[Blackstork]

Alchemist is Artificer 100%

Archer is Tempest (probably)

[Blackstork]

The interesting part if will you be able to start with one of 12 characters, and unlock other 11 later, or there wll be some certain characters which will be unlocked at start?

[themageguy]

Alchemist is Artificer 100%
Archer is Tempest (probably)

Really?

Alchemist would suit a tempest much better than an artificer, especially as tempest use alchemy to wreath themselves in flame and frost.