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[TheRevanchist]

It bugs me quite a bit. We finally get a Divine that was proactive, and reasonable, then Bioware goes and blows her up. It's like they went out of there way to make the situation literally as bleak and hopeless as possible. Removing everyone with a level head from a position of power. 

[Xilizhra]

It bugs me quite a bit. We finally get a Divine that was proactive, and reasonable, then Bioware goes and blows her up. It's like they went out of there way to make the situation literally as bleak and hopeless as possible. Removing everyone with a level head from a position of power. 

Fiona's still good.

[The Elder King]

Fiona's still good.

Not necessarily.

[TheRevanchist]

Fiona's still good.

 

Fiona is a warmonger, I hope I have the chance to end her.

[Little Princess Peach]

Random peasant: you have been blessed by the maker

Inquisitor: wow this wont end badly in any shape or form....

[herkles]

I am curious where is everyone getting the idea that Justinia the fifth is dead?

 

And if she is, wouldn't that mean we get a chance to maybe determine who the next divine might be?

[Lingvort]

 

Anyone else intrigued by the idea of being a "divine figure"?

 

*in Arishok's voice*

 

No.

[The Elder King]

Fiona is a warmonger, I hope I have the chance to end her.

She might be dead already (Which is what I meant in my first post).

I am curious where is everyone getting the idea that Justinia the fifth is dead?
 
And if she is, wouldn't that mean we get a chance to maybe determine who the next divine might be?

Bioware devs.

[TheRevanchist]

I am curious where is everyone getting the idea that Justinia the fifth is dead?

 

And if she is, wouldn't that mean we get a chance to maybe determine who the next divine might be?

 

Apparently she was at the Peace Summit that gets terrorist bombed, that your character who at that point is a nobody who just happend to be there, because reasons. 

[TheRevanchist]

Also I wonder, why does everyone assume Cassandra and Lelinanna's titles as hands of the Divine no longer apply? I doubt that type of Title is reserved for only the reign of a single Divine, given how amazing your actions must be in order to achieve such a title. I recall in the movie, the Divine declares "From this moment onwards, you are the Right Hand of the Divine." That is imo an important distinction, if it was reserved just for that Divine her wording would be different. "You are my Right Hand" for example.

[Iakus]

I am curious where is everyone getting the idea that Justinia the fifth is dead?

 

And if she is, wouldn't that mean we get a chance to maybe determine who the next divine might be?

 

The breach apparantly opens up during a peace summit between the Chantry, mages, and Templars.  Leaders on all three sides are apparantly killed.  In fact, the Inquisitor is the only survivor.

 

I believe the Divine is chosen by a conclave of Grand Clerics from across Thedas (minus Tevinter, of course).  I'm sure if the Inquisitor wants to dabble in Chantry politics, you can nudge things your way.

[Iakus]

Also I wonder, why does everyone assume Cassandra and Lelinanna's titles as hands of the Divine no longer apply? I doubt that type of Title is reserved for only the reign of a single Divine, given how amazing your actions must be in order to achieve such a title. I recall in the movie, the Divine declares "From this moment onwards, you are the Right Hand of the Divine." That is imo an important distinction, if it was reserved just for that Divine her wording would be different. "You are my Right Hand" for example.

Given Cassandra's title came from Divine Beatrice III, Justina's predecessor, it can cross reigns.

[nialler]

To everyone who cries that Cass calls you Herald even after you tell her not to - what do you do in real life when someone calls you something you don't want to be called?  Get angry that god or whoever else didn't design other humans with your preferences in mind?

 

It's realistic that these characters would continue to follow their beliefs, even if it means they call you something you don't want to be called.  You may insist you are their boss and that you should somehow be able to fire them from the inquisition - but at that point in the game, I doubt it.  You have no authoritative power at the start of the game.  Maybe your title is something that causes a serious companion discussion later in the game.  We have no idea - game's not out yet, but doesn't stop people from projecting and complaining.  This is the BSN of course.

[Al Foley]

To everyone who cries that Cass calls you Herald even after you tell her not to - what do you do in real life when someone calls you something you don't want to be called?  Get angry that god or whoever else didn't design other humans with your preferences in mind?

 

It's realistic that these characters would continue to follow their beliefs, even if it means they call you something you don't want to be called.  You may insist you are their boss and that you should somehow be able to fire them from the inquisition - but at that point in the game, I doubt it.  You have no authoritative power at the start of the game.  Maybe your title is something that causes a serious companion discussion later in the game.  We have no idea - game's not out yet, but doesn't stop people from projecting and complaining.  This is the BSN of course.

Plus when someone asks you to call them something else it often takes you a while to switch.  If you have been calling someone a name and then they say, no I prefer X it might take you a while to start calling them X instead Y. 

[TheRevanchist]

To everyone who cries that Cass calls you Herald even after you tell her not to - what do you do in real life when someone calls you something you don't want to be called?  Get angry that god or whoever else didn't design other humans with your preferences in mind?

 

It's realistic that these characters would continue to follow their beliefs, even if it means they call you something you don't want to be called.  You may insist you are their boss and that you should somehow be able to fire them from the inquisition - but at that point in the game, I doubt it.  You have no authoritative power at the start of the game.  Maybe your title is something that causes a serious companion discussion later in the game.  We have no idea - game's not out yet, but doesn't stop people from projecting and complaining.  This is the BSN of course.

 

QFT, this, along with the Romance gating, is making me love their design approach this time. 

[Big I]

I'm interested primarily in using it as a method of accumulating greater power in game for the Inquisition.

[Revan Reborn]

It's intriguing and a little bit different for BioWare. In KotOR, I was just the really talented dude that so happened to be at the middle of everything. Well, that was before

Spoiler

learning that you are Darth Revan, Dark Lord of the Sith, and that your memories and identity were falsified as a way for the Jedi Order to control you. That made the experience even more incredible.

. In Mass Effect, I just so happened to be humanity's finest and was a worthy recommendation to have the honor of becoming a Spectre. In Dragon Age, I was just a spoiled child from nobility who happened to have everything taken a way and forced to become a Warden. For DAI, it will be interesting having many worshiping you as the Herald of Andraste. I'll determine how much I really like it based on how BioWare develops that story.

[Imported_beer]

Well, you know...my first video game ever was this game where I was quite literally the child of a God. A not so nice God, either. My paladin was the daughter of a God of Murder.

 

I used to joke that David Gaider was The Maker and I was his True Prophet, so the fact that I am considered a Herald of Andraste in the game is very amusing to me.

[Ieldra]

Well, you know...my first video game ever was this game where I was quite literally the child of a God. A not so nice God, either. My paladin was the daughter of a God of Murder.

The point relevant to this topic is that you could reject your status successfully at the end, or accept it in two different ways. Most of my characters accepted it, but it was important that the choice to reject it was there.

 

It is even more critical in DAI's setup, because unlike BG's, DAI's has higher applicability to the real world, which means that the absence of success on one path is likely to create a thematic ideological bias. It's bad enough that DAI's Big Bad distinguishes himself by rejecting the Maker the first time we hear him speak, as if that underscored his evil in some way. 

[Iakus]

The point relevant to this topic is that you could reject your status successfully at the end, or accept it in two different ways. Most of my characters accepted it, but it was important that the choice to reject it was there.

 

It is even more critical in DAI's setup, because unlike BG's, DAI's has higher applicability to the real world, which means that the absence of success on one path is likely to create a thematic ideological bias. It's bad enough that DAI's Big Bad distinguishes himself by rejecting the Maker the first time we hear him speak, as if that underscored his evil in some way. 

 

Given one of those clips we were shown, it is possible to reject the title.  And the Chantry even disavows it (I believe the term"heresy" came up)

 

The title seems to be derived from popular belief/superstition coming from the masses, not an official title

[HK-90210]

The more I find out about what happens with the Inquisitor at the beginning of the story, the less I see him/her as a Christ-like figure. To me, he/she are more like Moses. I remember reading in Exodus, "But Moses said, 'Pardon your servant, Lord. Please send someone else.'". That'll be most of my pious Inquisitor's reactions. "Seriously, Maker? You're sending ME?!"

 

And even my non-human Inquisitors will probably convert to at least some form of Andrastianism after the experience in the Fade. I've got at least one Inquisitor who doesn't consider the Dalish pantheon and Andrastianism incompatible, since the Creators were said to have come AFTER the creation of the world. Therefor, the Maker made them. Ergo, they are not gods, but they do exist and continue to guide the elves, so deserve some level of credit. Of course, this Dalish elf is the theologian of my Inquisitors. e thinks about it a lot more than the rest of them.

[SwobyJ]

Tho I am curious, how can your character realistically go from getting Cassandra's sword pointed at him for being some kind of weird freak that lived, to being the leader of not only her, but of a massive organization all in the span of what I assume will be at most 15 minutes of game time. 

 

So far, I doubt it'll be 15 mins.

 

Probably the whole first chapter of the story will be the Inquisitor more as a figure that the Inquisition can parade around to bolster support. The advisers and/or Cassandra may have more internal authority at first.

 

It may be after a certain early event or series of events that the Inquisitor comes into his own.

 

Somewhat similar to Hawke in that regard - he may be 'the hero' through most of the game, but he's only the CHAMPION after 1/2-2/3.

 

We'll see how it goes.

[SwobyJ]

It probably has something to do with the Inquisitor's ability to close tears and stabilize the Breach. From the little bit we saw in the recent demo, I think we start out at a more equal position with Cassandra and the others, with us developing into the primary leader over time as the Inquisition grows in power and notoriety.

 

This too.

 

It will be a combination of Chosen One, having a very very useful power, having emerging natural (or unnatural? just guessing) leadership abilities, and committing direct heroic/respectable actions.

[Siven80]

im interested to see if people react to you being a mage and the "herald".

[TheRevanchist]

i am curious how much this title will affect your interactions with the Chantry. Will they grow to embrace it over time, declare you a heretic or whatever else? it is a nice twist, to already have a title at the start.