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[Abraham_uk]

I watch a lot of comedians in many forms. From stand up, to game show panelists. From internet comments to that annoying guy who wants to be a comedian and keeps throwing their material in your face.

 

Anyway. There seems to be a huge debate about what kind of jokes are acceptable and what kind of jokes aren't?

In the "not acceptable" camp we have some, well nasty taboo subjects...

 

You know the sort of jokes I'm talking about.

 

1. Sexism
2. Racism
3. Disability
4. Assault
5. Murder
6. Abortion
7. Rape
8. Domestic Violence

etc...

 

I'm sitting on the fence here. While I don't like making jokes that might offend people, I feel equally uncomfortable telling people what kind of jokes they should not tell. But what about you? Should there be any restrictions on comedy?

[Abraham_uk]

Onision is a popular Youtube comedian who employs a lot of offensive humour in his videos?

Do you feel his comedy is acceptable, or is it all fair game?

[AutumnWitch]

jokes about jokes are a joke. errr...yea.

[FraQ]

In my opinion all jokes are fair game. Unfortunately, not all people feel the same way...

 

Good luck being politically correct nowadays.

 

Everything is offensive to someone.

[AutumnWitch]

Just remember the internet is "forever". What may seem funny and cool now might come back to haunt you later in life.

[Isichar]

Anything that physically harms people.

I don't care at all about being offended or offending others. If the worst thing that happens to you in a day is you got offended then you have things pretty good. Harassment is another story.

[CrazyRah]

I'm not going to tell anyone what jokes they should make. That's up to them to decide and deal with any potential consequences from doing so. 

[Liamv2]

Jokes that aren't funny are the only unacceptable jokes as far as i'm concerned.

[bmwcrazy]

Jokes that aren't funny are the only unacceptable jokes as far as i'm concerned.

I was just about to post this.

[Gravisanimi]

All jokes have their place.

 

[Cyonan]

Most jokes are free game, but you should use common sense for who you tell those jokes to if you're trying to avoid offending people.

 

As far as comedians go, it's a minefield of double standards.

[Cheech 2.0]

Rape, I just can't fathom anything funny coming from that. Things that hit too close to home usually do not chuckles from me, just my two cents.

[Abraham_uk]

Rape, I just can't fathom anything funny coming from that. Things that hit too close to home usually do not chuckles from me, just my two cents.

 

There are comedians that thrive on shock humour.

 

In the UK Frankie Boyle was huge at one point...

[SwobyJ]

-No joke in itself is off-limits.

-There is a lot of subject matter that is off-limits to many audiences.

-It is, however, the role of the comedian to test these limits, and outright challenge them.

-Going beyond the limit is a risk. Go for it, but know that your audience may not appreciate hearing about a subject at all.

-Onision gives me the creeps.

-Making a joke about something 'you should know better' about has a chance of backfiring. For example, doing a basic 'Huh, women should stay in the kitchen amirite?' joke just isn't going to get you any respect, at least unless you have it tied to some other element of humor or self-reference - which is something that Internet memes often succeed at, to the point of having women themselves make those jokes.

-What may sound funny now, may ruin you later, or at least be seen as problematic. But what may ruin you now, may become even massively popular later, or at least largely tolerated.

 

Most jokes are not off-limits to me, unless they illustrate a clear maliciousness towards others. (NOTE: Maliciousness does not = targeted. I'm all for people/types of people being targeted, as long as it is not with a malicious flavor.)

 

@Cheech - I've found that a lot of things that are close to home that I'm internally sensitive about, I am very able to joke about. This includes some rather dour things. But I've also not had some of the most traumatic things like rape, kidnapping, brutality, etc happen to me, so that's not something I can assume others will be good with.

 

I'm not very much for trigger warnings. Or rather, I think that once they gained steam, they became very overused. No one should publicly 'speak on eggshells'. I have nothing against the concept in itself, and I do something similar (though I don't use the specific code of 'Trigger Warning' before saying something).

[Isichar]

All jokes have their place.
 

GAH! I still need to play this! X3 damn I'm bad for saying I'm going to start something and taking weeks to actually do it..

[Colaman172]

All jokes have their place.

 

*snip*

Rinsider the following....

A joke about religion in Mecca...

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

[mybudgee]

[Nukekitten]

I don't much care for the meaner jokes that are directed at someone specific who's there, or at a group where people are primarily going to be hurt by it who are there - and the more serious the subject the less I care for it. I think that's just common kindness, common decency; you don't set out to hurt people, with your speech or anything else, unless there's a good reason.

 

I'm not saying I'd restrict someone's right to say it, I'm just saying if you knowingly walk into a domestic abuse support centre or the like, and execute the skit above... maybe you deserve the occasional slap. Not saying you do, but you know... maybe. Just putting it out there. You can't really claim that your intent wasn't to hurt people, or that you were completely unaware of the potential consequences of doing so.

 

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All that said, I think some people take things far too far in restricting speech. Arseholes are slap and tell to get out issues, (or don't go over to where the A-holes congregate,) not "LET'S GET SOMEONE; (ANYONE!) TO STOP THEM!" issues. There comes a level of silliness where you're getting massively disproportionate force involved because someone hurt your feelings that...  I just don't even know where to start.

 

I don't think that anything, if we disregard context entirely, should be not allowed to talk about or joke about. The ability to make things funny, I think, defuses many overly pompous situations and thus helps people think. And in that sense the more serious the situation the joke concerns, the better.

 

*she shrugs* :/ I've found jokes about pretty horrible things a relief sometimes, just for a break from the pain of thinking about the subject seriously.

[mousestalker]

In general, do not tell jokes that hurt other people. If you are a man among men, then it's okay to tell a joke about the things men do. Similarly if you are a woman. Then it's okay to tell a joke about men women. Jeff Foxworthy has made a good living telling redneck jokes, because they are, in a way, about himself.

Just remember to be kind.

[mousestalker]

 
*she shrugs* :/ I've found jokes about pretty horrible things a relief sometimes, just for a break from the pain of thinking about the subject seriously.

Emergency room personnel and cops generally tell awful black jokes for just that reason.