Elven names
#1
Posté 19 octobre 2014 - 07:33
#2
Posté 19 octobre 2014 - 07:33
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#3
Posté 19 octobre 2014 - 07:33
Many Elvhen words also fit as names, with the notable examples of Abelas and Solas, whose names mean "sorrow" and "pride, to stand tall" respectively. Here are some other words that could easily be used as names as well:
Adahl: tree, bush
Alas: earth, dirt
Assan: arrow
Atisha: peace
Bora: to throw, project, lose
Dareth: be safe
Dirth: tell, speak
Elvarel: longer, more effort
Enasal: to be grateful for being able to withstand loss
Enansal: gift or blessing
Felas: slow
Halam: the end, finished
Inan: eyes
Isala: in need of
Mana: distant past; long amount of time
Melana: time
Melava: past
Nadas: inevitable
Nehn: joy
Numin: cry, tears
Revas: freedom
Sahlin: now, in this moment
Samahl: laugh
Seth: thin, tenuous
Shiral: journey
Souveri: weary, tired
Sulahn: sing
Suledin: endure, strength to withstand loss
Sulevin: certain
Then: awake, alert
Vallas: writing
Vhenan: heart
Vunin: day
Speculation/Naming Patterns
Dalish name endings tend to be gender specific. Names that end in "-el", "-as", and "-an" (with the exception of Hanan) are masculine, while names that end in "-(n)a", "-(n)i", and "-e" are feminine. Names that contain double "n"s and "l"s (with the exception of Pellian) tend to be feminine as well.
Something to consider about names ending in "-ris": according to Fenris, his name means "little wolf". We know "fen" is "wolf", so "ris" must mean "little", meaning the names Soris and Mihris may have similar meanings.
The surname "Lavellan" is actually the name of the Inquisitor's clan. This seems to suggest that all Dalish surnames came from clans at some point (and perhaps even city elf surnames). One hypothesis is that Dalish elves retain their surnames when they're shuffled around, so the Dalish Warden, Mahariel, was originally descended from someone who came from the Mahariel clan. This could have something to do with preventing incest, among other things.
Resources
Elven Name Generator
#4
Posté 19 octobre 2014 - 08:21
These are some very helpful lists! I'm still undecided on what to name my Inquisitor, so there's a good chance I will grab something from here (I am already going to use one of the names for a future protagonist). Thanks for putting it all together. ![]()
#5
Posté 19 octobre 2014 - 08:28
Can we really deduce anything from Fenris' name? I would have assumed Danarius would not have named him something in elvish.
#6
Posté 19 octobre 2014 - 08:43
Can we really deduce anything from Fenris' name? I would have assumed Danarius would not have named him something in elvish.
"Fen" means "wolf" in the elven language (i.e. Fen'Harel, the Dread Wolf), so either it's a remarkable coincidence, or Danarius purposely gave him an elven name.
#7
Posté 19 octobre 2014 - 12:38
Italian, Spanish, and French all share words irl, so I wouldn't be surprised if Tevinter language had some shared words with elvish, whether the magisters care to notice it or not (and if they do, they'd probably go and say something along the lines of 'It was a Tevinter word before it was an elvish word').
Besides, I doubt the Tevinter magisters (especially Danarius) knew much of anything about elvish in the first place. Not to mention that 'Da' already means, 'little' in elvish.
#8
Posté 19 octobre 2014 - 04:52
Italian, Spanish, and French all share words irl, so I wouldn't be surprised if Tevinter language had some shared words with elvish, whether the magisters care to notice it or not (and if they do, they'd probably go and say something along the lines of 'It was a Tevinter word before it was an elvish word').
It's possible that they're in the same language family in a manner similar to the Romance languages, but I doubt it, seeing as humans arrived on the continent at a much later date. I also don't see the need for humans to adopt the Elvhen term for something as common as "wolf".
Not to mention that 'Da' already means, 'little' in elvish.
There are multiple words in English that mean "little" as well, such as "small" and "tiny". Also, some elements of certain names are derived from earlier forms of a language that no longer exist in the present form of that language. The name Alfred, for instance, came from the Old English name Ælfræd, from Old English ælf "elf" and ræd "counsel".
I believe my analysis (that I will point out is merely speculation) is still within the realm of possibility.
#9
Posté 19 octobre 2014 - 11:41
It's possible that they're in the same language family in a manner similar to the Romance languages, but I doubt it, seeing as humans arrived on the continent at a much later date. I also don't see the need for humans to adopt the Elvhen term for something as common as "wolf".
There are multiple words in English that mean "little" as well, such as "small" and "tiny". Also, some elements of certain names are derived from earlier forms of a language that no longer exist in the present form of that language. The name Alfred, for instance, came from the Old English name Ælfræd, from Old English ælf "elf" and ræd "counsel".
I believe my analysis (that I will point out is merely speculation) is still within the realm of possibility.
True, but I highly doubt that Fenris' name derives from elvish. imo, it doesn't make sense that Tevinter would hold onto any lore regarding the Dalish or ancient Arlathan elves unless it had to do with the Eluvians, so I highly doubt that they'd know much about elvish.
Really, I'm just going to stick with it being a Tevinter term and not an elvish term. It makes more sense to me that way.
#10
Posté 20 octobre 2014 - 02:47
True, but I highly doubt that Fenris' name derives from elvish. imo, it doesn't make sense that Tevinter would hold onto any lore regarding the Dalish or ancient Arlathan elves unless it had to do with the Eluvians, so I highly doubt that they'd know much about elvish.
Really, I'm just going to stick with it being a Tevinter term and not an elvish term. It makes more sense to me that way.
Wasn't Danarius elf-blooded? That could imply the language connection you don't see.
There are a lot of possibilities to the translation of Fenris' name. It could be that the dialect is different in Tevinter, being of an ancient origin that is no longer used in modern Elvish; we also have to keep in mind that knowledge of Elvish would vary, as elves don't remember its entire lexicon and are still piecing it together, implying that scholars of ancient Elvhenan might discover different words at different times, unbeknownst to others. It's hard to share information in a setting like Thedas. Alternatively Danarius could have simply thought Fenris meant "little wolf" but actually had no clue if it were true, getting it from an inconsistent source - word of mouth, vague memory of reading it somewhere, coming across the word out of context and assuming its meaning, etcetera.
#11
Posté 20 octobre 2014 - 04:44
Are any of you familiar with Fenrir, the Great Wolf from Norse mythology?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fenrir
Fenris's name probably comes from that, since Fenris is an older translation of that name... I'm willing to bet that that's where "Fen" came from as well. The writers were likely familiar with this tale and decided to use a derivation of this name for their mythological Wolf.
#12
Posté 20 octobre 2014 - 12:19
My Inquisitor's name is going to be Enansel, a gift or a blessing, my real name in hebrew means a gift =) so.. thats cool I think.
#13
Posté 21 octobre 2014 - 03:43
I think it's possible that the Fen part was in reference to the elvish term, since Fen'Harel strikes me as something people outside of the Dalish might know about...then the -is part is the Tevinterfying of it, since they seem to take a Latin-esque approach to language.
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Posté 21 octobre 2014 - 08:38





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