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[rocsage]

The reason is historical. http://www.eurogamer...sed-on-a-friday

 

TL;DR blame it on British shops.

with that as a rationale, I must appreciate how different logics are employed for the same issue.

...and business class teachers grade me poorly on assignments and boast how "it's a higher level of understanding."

[Arakat]

Britain refuses to join the Euro, refuses Schengen, refuses to drive on the right, and forces all of Europe's game releases to be a Friday because of the common EU market (I assume). Time to take your pitchforks to the European Parliament to kick the UK out!

 

I'm British myself so I'm not sure what I'm getting at, maybe I ought to move back to the Netherlands...

 

Some EU countries get DA:I on a Thursday (the 20th), though. Or is it all of Europe apart from the UK? All I know for sure is that Finland and Sweden get it on the 20th (ahhh it's good to be Nordic ).

[dch2404]

Some EU countries get DA:I on a Thursday (the 20th), though. 

 

And now I am thoroughly confused.

[Slash_luke]

Funny enough I remember that. I had to buy it from another shop. The solution is quite simple. If you want a worldwide release date you have to give up your rights to a physical copy. Its the only way. But people wont because they want their action figures and cloth maps.

 

Why? Other worldwide releases didn't have any problems with delivering physical copies to all retailers few days before global release date. And even now with "british" friday releases (I'm in central europe and still affected by this ancient british decision..nice ) retailers gets copies of most of the games usually on wednesday, sometimes even sooner.

So I don't think that delivering physical copies to retailers/customers would be problem at all. They are made in different coutries (worldwide) anyway, so it's not like you have to send physical copies of Dragon Age from US/Canada to Europe.

 

edit: but I don't mind digital copies. Today I buy physical copies only when I want Collector's edition or when the retail price is lower than on Steam/Origin/GOG etc. (which happens, because Steam prices outside Steam Sales are often unreasonably high, so I buy physical copy for like 10-30% less, register key on Steam and never use physical copy again..same goes to Origin)

[Todrazok]

Seems odd aye, but Im not too fussed about it. I likely wouldnt have much time to play until the weekend starts at launch day anyways. In addition my birthday is at the 22nd, so I'll be considering the first quality day of Inquisition gaming as a present to myself

[Sylvius the Mad]

Britain refuses to join the Euro, refuses Schengen, refuses to drive on the right, and forces all of Europe's game releases to be a Friday because of the common EU market (I assume). Time to take your pitchforks to the European Parliament to kick the UK out!

Given recent election results there, the UK might like that.

[A.Kazama]

Mate it's always been like this. Europeans and us Aussies aren't as cool as the centre of the world so we get things later than most.

 

Like smash bros on Wii U, America gets it first on Nov 21st, while we get it on december 6th.

 

Luckily Dragon Age is out by then, so I've something to occupy my time whilst waiting.

[Milan92]

Because Batman?

Because Batman.

[Mihura]

So sell me on why would the online release date be any different at a specific part of the world?
This is turning me off so much to buy this game.

 

But you still need to buy it, I want to play MP with cool people.

[AshenEndymion]

Funny enough I remember that. I had to buy it from another shop. The solution is quite simple. If you want a worldwide release date you have to give up your rights to a physical copy. Its the only way. But people wont because they want their action figures and cloth maps.

 

I don't really buy physical copies of games for action figures or cloth maps, or any other "added bonus".  I buy physical copies so I truly say I own a copy of the game.  I don't like digital copies, because all I'm buying a license to play the game.  Which, essentially, means I'm paying up to $60 to rent a game until the developer/publisher decides I don't get to play it anymore....

 

And while I'm okay with that in regards to games I don't care about(like Skyrim or Dark Souls) I don't really want that for games I do care about enough to pre-order...

[Lethys1]

I hate when people say "am I the only one," when clearly they aren't the only one.  This is not an original idea or complaint, and I think I've seen this posted a bunch of other times on here already.

[Merci357]

I would understand it if all publishers would stick to this NA on tuesday, EU on thursday (continental EU) or friday (UK) scheme.

 

However, that is not the case, there are plenty of games (for example Blizzard games) that release on the same day worldwide. Why is it possible for some publishers to ignore this "rule"?

 

That said, I doubt anything changes until physical releases go the way of the dinosaur...

[Shahadem]

That said, I doubt anything changes until physical releases go the way of the dinosaur...

 

They haven't already?

 

I guess it's because old fossils like me still buy boxed versions so we can add them to our collection.

[Siven80]

It doesnt really make any sense. But some publishers still stick to it.

 

Though recently for example, the digital version of Shadows of Mordor released on a Tuesday in europe (99% sure).

 

Hey EA, take note of fellow publisher WBGames decision and do the same

[Kroitz]

The online release date is locked to the street release date. I get that it seems like a bummer, but it´s a way to secure an even chance for distributors.

[RealityMachina]

 

 

However, that is not the case, there are plenty of games (for example Blizzard games) that release on the same day worldwide. Why is it possible for some publishers to ignore this "rule"?

While I can't say this applies effectively for *all* publishers that can ignore the rule (since I'm just some random person on the internet and thus don't know exactly how these sort of things work for them), for Blizzard and other similarly focused companies, it's probably because PC's their primary market and thus physical retailers don't really matter to them because we hopped onboard the digital distribution train early on.

 

Of course, this is where things get a bit interesting with this generation of consoles, as this generation is looking like it might have actually a decent shot at making the same transition to digital PC has done, so I wouldn't be surprised if games like Arkham Knight are going be the first ones to start making attempts at encouraging digital purchases over physical ones, since they're next gen + PC only. I mean, heck so far the pre-order bonuses for Arkham Knight so far have been sane compared to how Arkham City had so many different pre-order bonsues with so many retailers, a moderator on their forums had to write a guide as to how to get the pre-order bonus you wanted.

 

Of course it probably helps that Arkham Knight's publisher in particular is a division within a division of a multimedia behemoth (Time Warner Inc.), so they can probably afford to tank any losses they can incur with physical retailers that EA cannot, if only because Time Warner makes them look small by comparison, along with the far more diverse ways they make money (HBO, Cinemax, TBS, and the rest of the Warner Bros division that are involved in TV, movies, music, comics, etc.)

[davepissedatending]

Yea ive asked about this and been told the "reason" and i would accept that but games like the evil within just came out today in the uk on a Wednesday! And gta 5 comes out world wide on the 18th on November which is a Tuesday in the uk? But Dai can't come out till Friday in the uk because of "reasons" so yea i don't understand it seems one rule for one game one rule for another

[davepissedatending]

It doesnt really make any sense. But some publishers still stick to it.

Though recently for example, the digital version of Shadows of Mordor released on a Tuesday in europe (99% sure).

Hey EA, take note of fellow publisher WBGames decision and do the same

yep the evil within came out today in the uk

[davepissedatending]

So sell me on why would the online release date be any different at a specific part of the world?
This is turning me off so much to buy this game.

I totally agree the evil within came out today in the uk and gta5 comes out on a Tuesday but Dai is coming out on the Friday because of "reasons" makes no sense to me either mate

[sandokas]

I hate when people say "am I the only one," when clearly they aren't the only one.  This is not an original idea or complaint, and I think I've seen this posted a bunch of other times on here already.

This is really unfair, because I actually searched the forum to know what people were saying about this and found nothing except a few abandoned posts with "smart" remarks about using VPN.

Now bare with me, if we're going to use VPN, to circumvent a restriction, why not go all the way and play the game for free. Why is it that breaking some of the rules is ok, but breaking others are not?

1 - I believe in the spirit of the rules, or principle behind them. Sometimes we have to break the rules to keep the principle alive, sometimes obeying the rule to the letter might be breaking the principle behind it. This is why I asked that you sold me on the reason why this was being made so, so that I can rationalize why I might be willing to buy a game where I am treated as a second class costumer.

2 - I find it funny that people try to separate Bioware from Electronic Arts. EA bought Bioware. They are the same company. I am sure EA would like to sell Dragon Age Fall/Winter, and Dragon Age Spring/Summer, but they can't because release times are decisions that make part of the Development Process. So, stop trying to pin the blame off Bioware.

3 - The fact that you can use a VPN to activate the process is just one of the examples of how wrong region locking is. I am pretty sure if a region lock is in place unlocking it with different means might put you in trouble. It's enough to have a flag associated with the record in the database and in some obscure part of the known-to-screw-up Origin piece of software for the game not to show up in a select record and you having an invalid state in your game library.

So, while I appreciate and thank you all the remarks about using VPN, or how the restriction is only a few days difference and not that bad, I don't think they attack the real issue.

If this was a store, and they tried to tell me that I couldn't receive an item at the same time as another client because he was a different nationality I would not only never come back to that store, but I would probably make a complain with the consumer department. I am pretty sure someone that would be more picky than me would be able to sue them to exhaustion... and win.

[KoorahUK]

So sell me on why would the online release date be any different at a specific part of the world?
This is turning me off so much to buy this game.

So let me get this straight....

 

You want the game so badly that being forced to wait 2 or 3 days longer to start playing makes you so furious you don't want to play the game at all?

[Kantr]

2 - I find it funny that people try to separate Bioware from Electronic Arts. EA bought Bioware. They are the same company. I am sure EA would like to sell Dragon Age Fall/Winter, and Dragon Age Spring/Summer, but they can't because release times are decisions that make part of the Development Process. So, stop trying to pin the blame off Bioware.
 

Bioware and EA are still separate entities. This isn't a discussion of what date the game should be released on, but when it should be available for download.

[Lilaeth]

Given that most of the big chains of shops in the UK aren't even UK-controlled, it does sound like a feeble excuse.

[KoorahUK]

Bioware and EA are still separate entities. This isn't a discussion of what date the game should be released on, but when it should be available for download.

Sadly the two are not independant of one another. While sales still encompass physical media and that media has to be sold in shops, digital media will always be tied to the release date of physical media, the publishers usually can't afford to ****** off the retailers by releasing digital versions earlier as this will definitely result in lost sales for them. 

On the staggered geographical release dates, yes thats a pain. 

[Gill Kaiser]

Nobody likes this stupid anachronism. I eagerly await the day when consoles embrace the digital market and we can finally leave this nonsense behind.