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[janddran]

I think the magic "safe" number is 80C.  My laptop used to go over 96C all the time when gaming.  It was...damaging. Still works great for everything else just no more gaming on it unless it's old. (Like NWN 2, SWKOTOR old.)

 

Thanks. Yeah, luckily I favor some older games but I'm not sure about the 80C. I hear that for Intel CPUs and while I like this CPU the more conservative AMD people say 65-70. If that is the case I don't know how damaging it is to go a bit over. I just hope the game is optimized well and I can enjoy the lovely graphics. You have good taste in games...those are two of my favorites.

[Spooks94]

Thanks. Yeah, luckily I favor some older games but I'm not sure about the 80C. I hear that for Intel CPUs and while I like this CPU the more conservative AMD people say 65-70. If that is the case I don't know how damaging it is to go a bit over. I just hope the game is optimized well and I can enjoy the lovely graphics. You have good taste in games...those are two of my favorites.

I know right?  Love those old Bioware games.  I went looking for more of their games and then realized I owned them all already.  I was a fan and didn't even know it.   But if you're really worried about temps you could always do what I did with my old XPS.  I popped the side open and had a fan blowing on it while it was on it's last legs.  It looked really funny. 

[Sylvius the Mad]

The R295X2 is just 2 GPUs in one card, so it runs in Crossfire the whole time. And even if you disable one GPU you would still have 4GB VRAM in the end. The 8GB figure comes from each GPU having 4GB but unfortunately it cannot stack.

So either one can use 4GB as necessary, but the total at one time also can't exceed 4.  Good to know.  Thanks.

[Meltemph]

Anyone know the max amount of ram frostbite can take advantage of? Just curious.

[kipac]

Does anyone know if 600w PSU could handle R9 280x or R9 270x without frying other components?
My CPU is AMD FX-6100, ram is 8GB (2x 4GB), and mobo is 970a-ud3.

I tried calculating the power consumption, but results from cooler master and neweggs calculators are too different.
One says my PC will use 542w while the other says over 1000w.

[TKavatar]

Does anyone know if 600w PSU could handle R9 280x or R9 270x without frying other components?
My CPU is AMD FX-6100, ram is 8GB (2x 4GB), and mobo is 970a-ud3.

I tried calculating the power consumption, but results from cooler master and neweggs calculators are too different.
One says my PC will use 542w while the other says over 1000w.

 

Yes. 600W is more than enough. 

 

Which brand is your PSU btw?

[Fortack]

Does anyone know if 600w PSU could handle R9 280x or R9 270x without frying other components?
My CPU is AMD FX-6100, ram is 8GB (2x 4GB), and mobo is 970a-ud3.

I tried calculating the power consumption, but results from cooler master and neweggs calculators are too different.
One says my PC will use 542w while the other says over 1000w.

Those calculations are ridiculous. There is no way that setup is going to need anything near 500W under full load (unless you have like 35 HDDs installed or something). Don't underestimate the importance of having a solid PSU though, it's one of the most critical components - affecting performance, stability and longevity of everything else you put into your PC.

 

It's perhaps worth pointing out that there are two ways to look at power consumption. Power supply efficiency is defined as the amount of power actually provided to the internal components, divided by the amount of power drawn at the wall. A 50% efficient PSU that’s tasked with providing 50W of power to a system will draw 100W from the grid. The extra 50W is lost as heat. A 90% efficient PSU would draw 56W in the same circumstances.

 

So perhaps the 542W (calculation from coolermaster?) might actually be reasonably accurate, assuming it means the wattage your PSU pulls from the grid. Your 600W PSU is perfectly fine for all single GPU rigs.

[Typhrus]

While posted about my only set back being the GPU in the other PC thread, I took the opportunity to play BF4 for this week. While I normally don't trust 'auto' settings for games, it seems to have defaulted to high without I assume MSAA but with some form of AA. Not bad for an aging card like the 560 ti.
I should note I was never aiming for 1080p performance as I have an older 21" monitor, but it seems that 1680 by 1050 is fine for my gaming needs. So maybe I don't need to upgrade after all

[kipac]

Those calculations are ridiculous. There is no way that setup is going to need anything near 500W under full load (unless you have like 35 HDDs installed or something). Don't underestimate the importance of having a solid PSU though, it's one of the most critical components - affecting performance, stability and longevity of everything else you put into your PC.
 
It's perhaps worth pointing out that there are two ways to look at power consumption. Power supply efficiency is defined as the amount of power actually provided to the internal components, divided by the amount of power drawn at the wall. A 50% efficient PSU that’s tasked with providing 50W of power to a system will draw 100W from the grid. The extra 50W is lost as heat. A 90% efficient PSU would draw 56W in the same circumstances.
 
So perhaps the 542W (calculation from coolermaster?) might actually be reasonably accurate, assuming it means the wattage your PSU pulls from the grid. Your 600W PSU is perfectly fine for all single GPU rigs.

Thanks, that was a helpful explanation (and yeah, 540w calculation was from cooler master website).
I was a bit concerned 'cause I came across some stories about how some people with less than 750W PSU fried their components for using R9 280x.

[Fortack]

Thanks, that was a helpful explanation (and yeah, 540w calculation was from cooler master website).
I was a bit concerned 'cause I came across some stories about how some people with less than 750W PSU fried their components for using R9 280x.

 
You're welcome.
 
The R9 280x requires 250W tops (that's a lot even for GPUs - most manufacturers recommend a 500W PSU) so you should be perfectly fine with your 600W one.
 
AFAIK pretty much all components use protection systems to prevent heat damage (heat is the worst enemy of PCs) which automatically shut down your computer once it reaches its thresholds. You really have to try hard to fry your components these days.

 

PSUs can cause damage though (which is one of the reasons why having a high quality one is so important), but only when they break down. Wattage doesn't play a significant role unless you would argue that a 1000W one is less likely to fail than a 500W one (when used in the same system) simply because it doesn't have to work as close to its max capacity. Just remember that quality beats everything else. In your example a high end 500W PSU would be vastly superior to a mediocre 1000W one.

[janddran]

Does anyone know if 600w PSU could handle R9 280x or R9 270x without frying other components?
My CPU is AMD FX-6100, ram is 8GB (2x 4GB), and mobo is 970a-ud3.

I tried calculating the power consumption, but results from cooler master and neweggs calculators are too different.
One says my PC will use 542w while the other says over 1000w.

 

See this article about PSUs to better explain why you want more wattage than less, to include efficiency and future upgrades.

http://www.pcworld.c...wer-supply.html

 

Don't gimp on your PSU or cut it too close to the stock requirements. That is often a problem with pre-builts.

If the CPU is the brain of the PC, the GPU PSU is the heart and you don't want a weak one.
 

650W is a good baseline for a low-end to mid *gaming* PC and 750W may be better, depending on your setup.

 

This is a decent calculator (note that it doesn't include monitor or printer though)

http://www.extreme.o...culatorlite.jsp

 

Brand is very important too. I'm partial to Corsair (Gold series)

 

P.S. Note that your PSU diminishes with age. For heavy use it is recommended to go 20-30% higher if you plan to use it more than a year. 10-20% for lighter use <12 hours a day. You could get by with a 600 W especially if it's made well. I would monitor it as it ages though.

[teh DRUMPf!!]

 'Think I am gonna cop a Lenovo Y50 this weekend. That should run DA:I, right?

[Dragon Age Inquisition]

4096MB RAM

DX 10.1

Pentium® Dual-Core CPU E5400 @2.70GHz (2 CPUs)

Windows 7 64 Bit

ATI Radeon HD 4600 Series

 

Will I be able to play this on lowest? I can play The Witcher 2 on medium/high and Battlefield 3/4 on medium. Can play all previous DA games almost maxed out.

 

Funny thing is when I run thoese "Can you run this game" programs, they say that my PC won't even be able to start the game, but I can still play it on medium/high. Like Witcher 2, GTA 4, Battlefield 3, Prototype 2 etc..

[naughty99]

 'Think I am gonna cop a Lenovo Y50 this weekend. That should run DA:I, right?

 

For around the same price, you can get a laptop with 970m that will be more futureproofed for demanding games over the next few years. Much better than the 860m.

[theacefes]

 

4096MB RAM

DX 10.1

Pentium® Dual-Core CPU E5400 @2.70GHz (2 CPUs)

Windows 7 64 Bit

ATI Radeon HD 4600 Series

 

Will I be able to play this on lowest? I can play The Witcher 2 on medium/high and Battlefield 3/4 on medium. Can play all previous DA games almost maxed out.

 

Funny thing is when I run thoese "Can you run this game" programs, they say that my PC won't even be able to start the game, but I can still play it on medium/high. Like Witcher 2, GTA 4, Battlefield 3, Prototype 2 etc..

 

 

You're below the minimum specs on the CPU and graphics card and you've barely made the RAM. You could *try* to run it but it doesn't look promising.

[Dragon Age Inquisition]

You're below the minimum specs on the CPU and graphics card and you've barely made the RAM. You could *try* to run it but it doesn't look promising.

 

I'm just wondering if I can launch the game at all? I bought Watch Dogs and Shadow of Mordor and I can't play either of them because they need DX11 and Radeon HD 4600 is DX 10.1 max.

[kipac]

Yes. 600W is more than enough. 
 
Which brand is your PSU btw?

It's from cooler master, which I've been using for some years.

See this article about PSUs to better explain why you want more wattage than less, to include efficiency and future upgrades.
http://www.pcworld.c...wer-supply.html
 
Don't gimp on your PSU or cut it too close to the stock requirements. That is often a problem with pre-builts.
If the CPU is the brain of the PC, the GPU is the heart and you don't want a weak one.
 
650W is a good baseline for a low-end to mid *gaming* PC and 750W may be better, depending on your setup.
 
This is a decent calculator (note that it doesn't include monitor or printer though)
http://www.extreme.o...culatorlite.jsp
 
Brand is very important too. I'm partial to Corsair (Gold series)
 
P.S. Note that your PSU diminishes with age. For heavy use it is recommended to go 20-30% higher if you plan to use it more than a year. 10-20% for lighter use <12 hours a day. You could get by with a 600 W especially if it's made well. I would monitor it as it ages though.

Thanks for the article and calculator. I should open up the case and check out more information about my PSU. All I remember is it's 600w and from cooler master. Hope it has at least 80 plus certification...

[Fortack]

I'm just wondering if I can launch the game at all? I bought Watch Dogs and Shadow of Mordor and I can't play either of them because they need DX11 and Radeon HD 4600 is DX 10.1 max.

 

Those two games are DX11 only. That's why they won't launch. DAI can handle both DX10 & 11 so that's not going to be an issue.

 

If your PC can run BF3/4 it should be able to run DAI. It will be bad, probably unplayable, but that's a different story.

[Fizzie Panda]

Here's my laptop now:

i7 2670QM 4-core @ 2.2Ghz

GTX 560m 1.5GB VRAM

4GB DDR3 Memory

 

How will I be able to run this? (For at least 2 weeks)

 

Also,

 

My new computer:

i7 5820K 6-core @ 3.0Ghz

2x GTX 980

16 GB DDR4 Memory

 

Will Inquisition support SLI? If not, will one GTX 980 get good FPS at high settings?

[MarchWaltz]

My new card came in. My specs are now:

 

GTX 970 Gigabyte G1 gaming edition

FX- 8350 eight cores @ 4.0ghz

16gb ram @1600

[Kinthalis ThornBlade]

Here's my laptop now:

i7 2670QM 4-core @ 2.2Ghz

GTX 560m 1.5GB VRAM

4GB DDR3 Memory

 

How will I be able to run this? (For at least 2 weeks)

 

Also,

 

My new computer:

i7 5820K 6-core @ 3.0Ghz

2x GTX 980

16 GB DDR4 Memory

 

Will Inquisition support SLI? If not, will one GTX 980 get good FPS at high settings?

 

Frostbite supports SLI so it should be fine. A single GTX 980 should be able to max this game at over 60 FPS at 1440p (2k). With two in SLI you should be able to do 4K.

[Fizzie Panda]

Frostbite supports SLI so it should be fine. A single GTX 980 should be able to max this game at over 60 FPS at 1440p (2k). With two in SLI you should be able to do 4K.

sweet thanks

[Allaiya]

Ok, below are my pc stats. I'm not very tech savvy but I'd like to be able to play DAI on PC on High settings if possible. Could someone tell me how likely this is or what I'd need to upgrade to make this possible?

 

I'm already planning on upgrading my memory card to a Nvidia GTX 680.

 

Processor

Intel® Core™ i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz

Memory (RAM)

6.00 GB

Graphics

ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series

Gaming graphics

3839 MB Total available graphics memory

Primary hard disk

559GB Free (1397GB Total)

 

 

[theacefes]

Ok, below are my pc stats. I'm not very tech savvy but I'd like to be able to play DAI on PC on High settings if possible. Could someone tell me how likely this is or what I'd need to upgrade to make this possible?

 

I'm already planning on upgrading my memory card to a Nvidia GTX 680.

 

Processor

Intel® Core™ i7 CPU 920 @ 2.67GHz

Memory (RAM)

6.00 GB

Graphics

ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series

Gaming graphics

3839 MB Total available graphics memory

Primary hard disk

559GB Free (1397GB Total)

 

I'd say you'd be on Medium settings, possibly be able to push High if you grab a newer graphics card but your processor is probably what is going to bottleneck you.