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[Texasmotiv]

I decided to stary leveling my Zither, partially to learn the class but mainly to get some Mage promotions going. I hop in a perilous match with another guy playing a virtuoso and a permafade Templar (apparently doesn't know where the block button is) and an Isabella. Orlesian Chateau/ Demons, we get to wave 2 and its a poison event. The other virtuoso, thinks its a good idea to run the torch all the way to the end. I follow as fast as I can but the templar and the duelist get rocked in the process. So its just two zithers and we sit there and just auto attack our way to victory. It takes muuuuuch longer than it needs to but I quickly learn that two zithers are pretty much invincible, aside from the risk of suicide due to the terrible frame rate that is. We successfully 2 man the entire wave and continue on. I'm surprised that the two others waited it out. We repeat this process for each wave, terrible lag/FPS drops with the zithers being the only that survive. We manage to keep isabella up through the demon commander fight and clinch victory, although it looked like the DC was just standing still the whole time. Maybe he was as confused by the flipbook FPS that we were getting as much as I was.

 

all in all, I like the virtuoso, but I don't think I can play him anymore until the FPS issues get fixed. (lets hope its fixed quicker than the keydrop bug).

 

Also, I am not sure if this has been pointed out, but it seems like if someone dropped while I was spamming barrier, the barrier went on them while they were down and would not allow anyone to pick the downed ally up.

[DrKilledbyDeath]

Sorry team last night, I know you didn't like where I fought wave 5 (Over here. Over here! OVER HERE!) but if the DC is mine to tank I'm going to do it on the stairs.

 

Also damn you baby dragons. Dragon is falling over dead and I assume my work is done, stand still while I wait and get swarmed by a ton of the little guys. They disappeared a couple seconds after they killed me.

[Jebbadiah Jenkins]

Also, I am not sure if this has been pointed out, but it seems like if someone dropped while I was spamming barrier, the barrier went on them while they were down and would not allow anyone to pick the downed ally up.

 

I never realized that the virtuoso/barrier was the cause of this,... This has happened to me several time while playing the virtuoso as well.

 

Many times I have not been able to pick up a downed ally and was left scratching my head as to why.

 

It's as if the revive/X button (Xbutton for ps4), just won't show up, is this the same as what happened to you?

[Kapsejs]

I got to be a big goddamn hero last night, jumped up and took an arrow in the chest to save a pug. Altruistic deed for the day - check!

 

[DrKilledbyDeath]

Oh I learned if you pick up gold as an arrow is coming at you, you duck under it and escape harm.

[Viking]

I can understand what you are saying but you should never rely on any class to keep you alive and if you are dead you are to blame 1st and for most for some mistake or other.

 

No, just no.

In an MMORPG, would you blame a dps for his death or the healer that failed to heal him? Simple, the healer.

 

I know this is not an MMORPG, but the party-mecchanics are pretty much the same - support, dps, tank etc.

[TormDK]

Penguin was kind enough to invite me to a perilous game which, much to my surprise, we managed to kill the dragon on.

 

I even managed to outscore him playing ZITHER!, while he was getting killstreaks as issy.

[Beerfish]

No, just no.

In an MMORPG, would you blame a dps for his death or the healer that failed to heal him? Simple, the healer.

 

I know this is not an MMORPG, but the party-mecchanics are pretty much the same - support, dps, tank etc.

How do you play when there is no bard, elementalist or keeper in your group?  Just lay down and die?  The number one person responsible for you being alive in this game is ...guess who?  You!  You expect another class to only use one of their abilities, especially a new class with many build possibilities. 

 

You learn pretty quick in matches if the keeper or bard are going to go out of their way to barrier you.  If not guess what you have two choices, play smart and live or die.

[SabreTastic]

How do you play when there is no bard, elementalist or keeper in your group?  Just lay down and die?  The number one person responsible for you being alive in this game is ...guess who?  You!  You expect another class to only use one of their abilities, especially a new class with many build possibilities. 

 

You learn pretty quick in matches if the keeper or bard are going to go out of their way to barrier you.  If not guess what you have two choices, play smart and live or die.

 

Exactly so. There are many reasons why a death could be on the deeps (dps gotten in over their head) and not the heals. In this game, if a person absolutely depends upon someone else to be their dedicated pocket body condom to avoid falling into the Fade more often than not, there are probably some tweaks they could make to tighten up their gameplay.

[Zehealingman]

No, just no.

In an MMORPG, would you blame a dps for his death or the healer that failed to heal him? Simple, the healer.

 

I know this is not an MMORPG, but the party-mecchanics are pretty much the same - support, dps, tank etc.

 

 

To be fair, most DPS die because they don't stand in the fire/voidzones, etc.

 

But I understand your point.

[DrKilledbyDeath]

Seeing as there is no healer in this game, DPS need to learn to keep themselves alive. It becomes a walk in the park when you do get barriers but if you use them as a crutch you are going to get wrecked.

[TormDK]

Seeing as there is no healer in this game, DPS need to learn to keep themselves alive. It becomes a walk in the park when you do get barriers but if you use them as a crutch you are going to get wrecked.

 

ZITHER! heals just fine.

 

I hope they add more classes to give Heal on Hit/Kill though, preferably a S&S warrior

 

*EDIT* Oh and another dragon down, and Dagger of the Dragon as a reward. Shame I don't play rogues

[DrKilledbyDeath]

ZITHER! heals just fine.

 

I hope they add more classes to give Heal on Hit/Kill though, preferably a S&S warrior

 

*EDIT* Oh and another dragon down, and Dagger of the Dragon as a reward. Shame I don't play rogues

Traditional healer would have been a better term, as you still need to do damage on your own to get the heal with ZITHER!

[Viking]

Hard to stay alive in Perillious if EVERYTHING kills you in two hits.

 

But if you give me full barrier, I can easily do even 30+ killstreaks - that should be better, for the whole party, than bringing a corpse around.

[Beerfish]

ZITHER! heals just fine.

 

I hope they add more classes to give Heal on Hit/Kill though, preferably a S&S warrior

 

*EDIT* Oh and another dragon down, and Dagger of the Dragon as a reward. Shame I don't play rogues

He does, but no reason why the bard MUST go heacvy on the barrier

 

Hard to stay alive in Perillious if EVERYTHING kills you in two hits.

 

But if you give me full barrier, I can easily do even 30+ killstreaks - that should be better, for the whole party, than bringing a corpse around.

There really is only about one class I can think of that has to be super skill full to stay alive on perilous and that is the Reaver.  most other classes either have good agro shedding or can generate their own barrier or guard.  As a katari or Lego you almost never need a barrier cast on you.

[Texasmotiv]

I never realized that the virtuoso/barrier was the cause of this,... This has happened to me several time while playing the virtuoso as well.

 

Many times I have not been able to pick up a downed ally and was left scratching my head as to why.

 

It's as if the revive/X button (Xbutton for ps4), just won't show up, is this the same as what happened to you?

Exactly. I posted it on the bug thread. Maybe they will see it and add it to the bug list.

[Texasmotiv]

Oh and another dragon down, and Dagger of the Dragon as a reward. Shame I don't play rogues

T.T

[Kapsejs]

 

*EDIT* Oh and another dragon down, and Dagger of the Dragon as a reward. Shame I don't play rogues

 

Gimme

[nibyl]

Perilous dragon dropped superb HoK ring

 

I've never seen anything like this...

[Kapsejs]

Perilous dragon dropped superb HoK ring

 

I've never seen anything like this...

 

Gimme

[HeroicMass]

I got a Lady Jacosta's Revenge from a perilous dragon.  It was a disappoint when I saw a Purple show up during the end screen.

[Kapsejs]

I got a Lady Jacosta's Revenge from a perilous dragon.  It was a disappoint when I saw a Purple show up during the end screen.

 

GIM- no, you know what, keep it, I already got one.

[Kungsarme]

This happens a lot, most of the time I don't mind using them, (I crafted about 20) but only if I think the team will actually make it, also, on Routine and Threatening its not really worth it, best you can get are Blue items (I think)..

if the team doesn't do the LoS route on zones 1-3, I won't waste a call. That simple.

[SofaJockey]

... LoS route ...

 

Presume that's not standing out in the open,

is a consensus forming about the best cover route?

[Kungsarme]

There is a very nice route that makes zones 1 through 4 very easy. The most difficult part is getting people to follow it as they try to rambo out into the open. Use voicechat and I'll tell people about the route, and still comes leroy jenkins for a party wipe. Truly frustrating.