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[Arvaarad]

That's an even more intrusive premise. Not that it couldn't be interesting, but it would need to be handled with extreme care. The protagonist being - for all intents and purposes - an alien being might not go down well for some. Personally, I would resent hate with extreme prejudice that I didn't know in advance, because that's something we should really know about the character we're playing.

Fortunately, I'm very convinced this won't happen.

I think it could be handled by not making it into a big secret, at least from the player character themselves. Go up to Tall Hat Spirit, she says "Hey fellow spirit, what's up? They need you out there to fix some of their issues. I've opened a door for you. By the way, you probably shouldn't mention you're an abomination, it freaks them out. Try to act like as normally as possible!"

[later]

"And you have no idea how you survived?"

"Nope. No. None at all."

(again, this is all pure speculation, based on a crazy theory )

[A Clever Name]

I think the Fade Brand is a product of some unknown force, not the spirit we see in the intro.  It could very well be a piece of the Fade that is literally shoved into the palm of the Inquisitor's hand somehow - we just don't have the context to know for certain.  However, given that in the CC demos we've seen the Inquisitor's hand spark with a green light before they are even made aware of the spirit, I would say it is most likely not of her creation.  Maybe it is a way for the spirit to "see" what the Inquisitor does outside of the Fade, and while they mend the tears from the outside she mends them from the inside?

 

As for why she would do this, well, one could guess that this would also be a chaotic event for the Fade itself, not to mention its denizens.  Spirits call the Fade home, and for there to be a connection to an immutable world could make its instability, well, stable​...which is about as strange to the Fade as the Fade is to Thedas.

[Lady Mutare]

Always thought that Flemeth was Andraste...in some form.  She meddles in everything, why not Mark the Inquisitor?

[Lady Mutare]

The parallel between Andraste/Maferath and the Flemeth/Bann Connabar legends are too similar.  Add to that the old gods, dragons and Flemeth/Andraste appearing in legends at same time,both are mages etc. Legends get mixed up over time and lumped together. In Origens there is also a book you may give as a gift to Wynne titled"Adraste actually being a mage

[Jaison1986]

I just heard the prologue is almost an hour long. All of that is "unplayable"? /confused

 

Haven't seen the videos btw. 

 

Some people suggested the prologue might be an flashback from the Inquisitor as they tell Cassandra what happened right before the explosion, explaining why CC happens in the fade.

[Gill Kaiser]

That's an even more intrusive premise. Not that it couldn't be interesting, but it would need to be handled with extreme care. The protagonist being - for all intents and purposes - an alien being might not go down well for some. Personally, I would resent hate with extreme prejudice that I didn't know in advance, because that's something we should really know about the character we're playing.

 

Fortunately, I'm very convinced this won't happen.

 

If the spirit didn't know, and had the memories of the deceased, then it wouldn't make a difference.

[Arvaarad]

I just heard the prologue is almost an hour long. All of that is "unplayable"? /confused

Haven't seen the videos btw.

"Prologue" could refer to the time it takes us to get out of the Fade after the explosion. We seem (again, based on limited footage) to start playing after the peace gathering explodes, rather than before.

[Sylentmana]

I'm thinking that by the end of the game, we still won't know who or what the spirit is and it will be just another mystery that gets carried over to the next game in the series.

[GodBrandon]

I hope it's Andraste

[HK-90210]

The devs will leave it ambiguous. As well they should.

 

All of my Inquisitors, if they weren't Adrastian before, will probably convert on the spot. It's gonna be like Moses on Mt. Sinai with the burning bush.

 

Inq: Wait, I'm the LAST person you want to save your people. Choose ANYONE else! For the love of the M- yourself, choose anyone but me!

Andraste/Maker: I'm in charge. I've chosen you. Get used to it, chump. Now go and kick some serious a**.

 

Dialogue is optional. That's the way it's going to feel, though.

[Whatnow12012]

My Theory from Day 1 since Origins is Flemeth is ANDRASTE, or an OLD GOD, Cause of the Stories, cause of her Shape Shifting, cause of her living for so long, there is NO OTHER OPTION but Andraste or OLD GOD, there is more to Flemeth than meets the eye.

 

I hope in the game those burning questions will be REVEALED. & about Morrigan also.

[themageguy]

She didn't give us the mark, she is hitching a ride in our hand, calling it now.

That could get awkward in the inquisitors .... 'alone' time.

[TheLastArchivist]

I'm depressed, just thinking about it.

 

 

Why must they punish me so.. I couldn't stand Wynne and Anders. Now I have to BE Wynne and Anders? 

 

 

Just realised something: I'm no catholic, but the theme of "holy" possession -in the sense of a human being the vessel for a good spirit- resembles the embodiment of the Holy Spirit a lot.

 

I know this comparison sounds like crap, but I thought there was a very subtle parallel going on here.

[Drasanil]

I don't want to get too much in real life religion, but the holy spirit in christianity/catholicism is the spirit of "God". Not any typical spirit. These Dragon Age spirits are one trick ponies, who embody one state of mind or emotion (Justice/Faith/etc). They were also called the Maker's first children (kind of like angels). The Maker got bored of their limited, uncreative nature and created mortals.

 

So uhm, funny thought, what happens if a Spirit decides to embody creativity or imagination? 

[MouseHopper]

I'm with the Flemeth group.  I've always felt that her role was an important one, and that we would be hearing more from her.  We're bound to see her again in DA-I.  Why not in the form of this Golden "spirit" form?  She usually proves to be more of a help then a hindrance and seems to have our best interests at heart.  So one can only assume that if this is Flemeth her presence is to be welcomed, albeit somewhat cautiously...

[Arvaarad]

I don't want to get too much in real life religion, but the holy spirit in christianity/catholicism is the spirit of "God". Not any typical spirit. These Dragon Age spirits are one trick ponies, who embody one state of mind or emotion (Justice/Faith/etc). They were also called the Maker's first children (kind of like angels). The Maker got bored of their limited, uncreative nature and created mortals.

That's one of the things I think the Chantry got really wrong. Powerful demons like Imshael have incredibly complex portfolios like "choice and consequences". He has associates and acquaintances. He can get excited about things that are happening in the future, or about catching up with people that he knows.

Even Justice had a recognizable personality, completely separate from his drive to enforce a virtue. Appreciating the beauty of the world, indulging in the simple pleasure of lyrium's song, or contemplating what drives other spirits to be corrupted - none of these are directly related to justice.

At first blush, spirits seem incredibly simple, but they're just beings with different drives than us. They have a drive to promote their portfolio like we have drives to eat/sleep/have sex, and that drive consumes much of their time. But they have personality separate from that.

Spirits could just as well say "humans eat all the time, they must embody the concept of food."

EDIT: Plus, human imagination is ultimately based on things they see in the world. We build on things we've experienced. If humans existed in the Fade without ever seeing the physical world, they'd have no imagination either.

Just as we'd expect, spirits seem to have more and more personality the longer they spend outside the Fade or interact with mortals. They just need experiences to fuel their imagination.

[Br3admax]

Fun Fact: The Chantry has never once said this isn't the case. I'm not sure where you got that from.