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[IVI4RCU5]

As an atheist myself, I think that the role of literal executor of god's will on earth is a pretty cool one to have the opportunity to take on in a fantasy game.  Will I bear the responsibility uncomfortably and with humility, doing all I can to live up to the ideal I'm expected to embody?  Or will my arrogance about my chosen status eventually lead me to go mad with power, self-righteously abusing the influence the title gives me for my own ends?

But by all indications, the game will not definitively establish the fact that you ARE such a divine figure, or even that you BELIEVE yourself to be.  What the game does seem to be doing is presenting you with a situation where, because of something extraordinary about you, OTHER PEOPLE believe you to be someone special in THEIR belief system (which may or may not be yours too).  And I'd be utterly shocked if Bioware didn't give you dialogue options to express disapproval of the title that's been attached to you, even if you have to take it on for pragmatic political purposes. 

[AlexiaRevan]

As much as the Chantry rub me wrong and everything else . I do find this  idea  fascinating . I plan on playing all side so to speak . I will make my Qunari Amazon Princess as someone who doesnt want the Title . But I also plan on making a Dalish who will embrace the title..just to see how that will turn out to be .

 

Add to that , the new dialogue wheel (5 ****** OPTIONS OMG!)......is helping alot ! look at it nudging me toward the Embraaaaace   

[Vilegrim]

As an atheist myself, I think that the role of literal executor of god's will on earth is a pretty cool one to have the opportunity to take on in a fantasy game. Will I bear the responsibility uncomfortably and with humility, doing all I can to live up to the ideal I'm expected to embody? Or will my arrogance about my chosen status eventually lead me to go mad with power, self-righteously abusing the influence the title gives me for my own ends?
But by all indications, the game will not definitively establish the fact that you ARE such a divine figure, or even that you BELIEVE yourself to be. What the game does seem to be doing is presenting you with a situation where, because of something extraordinary about you, OTHER PEOPLE believe you to be someone special in THEIR belief system (which may or may not be yours too). And I'd be utterly shocked if Bioware didn't give you dialogue options to express disapproval of the title that's been attached to you, even if you have to take it on for pragmatic political purposes.

It's the but thou must possibility I object to, Totally and completlty rejecting it in favour of what ever faith the character actually holds may not be pragmatic, but it may well be in character for a devout believer in the Dalish pantheon, or a Dwarf who is proud of the Paragons,

[NedPepper]

I find it fascinating, to be honest.  It seems like the world treats you like a Christ like figure.  And the fact that can be a Qunari, Elf, or Dwarf just makes it that much more interesting.  My hope is that you can do everything in your power to abuse that position.  Because that makes for a fascinating role-playing experience. 

[andar91]

I'm extremely intrigued by the idea of being a leader, which I never really felt like before. The Divinity part is a nice touch, but largely incidental since that will vary based on character. My first character will be a Dalish Keeper, so...yeah. She will be politely Dalish...sort of like Merrill was about the Maker. Non-hostile, but definitely not Andrastian.

[Iakus]

Interested to see how the player can handle such a title.

 

Less interested in playing "The Shepard Inquisitor"  again.

[Eelectrica]

Seems like being the divine would be more trouble than its worth.
'Divine my crops aren't growing, please make it rain.'
'Sorry I can't control the weather'

'Divine I can't catch any fish, pls buff fish in sea'
'Can't do that either'

'Divine I...'
'I'm not that kind of divine dammit!'

[Medhia_Nox]

I will likely only have one playthrough (though DA:O was the first CRPG ever that I played three times) - and my Main will be troubled by the implications.  "It's unnerving." will very likely be my response to the dialogue in the latest Twitch. 

 

I might not go out of my way to suppress it - I might even use it from time to time if my backs against a wall - but I doubt my main will embrace it in a "cult of personality" way.

 

If anyone is familiar with "Jesus Christ Superstar" - a phenomenal musical - there's a song where everyone is begging Jesus to save them and he's trying his best to be polite and get away from them until, at the very end of the song, he screams out at them: "Save yourselves!"  If the issue is pressed - my Inquisitor will be very much like that.

 

In fact - I'm might go into it considering the story very similar. 

[prosthetic soul]

I don't like this one bit.  Divinity can only mean thing for the main character. 

 

Death and sacrifice at the end of the game.  God, It's going to be ME 3 all over again!  *rocks band forth and starts sweating profusely*

[Isaidlunch]

I hope we can abuse our status for trivial benefits e.g. having servants feed us berries while passing judgement on criminals.

[DarkKnightHolmes]

The more role playing possibilities, the better. I know I'm going to milk "The Herald of Andraste" for some of my Inquisitor's benefits.

[TheJediSaint]

I'm a bit tired of being the "Chosen One", to be honest.  I personally prefer just playing the guy who finds himself in the wrong place at the right time.

[Medhia_Nox]

@TheJediSaint: Every protagonist is the Chosen One really. 

 

Stories aren't usually written about victims. 

 

It wasn't like anything could happen to Hawke directly you didn't want to happen - that's still being a Chosen One.

[The Elder King]

I'm a bit tired of being the "Chosen One", to be honest.  I personally prefer just playing the guy who finds himself in the wrong place at the right time.

Which technically We are, unless we'll find our there's a Special reason for which we've been chosen for the mark.

[DiscoGhost]

the newest trailer kinda gives me the idea that alot of people are going to think of you as andreste 2.0

[IVI4RCU5]

It's the but thou must possibility I object to, Totally and completlty rejecting it in favour of what ever faith the character actually holds may not be pragmatic, but it may well be in character for a devout believer in the Dalish pantheon, or a Dwarf who is proud of the Paragons,

 

Well, if you're taking that sort of position then why would you agree to lead a group calling itself the Inquisition at all, given its past associations with the Chantry? 

This is the story Bioware wanted to tell, and it has certain features that place limits on the type of character one can reasonably play.  I happened to really hate the fact that Duncan murdered Jory for refusing to take the Joining, and would have loved to be able to back out at that moment and tell him he could take his chalice and shove it.  But that would have completely derailed the story the game was telling so I can't seriously complain I wasn't given that option. You'll probably have to settle for your character grudgingly tolerating others calling them the Herald the same way my character grudgingly tolerated being forced to imbibe a substance that guaranteed him horrible hallucinations, sterility, and an early death, without having any of that explained to him beforehand. 

God, the Grey Wardens have the most f*cked up recruitment policies. 

[Tootles FTW]

I'd be completely down for a game where you play as Andraste and see what happened from her perspective.

[Ubiquitous Che]

To be honest, I'm curious as to how it's going to play out in my first playthrough.

The character I have in mind will not be sympathetic to the Chantry. At all.

My main concern with this is how Leliana will react. 

[efd731]

I'm divided on this. The part of me that plays games is like "oh awesome, this could go in some interesting directions!" The athiest in me is like "dude, wat? No" and the part of me that likes RPG's Is like "for fux sake, we're getting forced into a role again? Damnit " because even if we can say(as shown by a twitch stream) "I don't wanna be the herald" everyone still calls us that, and that's the sort of thing that will irk me.

[frylock23]

As a Christian, I'll likely have some who embrace it and some who don't.

 

The way I see it, this is no different than sitting down to the table to play D&D and rolling up the party cleric or the time I made a Paladin of Kelemvor who was fanatically devoted to him for reasons of background.

 

It's a role in a story, not reality. Separate player/character. 

[LastFadingSmile]

I do think it's interesting. I look forward to being able to play off both sides of it. I don't remember ever really giving my wardens or Hawkes much in the way of a spiritual identity, but with this Herald business, I'm actually thinking that my Trevelyan I might make into somewhat of a believer, for something different. 

[efd731]

Ok...

They already did explain it in the last stream. Watch it when the Dalish elf declines the title of Herald of Andraste. I kind of love how quick people are to dismiss Bioware when they have provided evidence of the contrary of the exact thing they are being criticized for.

Anyway, Dragon Age is a fantasy series. Just because you are an atheist in real life, does not mean gods and demons and spirits and other things the various religions of Thedas are based on do not actually exist in the game. Also, who cares if you are playing a Dalish or Qunari and people think you are a herald of andraste? If Andrastians hear stories about what happened at Haven and see fade tears opening in the sky and you closing them, of COURSE an Andrastian is going to have a religious explanation concerning THEIR religion and not the beliefs of your PC.

Perceptions exist in real life and in Thedas. You shouldn't expect Bioware to meta-game their creation based on your religious beliefs or those of your character. "Oh I'm making a Dalish elf so how dare bioware have characters think I'm blessed by Andraste! My character doesn't belief in Andraste!" Yeah - exactly, that's already been addressed in the footage we've seen and is likely to be a theme in the game.

It makes perfect sense because it's based on peoples perceptions of the Inquisitor, the inquisition and the events in the game. How you deal with those perceptions is likely a significant part of the gameplay and story...

What you're ignoring is that in that game footage, after saying "don't call me herald" two of the characters with you immediately refer to you as herald. Saying you don't like the title isn't much of a + in bioware's favor if the rest of the game still has everyone calling you the herald.

[Darkly Tranquil]

Not a fan of the idea at all. My characters will be rejecting the notion as much as possible. I'm going to be pretty irked if I have to hear people calling my character "Herald" through the whole damn game.

[Jaulen]

As an atheist myself, I think that the role of literal executor of god's will on earth is a pretty cool one to have the opportunity to take on in a fantasy game.  Will I bear the responsibility uncomfortably and with humility, doing all I can to live up to the ideal I'm expected to embody?  Or will my arrogance about my chosen status eventually lead me to go mad with power, self-righteously abusing the influence the title gives me for my own ends?
 

 

I can't wait for an Arrogant Power Mad *BOW BEFORE ME YOU HEATHENS!* (sorry......I got overcome there for a moment) playthrough.....

 

Would be especially delicious to play that way as an elf.....*You deny my divinity! Off with that Heretic Sister's head!*

 

*gleefully rubs hands together at thought of taking on the mantle of divinity and using it to chop heads off of those that ensalved and imprisioned her people.....all in the name of their own god! *mwahahahahaha**

[DalishRanger]

It's certainly an intriguing concept, and I imagine my different Inquisitors will be handling it in different ways, for different reasons. I imagine my Dalish will bluntly strike it down whenever possible, while I can see my dwarf and qunari having a mixed tolerance for it to take advantage of the status, but not actively encouraging it either. Not sure yet how devout my human will be, if she's a believer at all, so it'll be interesting when I get to her play and see what comes of it...