Just a different label for a "special one" that you get to role play. One of my characters became a god in Baldur's Gate II. This recent game has a milder premise in comparison.
Anyone else intrigued by the idea of being a "divine figure"?
#101
Posté 17 octobre 2014 - 04:40
#102
Posté 17 octobre 2014 - 04:42
I like this idea. Move over Andraste, move over Divine, it's time for a guy to take the reigns and become the leading figure in your petty female-centric religion!
#103
Posté 17 octobre 2014 - 04:45
I kinda like it. I like the idea of a character who knows the notion is absurd but will play up to it and happily milk it for all it's worth anyway.
#104
Posté 17 octobre 2014 - 05:59

"Humanity has always looked to Fade for its true path,We stood at the edge of destruction, and would have fallen, if not for the might of the God-Emperor and his Messengers of Death." - From The rise of Men by Servius Trenus, 10:13 Imperial
So..Yeah, I'm super ok with this whole Herald business. ![]()
#105
Posté 17 octobre 2014 - 09:18
Just a different label for a "special one" that you get to role play. One of my characters became a god in Baldur's Gate II. This recent game has a milder premise in comparison.
Yes, but back then, you had a choice about it. Will we have one in DAI?
#106
Posté 17 octobre 2014 - 09:41
Yes, but back then, you had a choice about it. Will we have one in DAI?
Will you have a choice about what you call yourself, or what people call you?
The former is understandable and there is little reason to not have various options in how you approach being a religious icon... The latter is also understandable, but I see few legitimate reasons why people(even fictional people) would switch to calling you whatever you want to be called. "They like you enough to care about your feelings on the matter", "mind control", and "you will murder them if they don't address you properly" are the only ones I can come up with...
#107
Posté 17 octobre 2014 - 10:03
So the inquisitor doesn't know who the glowing woman is?
She didn't speak or introduce herself?
#108
Posté 18 octobre 2014 - 02:02
The Inquisitor isn't Jesus. Not everything is going to match.
The Last Supper parallel is to evoke a holy feeling is all. A meeting of fellows, apostles to the cause that the Inquisitor represents and leads. The Inquisitor is the herald of something, whether spiritual or not. Bioware has done this stuff since DAO/ME1, or maybe before that. Its not new. To them, religious material seems to be a great artistic source. And it should be - some of the greatest works of art were religiously inspired.
-An agnostic atheist
- FrontlinerDelta aime ceci
#109
Posté 18 octobre 2014 - 02:44
I hope my pro-Chantry Inquisitor gets angel wings and an aureola.
#110
Posté 18 octobre 2014 - 02:47
Yes, but back then, you had a choice about it. Will we have one in DAI?
As a bhaalspawn you were already a "divine figure", no choice there.
Here you're an average joe accidentally bestowed with a special power. People in Thedas then make their own assumptions based on personal belief. It seems to be an interesting premise that flows naturally with the state of this fantasy world.
This story draws more attention because it echoes beliefs and circumstances from real life, and the marketing machine is certainly not shy from that impression. But I don't read too much into it. It's just a game with an interesting story that I wish to enjoy.
#111
Posté 18 octobre 2014 - 02:50
If I construct the experience through the eyes of medieval cultures and their very different views/understanding on religion to now and it's importance in almost every sphere of life... I can almost understand why they went this route from the information we have.
But from the "take my money" modern perspective as a consumer wanting a satisying experience, the idea of being saddled with some (extreme conclusion) messianic status is a turn off. Not tonight dear.
Hopefully it's tactfully balanced.
#112
Posté 18 octobre 2014 - 03:54
I hope you all realize, most people are most inspired by people who deny Titles and Power. So by denying the Title of Herald you should expect some people to believe you ARE the Herald even MORE.
- Harshfacts, SwobyJ et FrontlinerDelta aiment ceci
#113
Posté 18 octobre 2014 - 04:03
One thing in the writing of the DA series I have found thus far is that it has been far more balanced and less typical in dealing with religion than much of what is seen in film or TV, and that includes writers I enjoy such as Joss Whedon, IMO.
#114
Posté 18 octobre 2014 - 04:31
I'm Ok with it. I play games more for the story and it's implications and logic/continuity then any RP'ing that might exist so I can't wait to see if people think of me as the literal andraste or just some figure head do gooder who doesn't know the real people.
#115
Posté 18 octobre 2014 - 04:49
That's why I'm gonna try to pick the hyper hilarious options, seeing as I'm either gonna be a dwarf or a qunari
one race that literally cannot touch magic, the other with a whole other notion entirely
When I play my human templar, I'm gonna loooooooove hamming it up
#116
Posté 18 octobre 2014 - 05:03
I'm very interested in seeing how it plays out story and choice wise. Both my Dragon Age "canon" protagonists have been more or less religious and supported the Chantry to one extent or another, and I don't expect my main in DA:I to be any different. I expect he'll embrace the role and responsibilities thrusts upon him and will attempt to use his powers to not only defend the ideals he holds rightous, but also will hopefully be able to influence change in the more wayward elements of the chantry and Templars.
As others have said, as long as Bioware gives us plenty of options in how to deal with being named the Herald, then this should be a fun aspect of the game to experience.
#117
Posté 18 octobre 2014 - 05:48
If only I could separate being "Herald of Andraste" from belief in the Maker. Andraste is an inspiring figure I wouldn't mind being connected to. Meanwhile, the idea of helping to spread worship of the Maker is....less than appealing.
#118
Posté 18 octobre 2014 - 06:08
took me a while to come around. But as long as i can abuse it i'm happy.
for example...........
chantry mother: "magic must serve man never rule him"
Inquisitor: "actually it's magic, Must rule to serve man."
chantry mother: "what? no it doesn't, look right hear i can prove it read this"
Inquisitor: "By the maker you dare question the Herald of andraste? off with her head she speaks heresy............ and you there that's a mighty fine looking coat your wearing, can i have it?"
man in mighty fine looking coat: "what? this is my only coat without it i'll freeze to death"
Inquisitor: "but does the maker not say, though must givith thoest lastest coat, toith the herald?"
Man in mighty fine looking coat: "you can not be serious? you can't do this this is an abuse of power"
Inquisitor: "I'm sorry i don't think I heard you right, are you questioning the herald of andraste?"
Man in mighty fine looking coat: "what? oh marker no...no..i... here just take"
Inquisitor: "why thank for your........generosity, i thank you, Andraste thanks you and the maker thanks you"
Feezing man: "nnnnnooooo....nnno... ttthhannkk... youuuuu... He..he...herrrrallldddd"
- SwobyJ aime ceci
#119
Posté 18 octobre 2014 - 07:02
I completed all the avatar challenges in Ultima IV.
I consider Ultima IV an authority on the subject, and according to that game, I am now a divine perfect person.
The very same Avatar who will go on to murder small children and check their bodies for loot? Kill innocent people so you can use them to perform necromantic rituals? Raise demons from the Abyss?
The Avatar, truly a shining beacon of the 8 virtues!
#120
Posté 18 octobre 2014 - 07:50
You know, it would be a hell of a rpg game if you could balance inside hostile faction as a blood mage with a goal to steer those zealots to their own destruction. Oh man, so many choices and decisions. Do I use blood magic to convert this follower at my will or do I try to convince him/her with coercion or do nothing at all? And how those decisions affect future outcomes? Just cool.What better way to do this than from within? If Bioware made this Herald of Andraste thing right, you can embrace the role, destroy the chantry and the templars - and at the end of the day - save the world. Who will question the one who saved the world itself? Your authority and power will be absolute as you walk over the ashes of the last burnt down chantry and whisper "suckers"
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Believe me - I thought this through and my character will be a super anti-theist. You are basically fighting fire with fire by pretending to be the Herald of Andraste and destroy everything she stands for, but as you save the world noone will question you. You are completely free to absolutely obliterate the chantry and any other opposition under divine authority you dont even believe in. Think about the possibilities!
#121
Posté 18 octobre 2014 - 12:18
We don't know yet, but I guess the answer is no.So the inquisitor doesn't know who the glowing woman is?
She didn't speak or introduce herself?
#122
Posté 18 octobre 2014 - 12:43
Good luck.
iot's easy, if people kee pcalling me HoA I stop closing rifts. Probably means a game over, but I will not bend on that,. (At least for that character)
#123
Posté 18 octobre 2014 - 01:20
I hope you all realize, most people are most inspired by people who deny Titles and Power. So by denying the Title of Herald you should expect some people to believe you ARE the Herald even MORE.
You've been watching too much Life of Brian.
"Only the true messiah denies his divinity."
#124
Posté 18 octobre 2014 - 03:36
If we can do that I'm SO going to screw around with the chantry just to harass them! ![]()
#125
Posté 18 octobre 2014 - 04:40
You've been watching too much Life of Brian.
"Only the true messiah denies his divinity."
That is how history determines great men, those who are truly worthy. Look at George Washington. The man could have been King of America, but refused, despite everyone dropping to their knees, practically begging him. Because of that reluctance, everyone reveres his integrity. Look at Julius Caeser. Mark Anthony offered him the title of King of Rome. He denied it, several times. The people embraced him for it, and became Dictator for life.
Those who deny, are regarded as the ones who most deserve it.
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