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Why doesn't "Rejuvenate" spell work for me?


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Just Another Gamer

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This ALWAYS happens to me. Alistair is one of my most common party members. During battle, whenever his stamina is half, I use the "Rejuvanate" spell on him but still his stamina doesn't increase at all! Is it because a sustained ability is active on him?



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It's an over time spell, unlike the instant 'Heal' spell. Check if his stamina is increasing with time.

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^^ This. If Alistair is still taking damage faster than he is regenerating it - no matter how fast that rate is - his health will still generally go down.

 

The takeaway message is that Rejuvenate generally just slows the rate of damage taken, so it's best to cast it as soon as Alistair starts taking damage. If you've got it in the tactics section, Set it to Alistair - Health < 90% (is that the highest percentage? Can't remember) - Cast Rejuvenate.



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@Ferretinabum. I think you mistook the regeranation spell ( which regenerates health ) with the rejuvanate spell ( which regenerates mana / stamina ). As this is about the rejuvanate spell, the damage Alistairs receives does not make any difference.

 

@Just Another Gamer. There are indeed sustained abilities that drain mana. But for a warrior the only i can think of is momentum, which requires to go to the DW talent tree. I assume your playing Alistair as a sword and shield warrior and this talent tree does not have any sustained abilities which would drain stamina.( i mean in the OC, there are some in the expansion )

 

As Blazomancer said it is a over time spell with a fixed amount of stamina regeneration ( 8 stam per second over 10 seconds = 80 stamina at the end )

 

The only explanation i can think of is either Alistairs uses an ability during those 10 seconds which spends a similar amount of stamina that is regenerated or your Alistair has such a large stamina pool that you simply do not see the 80 stamina as a big difference ( do you stack willpower and stamina gear by any chance? ) Or a combination of both.

 

For me the spell works just fine.


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@Ferretinabum. I think you mistook the regeranation spell ( which regenerates health ) with the rejuvanate spell ( which regenerates mana / stamina ). As this is about the rejuvanate spell, the damage Alistairs receives does not make any difference.

 

@Just Another Gamer. There are indeed sustained abilities that drain mana. But for a warrior the only i can think of is momentum, which requires to go to the DW talent tree. I assume your playing Alistair as a sword and shield warrior and this talent tree does not have any sustained abilities which would drain stamina.( i mean in the OC, there are some in the expansion )

 

As Blazomancer said it is a over time spell with a fixed amount of stamina regeneration ( 8 stam per second over 10 seconds = 80 stamina at the end )

 

The only explanation i can think of is either Alistairs uses an ability during those 10 seconds which spends a similar amount of stamina that is regenerated or your Alistair has such a large stamina pool that you simply do not see the 80 stamina as a big difference ( do you stack willpower and stamina gear by any chance? ) Or a combination of both.

 

For me the spell works just fine.

Thanks for your post and sorry for the late response.
You are very correct in saying that I'm using him as an exclusive sword and shield warrior. ( I thought I would make him fully effective in shield talents and focus Sten and Oghren on Dual Wielding).
The sustained ability that Alistair was using was "Threaten" ( and maybe "Precise striking" also, not sure).
Thing is, when I created this discussion, I didn't even know that one could turn off the sustained ability from the radial menu (Xbox 360). In fact, I didn't even know that time how to even set/change the tactics. I never used to change the default tactic setting for my party memebers. That time, Alistair was using the default setting and most of the time his stamina level was half, even while not in combat! I thought maybe that's why he dies more in battle so tried to use the REjuvenate spell on him. But it didn't used to work at all. His stamina was always half and it used to reduce (obviously) during battle .
Afterwards, when I got a better understanding of the game mechanics, after every battle, I used to manually turn off the sustained spells on all party members. And also, I completely stopped focussing on their stamina in battle. Rather, I started focussing on their health!


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Spell power directly affects the amount healed so try to increase that. It certainly helps. The highest spell power stats comes from a staff sold by the Quartermaster in the Circle Tower for 128 sovereign. I believe its called Staff of the Magister Lords. Its expensive though as its the best staff in the game  :P



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@Ferretinabum. I think you mistook the regeranation spell ( which regenerates health ) with the rejuvanate spell ( which regenerates mana / stamina ). As this is about the rejuvanate spell, the damage Alistairs receives does not make any difference.

 

@Just Another Gamer. There are indeed sustained abilities that drain mana. But for a warrior the only i can think of is momentum, which requires to go to the DW talent tree. I assume your playing Alistair as a sword and shield warrior and this talent tree does not have any sustained abilities which would drain stamina.( i mean in the OC, there are some in the expansion )

 

As Blazomancer said it is a over time spell with a fixed amount of stamina regeneration ( 8 stam per second over 10 seconds = 80 stamina at the end )

 

The only explanation i can think of is either Alistairs uses an ability during those 10 seconds which spends a similar amount of stamina that is regenerated or your Alistair has such a large stamina pool that you simply do not see the 80 stamina as a big difference ( do you stack willpower and stamina gear by any chance? ) Or a combination of both.

 

For me the spell works just fine.

 

D'oh. Silly me.



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Spell power directly affects the amount healed so try to increase that. It certainly helps. The highest spell power stats comes from a staff sold by the Quartermaster in the Circle Tower for 128 sovereign. I believe its called Staff of the Magister Lords. Its expensive though as its the best staff in the game  :P

Thanks...didn't  know about the staff...I'm almost done with main quests (except for Landsmeet) so I guess now's the best time to get it..At least in the final boss fight, it'll be useful..The only downside being, once I buy that , I'll not have money even for a lesser health poultice :(



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Thanks...didn't  know about the staff...I'm almost done with main quests (except for Landsmeet) so I guess now's the best time to get it..At least in the final boss fight, it'll be useful..The only downside being, once I buy that , I'll not have money even for a lesser health poultice :(

Hi. A bit off topic, but if money is your concern now, than invest rather in the potent lyrium potion recipe ( ofcourse you need someone with 4 point in the herbalism skill ) and you can create and sell these. It's a bit tedious (and cheesy ), but you can make a lot of gold with this.

 

for more info try this link:

http://dragonage.wik...Potion_crafting



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Hi. A bit off topic, but if money is your concern now, than invest rather in the potent lyrium potion recipe ( ofcourse you need someone with 4 point in the herbalism skill ) and you can create and sell these. It's a bit tedious (and cheesy ), but you can make a lot of gold with this.

 

for more info try this link:

http://dragonage.wik...Potion_crafting

Thanks! But the only problem I see is that first you need to spend 11 Gold for the recipe. And then each potion will give only about 21 Silver profit, so I'll have to make and sell a lot! As you said, very tedious :(  And now since we're talking about money, it's one thing I just hated in this game. It's difficult to make lot of money and most of the things are costly. Moreover, to create a potion, you need to buy the recipe , which is too much. I don't want to compare, but before DA:O, I had played an RPG where I didn't have to buy a recipe to make potions; if I had ingredients and the skill, I could make that potion. Moreover, in that RPG, after completing some side quests, I could establish something like a business which generated constant and decent revenue; I was a millionaire by the end of the game!And also could buy all the expensive weapons , potions etc. Though I like DAO, now that I have played about 80% of the game, I can say that this game is more punishing than rewarding :(