I killed him. He's an ancient Magister and responsible for heinous crimes, even if he doesn't remember. He was the 'Architect' he put the ritual together. Corypheus was the 'conductor.' They're monsters, all of them.
He does. Why do you think Velanna's (tainted) sister immediately vanishes and is never seen again?
Ah wait wait wait where are you all getting the original magister bit? (not arguing, I'm wondering where this juicy bit of info came from is all ^.^)
Ah wait wait wait where are you all getting the original magister bit? (not arguing, I'm wondering where this juicy bit of info came from is all ^.^)
An interview with Gaider a while ago had Gaider confirm that the Architect was an ancient magister. I can already imagine the rage if he winds up returning even after getting killed. More reason to keep him alive and friendly to me.
An interview with Gaider a while ago had Gaider confirm that the Architect was an ancient magister. I can already imagine the rage if he winds up returning even after getting killed. More reason to keep him alive and friendly to me.
Gaider never said that.
He said the character's arc in Awakening followed the same logic for the one used in Corypheus's story (before Inquisition was even released, so I assume he was talking about Legacy DLC).
And said arc is: the great revelation -the identity of the person behind all the mess - comes only in the end.
If Gaider intended him to be a magister, he'd have written so in The Calling.
In the book, nothing is ever stated that can lead to the conclusion that he's a magister.
This mistaken notion that he's one of the original Seven came to be because of his human like appearance in Awakening. But in the book, where he FIRST APPEARS, he's a regular, ordinary emissary.
The only fact we know about him and that hints at him not being usual at all is the fact that he's immune to the calling. But the ancient Magisters are dakspawn, so they can also hear the calling. Therefore, this doesn't help much the whole "Architect is a magister" theory...
What if the architect is actually the corrupted version of the Maker?
What then?
I let him live, seemed like the more interesting choice... all things being equal, at least you could talk to the darkspawn before you *murder,death,kill*
I killed him and probably not for the reasons most people do.
When I first played DAA, I hadn't read the Calling and Corypheus was still years away. However, the Architect's plan terrified me by itself.
Picture Darkspawn as just another race in Thedas competing for resources and living space. Except they're immortal, don't require sleep or food, their method of reproduction involves the horrendous rape of females from other races and each one can give birth to hundreds in her lifetime.
And we want to make those creatures intelligent? Hell No!
What if the architect is actually the corrupted version of the Maker?
What then?
Then he should use his almighty powers to remove that iron thing sticking out of his neck.
He should also fix that stretched skin on his face. I don't know in what aesthetic clinic he had his plastic surgery done, but the doctor sure as hell didn't know wtf he was doing.
And maybe fix that damn eye as well. That thing is just...ugh.
(Just kiddin'. I love the character as he is. 
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I killed him and probably not for the reasons most people do.
When I first played DAA, I hadn't read the Calling and Corypheus was still years away. However, the Architect's plan terrified me by itself.
Picture Darkspawn as just another race in Thedas competing for resources and living space. Except they're immortal, don't require sleep or food, their method of reproduction involves the horrendous rape of females from other races and each one can give birth to hundreds in her lifetime.
And we want to make those creatures intelligent? Hell No!
By your logic then even Humans, elves and dwarf must be destroyed, afterall even if they are not sick and corrupted they compete for resources, and they can make also horrendus rapes willngly however, not to mention the innumerable wars
Then he should use his almighty powers to remove that iron thing sticking out of his neck.
He should also fix that stretched skin on his face. I don't know in what aesthetic clinic he had his plastic surgery done, but the doctor sure as hell didn't know wtf he was doing.
And maybe fix that damn eye as well. That thing is just...ugh.
(Just kiddin'. I love the character as he is.
mine have the mask, i dont know why sometimes he do not have the golden mask.
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Hell yes I killed it. Talking Darkspawn. Coordinating without an archdemon kind of Darkspawn. Yo. Genocide. Sorry. There are still two more blights to go.
Hell yes I killed it. Talking Darkspawn. Coordinating without an archdemon kind of Darkspawn. Yo. Genocide. Sorry. There are still two more blights to go.
After the last two Blights are dealt with all Darkspawn will become Awakened since there is no more call to control them.
Is it possible the Architect is now Cory? It might not fit facts, timeline, but considering he tried to do something to the Grey Wardens. The Architect wanted to replace Grey Wardens with darkspawn lackeys after all. You fight through and the Architect looks disappointed, what he tried to do didn't work. Then the mother was flipping out because the 'song' didn't work. The song/calling only has a bad impact on anyone blighted or tainted. Or has a red lyrium sandwich.
Grey Wardens and dwarves used like puppets.
Edit: I replayed Legacy and Cory obviously (or seemed to) walk out in Larius, so it made me think how do I know if the Architect really died. The Architect could have been alive in Larius (not Larius but a tainted warden). The Architect tried to do something that Cory is now making full use of.
Just to add I killed him.
He's probably another magister who entered the Black City and has no memory of who he is. It would make sense that he considers himself 'darkspawn' since when he 'woke' with no memory all he saw was other Darkspawn. And why he has no idea why the Call doesn't work on him. Plus I swear they used him for Cory's character model, they look so similar.
I still don't regret letting him live, even back when I thought he was just a weird looking Darkspawn and didn't know about the Magisters. He clearly has a bond with the Darkspawn, and wants to help them. It's his purpose- I think even if he remembered what he is he would continue working to help the Darkspawn gain sentience and calm the hell down. That old life means nothing now, it's like 3,000 years in the future. And all the time he spent with amnesia would give him perspective, which Corypheus never had.
I kill him. I kill him every time. Caused me nothing but problems and death with his "oopsies, i guess that morbid experiment went wrong."
Making the Mother. Kidnapping people to experiment on them. No, with his friggin nazhi experiments.
fwiw, i free that intelligent darkspawn meesenger--as i promised. hope i haven't infected the countryside by doing that.
I let him live thinking it was a mind game dialog trap and left it that way in the keep to see if he shows up.
I've said it before and I will say it again, darkspawn are pure pestilence that must be purged from the earth. I don't care how intelligent the Architect thinks they are, they are still violent murderous brutes whose very presence poisons the earth and who have a truly horrible method of reproduction. Sure they may stay out of the surface world's way, but what happens when their population dwindles (as I doubt broodmothers have indefinite lifespans). Will the darkspawn just go quietly or will they continue to kidnap more females for reproduction? Frankly, that is something I am not willing to leave up to fate, especially knowing the Architect's plans from the Calling.
I've said it before and I will say it again, darkspawn are pure pestilence that must be purged from the earth. I don't care how intelligent the Architect thinks they are, they are still violent murderous brutes whose very presence poisons the earth
You could be describing humans there.
Killed him. Not that it matters cause he's probably still alive.
Well the codex "A Different Kind of Darkspawn?" has a dwarf be saved by an intelligent darkspawn.
Gaider never said that.
He said the character's arc in Awakening followed the same logic for the one used in Corypheus's story (before Inquisition was even released, so I assume he was talking about Legacy DLC).
And said arc is: the great revelation -the identity of the person behind all the mess - comes only in the end.
If Gaider intended him to be a magister, he'd have written so in The Calling.
In the book, nothing is ever stated that can lead to the conclusion that he's a magister.
This mistaken notion that he's one of the original Seven came to be because of his human like appearance in Awakening. But in the book, where he FIRST APPEARS, he's a regular, ordinary emissary.
The only fact we know about him and that hints at him not being usual at all is the fact that he's immune to the calling. But the ancient Magisters are dakspawn, so they can also hear the calling. Therefore, this doesn't help much the whole "Architect is a magister" theory...
http://shallowgraves...n-age-universe/
I asked David Gaider if the Architect of Dragon Age: Awakening is also a former magister, and if he’ll play a part in upcoming events in the DA universe.
“Yeah,” Gaider agreed, “he is the same type of character as Corypheus, absolutely. Whether he pops up, well, possibly. I think so… I mean, obviously not if you killed him.”
The interviewer outright asks if the Architect is an ancient magister and Gaider says yes. Don't know how else to interpret it.
I bet he's not dead anyway, even if you "kill" him. He looks like Corypheus, a magister and darkspawn. Corypheus can transfer his soul into Grey Wardens when killed (I assume Darkspawn too) just like an Archdemon. Except Corypheus' soul is not destroyed when it meets the Grey Warden's soul, unlike an Archdemon.
Thus I assume the Architect's soul goes into (or maybe he possesses) a Darkspawn or Grey Warden when you kill him. Better to let the guy live, work with him and teach him and his darkspawn followers right from wrong. That's better than killing him and leaving him with a bad taste in his mouth thinking that the people of Thedas are jerks and should all be killed.
tl;dr
Let him live because it's interesting, kill him if you want to be boring.
yes this , peoples really believe that the Architect has decided to show himself willingly to the warden commander without a plan B? This is impossible..
And by the way he is the one who had corrupted Urthemiel but sooner or later the main Horde it would have reached him the same.
Since Corypheus and the Architect are both ancient magisters, and Corypheus has the body-jumping ability like the archdemon, does that mean a grey warden is needed to deliver the final blow to make them really dead? And also shouldn't the warden in the Awakening be dead after he killed the Architect?
Since Corypheus and the Architect are both ancient magisters, and Corypheus has the body-jumping ability like the archdemon, does that mean a grey warden is needed to deliver the final blow to make them really dead? And also shouldn't the warden in the Awakening be dead after he killed the Architect?
Corypheus soul is not massive as the one of the archdemon i believe that this can be the only explanation to the fact that he can coexist with others beings, otherwise this is a gigantic plot hole, a magister servant of the old gods who is in fact more powerful than them.
HIS Body jumping ability is more effective than the one of the Archedemons
I killed him. I remembered how his henchman tossed that one guy off the roof at the beginning (when I first met the Seneschal). So, from then on, all speaking Darkspawn-type creatures must die. Easy-peasy...
Killed him the first time, let him live the second.
If he ever was to make it into a game I'd let him live for sure just to see how it all plays out. He's a quite interesting character, especially if read The Calling.
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