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[VonAnsorge]

right now I changed it to 1440 X 900 because of a Sims 4 issue

 

 

I think you should be able to get somewhat stable 30 FPS gameplay if you will settle for lowest settings.

[deuce985]

Anyone know anything about protecting your PC with things like UPS and surge protectors? I have a pretty good SP but I want something more powerful and was thinking about upgrading to a UPS. I just built my PC and would like to protect the investment so why not spend a little extra. I get a lot of power surges where I live especially now with the cold fronts moving through. I basically live in the sticks so it's common for stuff to fall on my power lines. The problem I have is SPs only protect against direct surges and they don't protect against things like brownouts or voltage fluctuations in your PC. A UPS can monitor the voltage going into whatever is plugged into it, has battery backup, brownout protection and surge protection. I'm just confused as to what to get.

 

I notice UPS have very weak surge protection which has me concerned. Do they have anything that's actually better than both SPs and UPS out there? Something that's great at everything? Seems the only drawback to UPS are surge protection is weak. I wouldn't mind having battery backup and voltage fluctuations being monitored though. Only reason I haven't pulled the trigger on a UPS is the low SP is turning me off. How much SP do you really need from things like trees falling on the lines? I think you can plug a SP and UPS together to get the benefits of both but it's not recommended.

[Regular Wise Guy]

Just want to say a big thank you to everyone on this and the other PC spec threads that have followed up with answering questions about specs and the like.

 

Been a big help reading through all this techno muble jumble, and I have learned enough to be slightly dangerous. (at least to my pocketbook).

Well now, this is what community is for!

     You, well everyone is very welcome! It was our community effort as well as honor to assist in whatever way we could so that our fellow epic, awesome gamers could enjoy themselves as much as the rest of us tech-ninja monkey nerds do with our PC's!

[EnergizerBunny211]

Anyone know anything about protecting your PC with things like UPS and surge protectors? I have a pretty good SP but I want something more powerful and was thinking about upgrading to a UPS. I just built my PC and would like to protect the investment so why not spend a little extra. I get a lot of power surges where I live especially now with the cold fronts moving through. I basically live in the sticks so it's common for stuff to fall on my power lines. The problem I have is SPs only protect against direct surges and they don't protect against things like brownouts or voltage fluctuations in your PC. A UPS can monitor the voltage going into whatever is plugged into it, has battery backup, brownout protection and surge protection. I'm just confused as to what to get.

 

I notice UPS have very weak surge protection which has me concerned. Do they have anything that's actually better than both SPs and UPS out there? Something that's great at everything? Seems the only drawback to UPS are surge protection is weak. I wouldn't mind having battery backup and voltage fluctuations being monitored though. Only reason I haven't pulled the trigger on a UPS is the low SP is turning me off. How much SP do you really need from things like trees falling on the lines? I think you can plug a SP and UPS together to get the benefits of both but it's not recommended.

 

If you're looking for a good UPS (complete with surge protection and battery-backup for use in case of blackouts, it gives you enough time to save your work and shut down your PC safely without physical damage or loss of information) then look no further than APC.  And depending on how much hardware you are running (if you're not running serious SLI or Crossfire setups) then you don't need anything huge.  A solid size (in terms of watts) to go with is 750...and that is being generous.  You can get away with 550 and still be perfectly safe with no worries...But if you want my advice, go with the 750...it's actually the better price/performance.  For all the hardware that computers are comprised of....all that gorgeous circuitry only takes up maybe 350 watts...computers these days are quite energy efficient.  Of course, you can go larger too.  In the past I have used UPSes that are up to 1000 watts (but that is/was overkill).

 

You can buy APC UPS/battery backups at any good Computer retailer (ie NCIX, Tiger Direct or Canada Computers).

 

Hope this helps.

[deuce985]

If you're looking for a good UPS (complete with surge protection and battery-backup for use in case of blackouts, it gives you enough time to save your work and shut down your PC safely without physical damage or loss of information) then look no further than APC.  And depending on how much hardware you are running (if you're not running serious SLI or Crossfire setups) than you don't need anything huge.  A solid size (in terms of watts) to go with is 750...and that' is being generous.  You can get away with 550 and still be perfectly safe with no worries...But if you want my advice, go with the 750...it's actually the better price/performance.

 

You can buy APC UPS/battery backups at any good Computer retailer (ie NCIX, Tiger Direct or Canada Computers).

 

Hope this helps.

 

I was looking at those on Amazon. Seems everyone recommends APC UPS. My only issue with them is they have extremely low surge protection but supposedly their ratings are lower because they handle surges a little differently so I'm not sure. They also seem to have a rather low Joule rating so if a surge happens bigger than that it's likely going to fry the UPS. I think they're only like 350-450 Joules. That's the ones in the $100-$200 range. Does anyone know the highest possible surge coming off your power line from something falling on it? A direct lightning strike you're most likely screwed anyway so that doesn't matter tbh.

[Beliar86]

Well all my specs are beyond recommended except one:  I'm using a 650 (plain)  2gb edition.  Is it enough?

[Elfyoth]

Okay so I am going to get totally new graphic system or whatever its called (noob at this), but dont know wshat the hell to tell them. Please somone can tell me what to buy to be able to run the game on Ultra? I mean how much RAM or whatever, cuz I have heared that the reccomended requirments are not going to run it on ultra, please somone help thanks =)

[Xeper84]

well we have first benchmarks: http://www.pcgamesha...k-Test-1142136/ it is in german but there are also some picts to compare different detail levels.

Basically if you want to play at max you will have problems with a 970 gtx and a modern i7... when there is action you will have something between 30-40 fps (with that monster pc).

They hope it will be better thanks to patches and driver updates...mantle rocks on the other side.

[The Loyal Nub]

well we have first benchmarks: http://www.pcgamesha...k-Test-1142136/ it is in german but there are also some picts to compare different detail levels.

Basically if you want to play at max you will have problems with a 970 gtx and a modern i7... when there is action you will have something between 30-40 fps (with that monster pc).

They hope it will be better thanks to patches and driver updates...mantle rocks on the other side.

 

I would discard these benchmarks (in fact I would just crumple and toss them in the wastebasket) as they have Msaa cranked up to the highest so of course it will severely curtail the fps of even the highest modern/recent cards. 

[The Loyal Nub]

Okay so I am going to get totally new graphic system or whatever its called (noob at this), but dont know wshat the hell to tell them. Please somone can tell me what to buy to be able to run the game on Ultra? I mean how much RAM or whatever, cuz I have heared that the reccomended requirments are not going to run it on ultra, please somone help thanks =)

 

If Nvidia you should be fine with a 780 or 900 series card for Ultra just don't crank the msaa all the way up like these German reviewers did which is pretty silly and unecessary. 

[MarchWaltz]

I would discard these benchmarks (in fact I would just crumple and toss them in the wastebasket) as they have Msaa cranked up to the highest so of course it will severely curtail the fps of even the highest modern/recent cards. 

Also, I am sure we will get drivers that optimize the game next week

[skjutengris]

Okay so I am going to get totally new graphic system or whatever its called (noob at this), but dont know wshat the hell to tell them. Please somone can tell me what to buy to be able to run the game on Ultra? I mean how much RAM or whatever, cuz I have heared that the reccomended requirments are not going to run it on ultra, please somone help thanks =)

 

wait for game to be out, check what people play with.

I dont play Ultra due to the game visually isnt worth it.

I find blur effects and such to be distracting when gaming.

 

I played shadow or mordor a 8gb requriement game fine on my computer as I removed a few of the settings that simply made my head spin.
5040x1050 single 290. you can play with many settings maxed if you lower a few that hogs the machine down with ok gear.

I use a 4670k and yes I OC it to 4.5ghz as your likely to be cpu bound to some extent than gpu bound depending what settings/resolution you play at.

 

wait for game, check out if you need better gear then.

Most here will have a good experience with their current computer.

if not its a good way to ensure the wife to say, well seems dragons needs me to upgrade the hardware and if she is a good wife she tells you she needs it first.

[Lebanese Dude]

Is it just me or is it a very funny coincidence that Maxwell is the name of the GTX 980M architecture... and also the default human male name in Inquisition.

 

My choice of Human Male for my 1st character has been verified by divine powers.

[darkmage84]

Anyone know if I am wasting my time trying to play this game with a dual core processor?  2.8 ghz?  I think video card is good enough (ati radeon 5650), but the minimum specs call for a quad core 2.5

[dchalf10]

@Darkmage.

Even in 2008 or 2009 when DAO fist came out I had an intel quad core q9450 which was 2.66ghz. Even when overclocked there was drops into the 30s in the cities with around 20npcs.

I upgraded to an i7-870 and doubled my minimum frames...that was years ago now though. From the benchmark site ia said that even with 1080p maxed there was still performance gains for each overclocking increment on the cpu. Meaning it is heavily cpu bound.

I would not even attempt to play thia game with even the highest end i3.

[darkmage84]

Okay, I'm going to buy a desktop in January, and will hold off until the to get this game.  Thanks,

[dchalf10]

Okay, I'm going to buy a desktop in January, and will hold off until the to get this game. Thanks,

Sounds best, there will also be better drivers and patches and possibly a sale on the game by then.

If you are considering getting a new pc get an ssd hard drive. At least 250gb. A lot of new games are 30-50gb and the games just run so much smoother and load so much faster. Game sizes have tripled but mechanical harddrives are juat as slow as always so I think if you want a smooth experience it is just as imprtant these days as a fast cpu or gpu. 16gb vram is also a minimum these daya if you want to get a bunch of years out of it. Ram is cheap though. You willfind 16gb kits for the same price or less than quite a few 8gb kits

[Keithian]

I suggest to wait for the 8GB 970, it's coming soon.

People here are giving such bad advice. There is no evidence that an 8gb is coming anytime soon, just like there is no guarantee a 980ti is coming soon. It's a guess like everything else. The best thing he can do is stop listening to these ridiculous benchmarks and AMD fanboys and wait to see tests against optimized drivers which nvidia will release soon. Then look at the true benchmarks when sites like toms hardware do their tests and then decide what you want to do.

[BSBNess]

Thank you for your reply.  I was on my way to work so I only could just reply now.  It will be enough so I could get a new card when I get paid on Friday.

[naughty99]

People here are giving such bad advice. There is no evidence that an 8gb is coming anytime soon, just like there is no guarantee a 980ti is coming soon. It's a guess like everything else. The best thing he can do is stop listening to these ridiculous benchmarks and AMD fanboys and wait to see tests against optimized drivers which nvidia will release soon. Then look at the true benchmarks when sites like toms hardware do their tests and then decide what you want to do.

There are some people who upgrade their graphics cards every year and others who prefer to upgrade only about every 4 or 5 years or so.

If you are upgrading or building a brand new PC, the GTX 970 is a great card, among the best performance on the market right now for the price. But 4GB VRAM means this one is not going to last 4-5 years compared to the 8GB version of the same card.

Already in 2014 there are too many games with very high VRAM usage, much more than what we've seen in prior years. Even Call of Daycare has VRAM issues.

If you are one of those folks who upgrades frequently, it's a good deal and 4GB vs 8GB VRAM makes no difference at all for most current games. If you prefer to upgrade only once every several years, then 2 or 3 years down the line you are stuck with an obsolete 4GB card when games are calling for 6GB to avoid stuttering. Even if you buy a second one or a third for 3-way SLI, you will always be limited to 4GB VRAM because the frame buffer is mirrored in SLI.

The additional VRAM isn't going to improve frame rate, just reduce the hitching/stuttering that can occur in these games when you run out of space in VRAM on other cards, particularly on these titles that eat VRAM.

Using settings like DSR/SSAA, even MSAA eats VRAM, not to mention games that use id Tech engine (Wolfenstein, upcoming DOOM4), games with poorly optimized textures or ultra high res texture mods (probably upcoming GTA V, Fallout 4), games with VRAM caching or graphics memory issues (COD, Lords of the Fallen).

When that happens, the old texture data needs to be switched out to make room and new textures loaded up from your drive and/or system RAM into the VRAM. Hitching or stuttering results from that slight pause when your texture data is getting switched in/out of VRAM, loading up from the drive or system memory, etc. With 8GB that is going to happen less often with these games than it will on a 4GB card.

[Kallimachus]

Hi,

 

So these are my stats:

 

Processor: intel i7-4770K @3.50MHz

RAM: 16GB

GPU: Sapphire HD 7950 3GB DDR5 with boost

 

I doubt I'll be able to run the game on ultra. Any idea what sort of GPU I would need to buy in order to run it on ultra?

I read online that HD 7950 can be crossfired with R9 280, anyone knows if that's true for all models? Would such a rig be able to run the game on ultra?

[dchalf10]

The vram argument is pointless when the site that these benches came from even stated at 1080p ultra with 4msaa the game used 2.1gb of vram.

Aka a 4gb card is way more than needed. Even at 4k it is extremely unlikely to use more than 3gb. Vram usage doesn't just double or quadriple because of the res, because the textures and other assets that are stored in vram remain the same regardless of res only buffering the 4k res adds a fraction more vram usage.

[skjutengris]

Hi,

 

So these are my stats:

 

Processor: intel i7-4770K @3.50MHz

RAM: 16GB

GPU: Sapphire HD 7950 3GB DDR5 with boost

 

I doubt I'll be able to run the game on ultra. Any idea what sort of GPU I would need to buy in order to run it on ultra?

I read online that HD 7950 can be crossfired with R9 280, anyone knows if that's true for all models? Would such a rig be able to run the game on ultra?

 

do not run crossfire buy a 290x or such instead.

single cards always are the better option due to better framepacing and less issues.

The 7900 series and Mantle isnt optimal but the 290 series are with Mantle.

sell the 7950 and find a used 290x or buy a new one.

a single 290x will have more fps than the crossfired 7950.

[skjutengris]

People here are giving such bad advice. There is no evidence that an 8gb is coming anytime soon, just like there is no guarantee a 980ti is coming soon. It's a guess like everything else. The best thing he can do is stop listening to these ridiculous benchmarks and AMD fanboys and wait to see tests against optimized drivers which nvidia will release soon. Then look at the true benchmarks when sites like toms hardware do their tests and then decide what you want to do.

 

amd already sells 8gb 290x the better option with Mantle as a bonus.

Nvidia has nothing to offer there as Mantle simply allows the better gaming experience.

If one really want a 8gb card that is.

[escapePlan]

Hi,

 

So these are my stats:

 

Processor: intel i7-4770K @3.50MHz

RAM: 16GB

GPU: Sapphire HD 7950 3GB DDR5 with boost

 

I doubt I'll be able to run the game on ultra. Any idea what sort of GPU I would need to buy in order to run it on ultra?

I read online that HD 7950 can be crossfired with R9 280, anyone knows if that's true for all models? Would such a rig be able to run the game on ultra?

I really doubt you wouldn't be able to run the game on Ultra to be honest. 7950 is still a beast.