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#176
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Corypheus soul is not massive as the one of the archdemon i believe that this can be the only explanation to the fact that he can coexist with others beings, otherwise this is a gigantic plot hole, a magister servant of the old gods who is in fact more powerful than them.

HIS Body jumping ability is more effective than the one of the Archedemons

 

The archdemons are just dragons with a soul of  an old god. They cannot get better in fighting and increase their magical powers, they posses the limitations of a dragon body (mindless beasts) . If they were transfered to a mage body they would be essentialy indestructible. 

 

Corypheus on the other hands was a mage who icnreased his powers by adcquiring the taint and fusing himself to red lyrium.



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In my first DAO-A, I let him go...

Then I read "The Calling"..  

Now I'm killing him every time. With vengeance.

Do not negotiate with darkspawns (IMO). 



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In my first DAO-A, I let him go...

Then I read "The Calling"..  

Now I'm killing him every time. With vengeance.

Do not negotiate with darkspawns (IMO). 

Ideed. Too bad i let him live. But he will die if i meet him again :P



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Ideed. Too bad i let him live. But he will die if i meet him again :P

 

After I finished reading the novel, I specifically started DAO-A PT to slay the bastard. 

And it was totally worth it   :D



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The archdemons are just dragons with a soul of  an old god. They cannot get better in fighting and increase their magical powers, they posses the limitations of a dragon body (mindless beasts) . If they were transfered to a mage body they would be essentialy indestructible. 

 

Corypheus on the other hands was a mage who icnreased his powers by adcquiring the taint and fusing himself to red lyrium.

Mindless?  you can hear Urthemiel in the darkspawn chronicles, he is intelligent and can direct an impressive numbers of minions, the Archdemons are the old gods just corrupted and full of anger .



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After I finished reading the novel, I specifically started DAO-A PT to slay the bastard. 

And it was totally worth it   :D

And then it turns out you needed him alive to get the best option for a quest. Architect is Legion



#182
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And then it turns out you needed him alive to get the best option for a quest. Architect is Legion

 

How so?

Battle with The Mother was slightly more difficult, but... Well, I'm intrigued.

Could you please elaborate more?



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TevinterSupremacist

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Such a rare creature and so creative and intelligent, who in their right minds wouldn't let him live?



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Such a rare creature and so creative and intelligent, who in their right minds wouldn't let him live?

I'm just doing my part to make rare things extinct.



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I usually kill him, but after I found out that the Warden is searching for a cure for the Calling, I chose to let him live just to see if he shows up.



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I usually kill him, but after I found out that the Warden is searching for a cure for the Calling, I chose to let him live just to see if he shows up.

Imagine if letting the Architect live actually helped cure the Calling. Considering how everyone thought letting Varric keep the shard would backfire yet it turned out to not be that bad, I wouldn't put it past them.


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#187
Frocharocha

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I'm just doing my part to make rare things extinct.

Poor Elvens and gryphons lol.



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Darkspawn are squatting in my glorious dwarven empire. They will be evicted.

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I let him live. I believe his cause is just, despite it takes a major effort to trust a talking Darkspawn that kidnapped and experimented on me, but then again, my best friend tried to kill me when we met (dialogue you can say to Nathaniel regarding Zevran when you recruit him). Lol


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#190
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I usually kill him, but after I found out that the Warden is searching for a cure for the Calling, I chose to let him live just to see if he shows up.

EHHHH the metagaming...........



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In my first DAO-A, I let him go...

Then I read "The Calling"..  

Now I'm killing him every time. With vengeance.

Do not negotiate with darkspawns (IMO). 

 

For me it's quite opposite. The Calling made me adore him, he's one of my favs and there is no way I'm killing him.

 

In other hand I disliked Loghain even more after reading Stolen Throne although I have heard that lot of people have started to like him after reading it ^^;



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I kept him alive. I do believe he means well.



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For me it's quite opposite. The Calling made me adore him, he's one of my favs and there is no way I'm killing him.

 

In other hand I disliked Loghain even more after reading Stolen Throne although I have heard that lot of people have started to like him after reading it ^^;

 

As I mentioned, when I first met him in DAO-A, I thought that just to kill him would be thoughtless and counterproductive decision.

The Architect is trying to understand and find consensus to live in peace, I ought to give him that.

But in "The Calling"...

Spoiler

 

Yeah, right... Thank the Maker, it didn't work out.

 

Add to that: "The Calling" plot is set approximately in 9:10 Dragon, "Awakening" in 9:31, but nothing significantly have changed in how he chooses to approach the matters. 

I, personally, couldn't find a single reason to trust the Architect.

 

Also, I must add that my opinion not based on my "loyalty" to the Grey Wardens.

Despite the fact that I deeply attached to my Warden and his companions, I believe that the end doesn't justify the means.

Which is why, I wasn't surprised that in DAI's story were addressed a flaws of the Grey Wardens "all to stop the Blights" approach. 

 

As for Loghain, the novel made me more sympathetic for him and explained why he is so against Orlesians, but still..

 

^IMO  ;)



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As I mentioned, when I first met him in DAO-A, I thought that just to kill him would be thoughtless and counterproductive decision.

The Architect is trying to understand and find consensus to live in peace, I ought to give him that.

But in "The Calling"...

Spoiler

 

Yeah, right... Thank the Maker, it didn't work out.

 

Add to that: "The Calling" plot is set approximately in 9:10 Dragon, "Awakening" in 9:31, but nothing significantly have changed in how he chooses to approach the matters. 

I, personally, couldn't find a single reason to trust the Architect.

 

Also, I must add that my opinion not based on my "loyalty" to the Grey Wardens.

Despite the fact that I deeply attached to my Warden and his companions, I believe that the end doesn't justify the means.

Which is why, I wasn't surprised that in DAI's story were addressed a flaws of the Grey Wardens "all to stop the Blights" approach. 

 

As for Loghain, the novel made me more sympathetic for him and explained why he is so against Orlesians, but still..

 

^IMO  ;)

 

Architects concerns are darkspawn like most of players concerns are humans and other humanoid races in Thedas. Architect is willing to sacrifice people to get into point he sees as compromise and there is no doubt in my mind that humans and humanoids are willing, if not even eager, to sacrifice darkspawn to get good outcome for humans.. well unlike Architect they don't even think darkspawn and go for compromise most of the time since in their eyes humanoids > darkspawn, they just look for completely killing darkspawns so humanoids would be safe, but Architect isn't even thinking of sacrificing all humans for darkspawn although humanoids think that all the time.

 

In that perspective I think he seems pretty noble :P

 

I don't still support his plan in DAI. It had faults, the outcome wouldn't been very nice though it was more compromise than humanoids ever had offered to darkspawn, and in the end he was betrayed as well. I don't think he conciously betrayed Bregan, more like held information back, and was shocked when Bregan turned against him in return, I think he felt betrayed by him as well.

 

I think he has changed his plans since The Calling, but we didn't get fully to know them in DA:A so I can't comment on them. Hopefully we see him in next game or maybe in novel at least (so it wouldn't be matter at all if people killed him). 

 

In case of Loghain I just hated what he did to Maric towards the end and I think he strove Maric to depression with his actions which I'm iffy about. Otherwise he was okay, bit boring though, but okay ^^



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Architects concerns are darkspawn like most of players concerns are humans and other humanoid races in Thedas. Architect is willing to sacrifice people to get into point he sees as compromise and there is no doubt in my mind that humans and humanoids are willing, if not even eager, to sacrifice darkspawn to get good outcome for humans.. well unlike Architect they don't even think darkspawn and go for compromise most of the time since in their eyes humanoids > darkspawn, they just look for completely killing darkspawns so humanoids would be safe, but Architect isn't even thinking of sacrificing all humans for darkspawn although humanoids think that all the time.

 

In that perspective I think he seems pretty noble :P

 

I don't still support his plan in DAI. It had faults, the outcome wouldn't been very nice though it was more compromise than humanoids ever had offered to darkspawn, and in the end he was betrayed as well. I don't think he conciously betrayed Bregan, more like held information back, and was shocked when Bregan turned against him in return, I think he felt betrayed by him as well.

 

I think he has changed his plans since The Calling, but we didn't get fully to know them in DA:A so I can't comment on them. Hopefully we see him in next game or maybe in novel at least (so it wouldn't be matter at all if people killed him). 

 

In case of Loghain I just hated what he did to Maric towards the end and I think he strove Maric to depression with his actions which I'm iffy about. Otherwise he was okay, bit boring though, but okay ^^

 

Agree.
And I got the impression that we are talking about the same thing while placing emphasis on different sides of the matter. :D
 
Edit: Just wanted to add that I would like to meet the Architect again. 
And even though it's not objective comparison, but for me he is more complex and interesting character than Corypheus.

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#196
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I let him live. Tis good to have a darkspawn ally. The Messenger, too, and Avernus. Together we shall cure the blight.



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I read The Calling and let him live every time. Not much of a point though, I've played through DA 2 and Inquisition with characters who've both killed and let him live, no difference, or it's so so small I didn't notice. I think Bioware just forgot about him.


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EHHHH the metagaming...........

 

Yeah, it's hard not to consider their future appearances.

 

However, let's keep in mind that the Architect can either exist or not exist. Meaning, he's optional, just like the OGB is.

 

I doubt he's going to have a role big enough, and important enough,  for us to actually give a damn.



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I always let him live.



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Sweet Mother Necro!