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[bootyislovebootyislife]

In the latest Gameplay demo for PC, you can see your advisers, Cassandra and the Inquisitor discuss the title of Herald that has been attributed to the Inquisitor, because people believe the woman seen in the rift (who touches your hand), is Andraste.

 

Then, they talk about how the rumor spread between the commonfolk and Leliana says:

 

''Even if we tried to stop it (the rumor)''. Then Cassandra abruptly interrupts her and says :

 

''Which we have not'' and she gives Leli a pretty nasty glare.

 

What is you guys' take on this? Personally i see two possible explanations.

 

1. Cassandra disapproves of the title of Herald of Andraste and says ''Which we have not'', to reprimand Leliana whose job it was to stop the rumor, but which she didn't do because she approves of the title. Maybe she sees similarities between what happened to the inquisitor and her vision and that's why she believes it. This would mean however that Cass initially does not believe you're the Herald.

 

2. Cassandra approves of the title, either because she believes you truly are the Herald, or because of the political power and protection such a title gives you, and interrupts Leliana when she mentions the option to stop the rumor because to Cass, it is not an option. This would mean that Leliana disapproves of the title, either cause she thinks you're a scam, aren't worthy of the title, or maybe she's jealous that Andraste didn't reach out to her like the ''Maker'' did?

 

Your opinions?

[YourFunnyUncle]

Well since directly after saying that you don't like the title you get a "Cassandra disapproves", I think it's safe to say that the second option is closer to the truth...

 

[bootyislovebootyislife]

Well since directly after saying that you don't like the title you get a "Cassandra disapproves", I think it's safe to say that the second option is closer to the truth...

 

Thanks! haha i had not seen that at all, but we still don't know why she disapproves? Cause she is extremely faithful that you are indeed the Herald or cause she sees the potential such a title would have for the Inquisition?

[Dream]

Interesting that Cassandra disapproves if you reject the title. I would have thought 1 would make more sense. 

[YourFunnyUncle]

Thanks! haha i had not seen that at all, but we still don't know why she disapproves? Cause she is extremely faithful that you are indeed the Herald or cause she sees the potential such a title would have for the Inquisition?

That is open to debate. Maybe she hopes for the first but thinks that at least the second is true. It will be interesting to find out.

[Arakat]

At first I also thought that Cass was reprimanding Leliana for not doing her job, but then I noticed the above-mentioned disapproval AND the fact Cassandra keeps calling the Inquisitor "the Herald" even after the Inquisitor speaks her mind about the title. So I think the second explanation might actually be closer to the truth.

[Magdalena11]

From the brief interaction between Leliana and Cassandra, I'm guessing the two of them disagree about more than the title.  I love the bit where Cassandra cuts in on Leliana's introduction and just says she's the spymaster.  I think Cass disaproves because she approves of the title.  

[YourFunnyUncle]

Yeah I think there's some long-standing rivalry between Cassandra and Leliana dating back to their time as "hands" of the Divine. Should be fun to watch it play out...

[taviastrife]

It could still be a slight case of point 1, too, though.  Cass views the title as something worthwhile, something to use in garnering support for the Inquisition.  And if the Inquisitor rejects the title, that's a valuable asset shot down the drain.  She disapproves.  Also, it could be the case of both.  She believes in the title and thinks it will be useful as well.  Rejecting in either way would cause disapproval.

[Jaison1986]

Yeah, I think when Cassandra says to Leliana "wich we have not", might be in lines that she haves no intention of stopping the rumors, as it might help the organization unfluence grow.

[azarhal]

I think Cassandra disapproved because the answer dissed Andraste.

 

I also think that her blunt comment to Leliana was more of a "get to the point" than a "I don't want the rumors to be quelled". You really need to pay attention to the body language.

 

Leliana: ''Even if we tried to stop it (the rumor)...''

Cassandra: "Which we have not" (exasperated glare/body language = Get to the point)

Leliana: (pointed stiff glare back = Don't tell me what to do) The point is...

 

That exchange is totally awesome might I add.

 

Anyway, it's clear that Cassandra and Leliana already discussed it and agreed to let the rumor spread (or even spread it). Leliana was just trying to make it look a bit less like they let it happen by making it look like it is out of their control. Cassandra doesn't give a damn if the PC is totally aware they are being used.

[Basement Cat]

I think Cassandra disapproved because the answer dissed Andraste.

 

I also think that her blunt comment to Leliana was more of a "get to the point" than a "I don't want the rumors to be quelled". You really need to pay attention to the body language.

 

Leliana: ''Even if we tried to stop it (the rumor)...''

Cassandra: "Which we have not" (exasperated glare/body language = Get to the point)

Leliana: (pointed stiff glare back = Don't tell me what to do) The point is...

 

That exchange is totally awesome might I add.

 

Anyway, it's clear that Cassandra and Leliana already discussed it and agreed to let the rumor spread (or even spread it). Leliana was just trying to make it look a bit less like they let it happen by making it look like it is out of their control. Cassandra doesn't give a damn if the PC is totally aware they are being used.

That's a really good analysis. It's also the second time that Cassandra interrupts Leliana in that scene. She did it during her introduction too. Leliana could just be fed up with the bluntness at this point. 

 

Leliana: *quit cramping my style, dammit!*

[BloodKaiden]

Well her wallpaper was tagged "The Believer" so I think its safe to say she may see value in our Herald title.

[YourFunnyUncle]

I think Cassandra disapproved because the answer dissed Andraste.

 

I also think that her blunt comment to Leliana was more of a "get to the point" than a "I don't want the rumors to be quelled". You really need to pay attention to the body language.

 

Leliana: ''Even if we tried to stop it (the rumor)...''

Cassandra: "Which we have not" (exasperated glare/body language = Get to the point)

Leliana: (pointed stiff glare back = Don't tell me what to do) The point is...

 

That exchange is totally awesome might I add.

 

Anyway, it's clear that Cassandra and Leliana already discussed it and agreed to let the rumor spread (or even spread it). Leliana was just trying to make it look a bit less like they let it happen by making it look like it is out of their control. Cassandra doesn't give a damn if the PC is totally aware they are being used.

Hmmm... It's certainly clear that this is not a new topic of conversation between Leli and Cass, and I'd agree that Cass appears to have all the diplomatic skill and tact of a sledgehammer. I would say however say that the extent to which they agree about the title beyond its political usefulness remains open to question, at least based on this exchange.

[10K]

Cassandra is a believer of andraste and the teachings of the chantry, so I'm not surprised that she disapproves if you reject the title. Leliana is also, but i find her to be more open minded when it comes to others beliefs.

[boissiere]

Just think Cass as Aveline. She wants to protect people (a little like Cullen) so she wants a person to embody that point. And the title of Herald is typically what people need...

[introverted_assassin]

I caught that. Didn't see that disapproval so it would seem Cassie thinks the title is either befitting or serves a greater purpose for the Inquisition. My qunari mage and elven rogue's answer won't change because of it. I can understand the influence and yadda yadda yadda, but no.

[Vita Brevis]

I'm confused about this "Cass dissaproves". Since there's no numbers anymore as the devs said companions no longer care about what you say, only about what you do. So... what does this "dissaproves" even mean? 

Like, she'll bring this up in conversation later or what?

[TheChosenOne]

I just hope when my Human mage romance Cassandra she wouldn't only like my PC just because he's the Herald 

 

 that would be disappointing...... 

[TheEternalStudent]

I'm confused about this "Cass dissaproves". Since there's no numbers anymore as the devs said companions no longer care about what you say, only about what you do. So... what does this "dissaproves" even mean?
Like, she'll bring this up in conversation later or what?

They care, you just don't get numeric values, like Origins, or even a barlike II.

[TheEternalStudent]

Maker's breath, triple post.

[TheEternalStudent]

Maker's breath, triple post.

[Tuxedo]

Leliana seems to have changed a lot since Origins. I'm interested to see what she'll be like. Cass probably wants what's best for the inquisition and if it means using the 'Herald' title, then so be it.

[Magdalena11]

Leliana seems to have changed a lot since Origins. I'm interested to see what she'll be like. Cass probably wants what's best for the inquisition and if it means using the 'Herald' title, then so be it.

I'm really hoping she has.  I thought it was interesting that she seemed to be in favor of working with the mages, while Cullen was templars all the way.  I guess her tune changes as she gets into the game, because she doesn't seem very pro-mage after Alexius.  The colder, harder attitude suits her, I think.  I'm really interested to see the new side of her too.

[SomeoneStoleMyName]

Well her wallpaper was tagged "The Believer" so I think its safe to say she may see value in our Herald title.

 

Yep, definitely a religious fanatic. I find that strange tbh considering that is supposed to be Leliana? The "I love the chantry, Andraste and the maker" attitude Leliana had in Origins was *not* an act on her part, as she proved that by defending the sacred ashes with her life.