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MASS EFFECT 2 - MAKO and RPG. GREATEST FAIL.


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CommanderShepard2183 wrote...

That One Russian/Asian Guy wrote...

AND! Where the RPG elements? 4 levers per Perk? Its a joke? OR you make ME2 for mobile phones? I see the verry, verry bad rpg from BIOWARE!


Um... You're going down a very, VERY bad road here, friend. You're not only insulting the people who are trying to explain why they took out the Mako, you're also insulting the people who MADE Mass Effect! You don't like the fact they took away the Mako? Fine, don't complain about it here. Don't even play the damn game! Have you even played the game, yet? For all you know it could be an improvement! Just seriously, I understand your concern, but insulting us won't bring back your precious Mako. Also, the Beavis and Butthead thing wasn't funny. Its not even a proper joke.


I going down? I think you choose and going down wrong way with that casual thigs. I won't buy casual  (not best) shooter. I want to buy nice sci-fi rpg (Like KOTOR or ME1). I don't want to buy the game with boring monotonous scan planets and casual shooter gameplay like interactive movie. I think the game LOST PLANET much better as shooter than MASS EFFECT 2. I think very old game STAR CONTROL 2 much interesting than ME2 as RPG. Thats all.

BTW. I dont like when main enemy is robots. Looks like main scenary writer play only with transformers too many years. ;)

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I like the Design of the Mako itself, but the controls and physics were a bit cacky, not to mention the explorable planets getting tedious after a while, I will miss the M35, but I am all for the Hammerhead

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....Really?

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Thasot wrote...

WHY? Why you remove the my lovely part of game - planet explorations with MAKO?! :( I love games like Star Control 2 and StarFlight. I think its better part of Mass Effect 1. I cry with crocodile tears. YOU KILL ALL GAMEPLAY! Right now ME2 looks like game for casual idiots who like play in games on i-phones.

AND! Where the RPG elements? 4 levers per Perk? Its a joke? OR you make ME2 for mobile phones? I see the verry, verry bad rpg from BIOWARE!


Ok well the way I see it is if the Mako was the highlight of your Mass Effect experience then you need to go back and replay Mass Effect before ME2 comes out.

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Whats that sound? Its like something whooshing, straight over the heads of most people in the thread.

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Thasot wrote...
... I don't want to buy the game with boring monotonous scan planets...


I agree, driving the MAKO just got interesting by the minute. By the time I was searching for my last league medallion and heavy metal, I couldn't contain myself for all the joy and interest of driving uphill with terrible controls for half an hour. 

Mass Effect is pretty much the best 360 game so far, but collecting with the MAKO was a nightmare.

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Wolverfrog wrote...

It sucks that the Hammerhead is DLC. RPGs are supposed to be single player. I don't have Xbox Live. I'm punished because I don't?

Would it have killed them to put this on the disc? Or maybe we should be able to download the DLC to a RwDVD via PC and then install it from that to the 360.

:'(


There will probably be a free 72 hour code for XBL in the box... a lot of good games seem to include these.

Modifié par EG NeoMorph, 24 janvier 2010 - 03:19 .


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Thasot wrote...

WHY? Why you remove the my lovely part of game - planet explorations with MAKO?! :( I love games like Star Control 2 and StarFlight. I think its better part of Mass Effect 1. I cry with crocodile tears. YOU KILL ALL GAMEPLAY! Right now ME2 looks like game for casual idiots who like play in games on i-phones.

AND! Where the RPG elements? 4 levers per Perk? Its a joke? OR you make ME2 for mobile phones? I see the verry, verry bad rpg from BIOWARE!


After launch, BioWare will release another DLC pack for Mass Effect 2[/i] that introduces the Hammerhead, a new vehicle in the Mass Effect[/i] universe. This agile hover tank features improved handling on rough terrain and maneuvers deftly in combat -- a necessity for players traveling across harsh planetary environments throughout the galaxy. In addition to this new vehicle, BioWare will release new missions and unique in-game items, including Cerberus Assault Armor which boost shields, health and heavy weapon ammo and the M-22 Eviscerator Shotgun

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You can get the DLC using a free silver account. You just can't play online without paying.

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 The MAKO itself was not an issue. The planets you explored were in most cases not an issue. It was the unfortunate combination of the 2 that caused the problem. While you can ignore the collection quest the first time through you do not really know what the ultimate reward is. From its initial description it sounded like there would be something nice though at the end other than money and xp you got nothing. Of course by then you found out that while driving over relatively flat terrain was fine as soon as you had any sort of rise to go over you ended up fighting with the MAKO to go where you wanted to especially as it seemed that many of the points you wanted to go to tended to be put in the worst imaginable places they could find. And then having to do that multiple times just really started the teeth gritting phase of frustration.

 Having seen the new exploration and planet landing part of the game in some posted playthroughs some of that frustration is gone. You only now go down to the planet IF there is something worth exploring. Mineral collection is done from space. And at least mineral collection now has a point in that you can research with those minerals. However the 'grinding'  aspect of mineral collection is going to be a factor here now. I can see that you'll be spending hours collecting minerals from planets and going back and forth for the item that allows you to collect them. How much you ultimately need I do not see yet but considering that some research is needed to improve your chances on the final mission it does appear that you will need to do some of this even if you do not like it that much. Hopefully for those of you in that category it is not too much. For us completionists I can see that easily we'll be spending 20 hours or so collecting.

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Quit crying, you havnt played the game yet. Judge once you're done. And if you HAVE played the game, you sicken me.

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CONFIRMED Items that are FREE for ALL new copies of Mass Effect 2 through the Cerberus Network

[*]New Planet   - Available Day 1 Launch[*]Zaeed Massini-New Squadmember Pic 1   Pic 2   - Available Day 1 Launch[*]Cerberus Armor + Cerberus Shotgun Pic 1  Pic 2  Pic 3    - Available Day 1 Launch[b]
[*][b]The Hammerhead- Drivable Vehicle  - Available shortly after launch

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If you do NOT buy a new copy of Mass Effect 2, and you want to be able to get DLC for your ME2 copy, you CAN download DLC, but you will have to pay for it.

OR

Spend $15.oo and buy the DLC network pipeline, "The Cerberus Network" which periodically will grant Free DLC packs here and there

This is why it just makes more sense to buy a new copy of Mass Effect 2, which is exactly the intention of the network, to make profits go where they should, to Bioware

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I can't believe I'm going to explain how to download DLC.... :o
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All you need to download DLC is an ethernet cable, which if you can read this, then you should be covered.
With that ethernet cable, plug it into your XBOX and make a new XBOX LIVE SILVER account.

That's Free
Yes, Free, so you shouldn't have to whine about that

Modifié par javierabegazo, 24 janvier 2010 - 03:37 .


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Thasot wrote...

Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien wrote...

verry, is that some kind of berry?


verry - its "very" with russian "R". Verrrrrrry :D


Try not to be bothered by people that are trying to be grammar fanatics but aren't even able to type their own nickname correctly... Lichenstien... I LoL'ed hard...

Also I'm with you on one aspect. While I do not miss the Mako I also think EA trying to dry the used games marked is fail. When I'm buying the licence for a single player game I'm used to buy the FULL game and not only 80% in the box and the rest to DL...
Well, >I< can get used to not buying games anymore - let's see how long EA can.

AND ME2 isn't much of an RPG any more. While the first part has been looked down to as a shooter with RPG elements, it's now basically a shooter with story.
Don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with a shooter with story. But please stop calling it an RPG!
It WAS a good move to get rid of the old character development. Let's be honest, it wasn't worth the points anyway.
So in ME3 I think they'll get rid of it completely and go the JRPG auto level up route.
They already removed the inventory, getting rid of char development ist just logical.

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Another one of these strange, almost mythical creatures who actually enjoyed the massive failfest called the MAKO.



ME2 not only has more RPG elements than ME1, but also BETTER ones.

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EG NeoMorph wrote...

Wolverfrog wrote...

It sucks that the Hammerhead is DLC. RPGs are supposed to be single player. I don't have Xbox Live. I'm punished because I don't?

Would it have killed them to put this on the disc? Or maybe we should be able to download the DLC to a RwDVD via PC and then install it from that to the 360.

:'(


There will probably be a free 72 hour code for XBL in the box... a lot of good games seem to include these.


No, it's not that. I have mobile broadband right now, not home broadband. I can't connect to Xbox Live at the moment.

Will the DLC stay free? As in, it won't suddenly start costing a week after release?

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Spaghetti_Ninja wrote...

Another one of these strange, almost mythical creatures who actually enjoyed the massive failfest called the MAKO.

ME2 not only has more RPG elements than ME1, but also BETTER ones.


Quiet, bioware fanboy! Any REAL gamer knows ME2 is CLEARLY a fashion show shooter-fest!

you'd know this if you weren't a consolde kiddy!

(did I miss any hater-cliches?)

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Wolverfrog wrote...

EG NeoMorph wrote...

Wolverfrog wrote...

It sucks that the Hammerhead is DLC. RPGs are supposed to be single player. I don't have Xbox Live. I'm punished because I don't?

Would it have killed them to put this on the disc? Or maybe we should be able to download the DLC to a RwDVD via PC and then install it from that to the 360.

:'(


There will probably be a free 72 hour code for XBL in the box... a lot of good games seem to include these.


No, it's not that. I have mobile broadband right now, not home broadband. I can't connect to Xbox Live at the moment.

Will the DLC stay free? As in, it won't suddenly start costing a week after release?


As long as you bought it new, I believe you get the codes, which make it free for you.

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Sir Richfield, if you think ME2's simply a shooter with story, then you're just a- oh whatever, it's not worth the ban

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Sir Richfield wrote...

Thasot wrote...

Sir Ulrich Von Lichenstien wrote...

verry, is that some kind of berry?


verry - its "very" with russian "R". Verrrrrrry :D


Try not to be bothered by people that are trying to be grammar fanatics but aren't even able to type their own nickname correctly... Lichenstien... I LoL'ed hard...

Also I'm with you on one aspect. While I do not miss the Mako I also think EA trying to dry the used games marked is fail. When I'm buying the licence for a single player game I'm used to buy the FULL game and not only 80% in the box and the rest to DL...
Well, >I< can get used to not buying games anymore - let's see how long EA can.

AND ME2 isn't much of an RPG any more. While the first part has been looked down to as a shooter with RPG elements, it's now basically a shooter with story.
Don't get me wrong, there's nothing wrong with a shooter with story. But please stop calling it an RPG!
It WAS a good move to get rid of the old character development. Let's be honest, it wasn't worth the points anyway.
So in ME3 I think they'll get rid of it completely and go the JRPG auto level up route.
They already removed the inventory, getting rid of char development ist just logical.


Uninformed post is uninformed. You really have *no* idea what you're talking about.

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What, sorry, did I hear something?



Must be the unnecessary amount of WHINE in these forums.

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The MAKO was fun for a little while.. exploring the planets with mountains as steep as walls was a pain in the ass tho, so good riddance.. HAMMERHEAD, PLEASE BE AMAZING!!

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wow, spelling freaks, its an international forum, so youll have people that dont have english as tehre first language, then it will also be seen in spelling and grammer.



so please stop whining about spelling mistakes, sad kids.

aslong as his point comesacrous.



as for the op: wow, im so glad the mako is gone, sooooo boring afther a few planets i had enough. saying it shoudnt be fun cause its exploring? its a game so it HSOULD BE FUN. wierdo :D

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Thasot wrote...

VettoRyouzou wrote...

1. The mako was made of fail Really it was and I can say that I just finished doing EVERY collection quest it stops being fun after the 10th planet. It was only ok during main missions when it didn't fight with you.


Exploration of planets its hard work! NOT FUN for idiots like Beavis and Butthead. And that verry intersting part of gameplay for any man who love sci-hi!


You sir must have a sad sad life.