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[Sylvius the Mad]

Wasteland 2 is nothing like BG2.

 

Comparing it to both BG2 and BG, though, really highlights the differences between the two Baldur's Gate games.  Wasteland 2 has quite a lot in common with BG.

[In Exile]

Comparing it to both BG2 and BG, though, really highlights the differences between the two Baldur's Gate games.  Wasteland 2 has quite a lot in common with BG.

 

I agree, from what I've seen of the game. Though I'd say Wasteland 2 focuses more on creating your own party than BG did. At any rate, it's not really my cup of tea and I only really replay BG because I'm a big fan of crossing through the entire series, even though I don't actually think that highly of BG1. Though I do like it more than IWD. A lot more. 

[Joe-Poe]

The OCs were bad to good depending on which NWN you're talking about, but I can forgive that for gems like HoTU and MoTB. 

The OC as in the one that shipped with the game....Hotu and MoTB was much better yes.

[Joe-Poe]

I vastly prefer NWN to NWN2.  NWN2 was a fairly broken game.  NWN played beautifully, and still has my favourite UI in the history of CRPGs.

 

I would recommend the OP play Wasteland 2.

Yes I also liked the game play of NWN to NWN 2...the combat was boring in NWN2 for me because they removed the so called "dance of death" and replaced it with barely there animations because some people where complaining that the dance was cheating them of a few attacks or what not....

[In Exile]

The OC as in the one that shipped with the game....Hotu and MoTB was much better yes.

 

Right. I meant that I could forgive the terrible campaign that came with the game given what it lead to in the end. Although shadows of the urentide (sp?) i thought was pretty crappy, and the last NWN2 expansion was something not even worth buying for me. 

 

I thought Bioware lots its mind when I played the OC for NWN. Just garbage. 

[In Exile]

Yes I also liked the game play of NWN to NWN 2...the combat was boring in NWN2 for me because they removed the so called "dance of death" and replaced it with barely there animations because some people where complaining that the dance was cheating them of a few attacks or what not....

 

NWN had better animations but NWN2 gave you full party control. I prefer party control, and both are pure 3e so bleh. I prefer 2e D&D. 

[NightTrauma]

It really depends on what you liked about old games. Wasteland 2 is nothing like BG2. It's just like IWD1-2, though. And those were very, very different games. 

Fair enough. My main point was they are all party based isometric RPG's. And if you enjoy those style games, particularly the fantasy ones, you will likely enjoy Divinity: Original Sin.

[In Exile]

Fair enough. My main point was they are all party based isometric RPG's. And if you enjoy those style games, particularly the fantasy ones, you will likely enjoy Divinity: Original Sin.

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Right. I get that. My point though, is that you're not quite right. I love BG2, for example, but loathe the ever living hell out of IWD.  Wasteland 2 would never be worth purchasing, but from the look of it PoE might be (I haven't kept up with how Obsidian will be handling companions and whether it's designed primarily around creating your own party). 

[Sylvius the Mad]

Right. I get that. My point though, is that you're not quite right. I love BG2, for example, but loathe the ever living hell out of IWD.  Wasteland 2 would never be worth purchasing, but from the look of it PoE might be (I haven't kept up with how Obsidian will be handling companions and whether it's designed primarily around creating your own party). 

It's not.  Being able to create your own party members was added as a stretch goal during the Kickstarter campaign, but the core design was always a single PC with joinable party members.

[Sylvius the Mad]

Right. I meant that I could forgive the terrible campaign that came with the game given what it lead to in the end. Although shadows of the urentide (sp?) i thought was pretty crappy, and the last NWN2 expansion was something not even worth buying for me.

I think Storm of Zehir was the only thing NWN2 ever did right.  I even got a rare boxed copy of that, so I have a physical SoZ manual.

 

 

I thought Bioware lots its mind when I played the OC for NWN. Just garbage.

I replay the NWN OC more than any other BioWare game.  I think it's terrific.  It has a blank slate PC, a terrific UI, a well-documented and flexible ruleset: that's almost everything I want in a game.

[In Exile]

It's not.  Being able to create your own party members was added as a stretch goal during the Kickstarter campaign, but the core design was always a single PC with joinable party members.

 

So PoE is really the spiritual successor to BG2 in a lot of ways then? That makes me excited. I heard every cool things about the mechanics (e.g. a high int-equivalent warrior will have low damage but some form of AOE, so these builds will be viable in a way they were not in 2e). 

[Sylvius the Mad]

So PoE is really the spiritual successor to BG2 in a lot of ways then? That makes me excited. I heard every cool things about the mechanics (e.g. a high int-equivalent warrior will have low damage but some form of AOE, so these builds will be viable in a way they were not in 2e). 

It might be safer to call it Fallout 2 in a fantasy setting.

[In Exile]

It might be safer to call it Fallout 2 in a fantasy setting.

 

That would make for an exceptional game, I think. I really enjoyed Fallout 2, even though I really loathe post-apocalyptic settings. 

[Giantdeathrobot]

Shadow of Mordor is a pretty wicked game. Not sure if it's entirely considered an RPG.
But I'm thoroughly impressed with it, compared to the past few LOTR games that have been released. 

 

It does have some RPG elements with runes and such, and the whole Sauron's Army system allows for lots of interesting emergent gameplay. But yeah the combat is just nothing like Dragon Age, even if its a great game.

 

Myself, I'd recommend Planescape: Torment, NW2: Mask of the Betrayer, Divinity Original Sin, and any of the Fallouts except 3.

[Rawgrim]

That would make for an exceptional game, I think. I really enjoyed Fallout 2, even though I really loathe post-apocalyptic settings. 

 

Arcanum is kind of like Fallout in a fantasy setting. Lots of bugs, though.

[SetecAstronomy]

I always go the counter-programming route. If Iam waiting for the new Assassins Creed game, Ill occupy my time with say LA Noire. For DAI Iam playing lots of Borderlands and Red Dead Redemption. Helps cleanse my palate.

[SparksMKII]

Tales of Symphonia for the gamecube is hands down my favourite (J)RPG as I've sunk over 300 hours into that, it had an engaging story, a good combat system and choices with consequenses, different endings and new game plus. Highly recommend that for people who need something to play whilst waiting for DA:I, you can even play it semi coop (the second player only gets to participate during the fights tho).

 

There's your timesink that'll hold you over, stay away from the sequels for the gamecube and wii tho those were a big letdown. 

[LeBurns]

I got Borderlands 2 GotY edition on a STEAM sale a couple weeks ago.  Been playing it since.  Never played a shooter/looter game before.  I must say it's different.

[Alan Rickman]

All this talk of NWN2 and MotB is making me want to reinstall for another full run. Though I'll probably end up with the same problem that I'm having in BG2: having the urge to play far too many different PC's, starting 5-6 different playthroughs and playing them all slightly past the tutorial until I can't decide which one I'll ultimately continue with. Then I just give up trying to pick one...and go "ooh, dat Bard looks fun doe", starting yet another new character.

[LeBurns]

@jobacNoor.  Re-playitis.  Hits me bad on all the RPG's.  If I had a dollar for every time I cleared that first dungeon in Oblivion/Skyrim/etc.  Or the number of times I did origins in DA:O and stopped after getting to Ostagar.

[LightningPoodle]

DESTINY!!!

 

... is terrible...

[Lennard Testarossa]

Arcanum is kind of like Fallout in a fantasy setting. Lots of bugs, though.

 

And just about the worst combat system anyone ever conceived of. (Come to think of it, a terrible combat system is certainly something it has in common with melee combat in Fallout.)