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[In Exile]

Are we at the point where most games support an SLI set-up? Is it worthwhile, for example, to invest in two GTX970s for absurdly powerful graphical performance? Would there be heating issues? 

 

http://ca.pcpartpicker.com/p/fjV6K8

[mybudgee]

I doubt it

[Fidite Nemini]

SLI is a pretty mature technology by now. Not as refined as most would love to see it, but it works. And Nvidia in particular is pretty quick with driver updates to support SLI profiles.

 

Using two GTX 970s in SLI is however a bit overkill unless you intend to thoroughly abuse the DSR, or wish to ensure hitting the 120+ fps cap on a 120+ Hz refreshrate monitor. For everything else a single GTX 970 is more than enough.

 

If you want to go for SLI and have worries about heating, there's three basic options:

 

-Go watercooling.

-Make sure you have a large case with lots of airflow/ventilation AND a large MOBO where you can fit the GPUs into and have sufficient space between them to allow proper airflow for each GPU.

-Use a blower cooling design instead of an open cooler (refernce coolers are blowers).

 

 

Also something of note:

 

You want another MOBO. More specifically, a Z97 chipset MOBO if you want to use the i7 4790K.

[Deathangel008]

aircooled SLI always cause higher temps on both graphic cards, if its going to be a problem or not depends on the airflow in your case. always ask yourself if you really need the power, you dont just put two cards together and have twice the performance.
btw what is your current system?

[bmwcrazy]

The GTX 970 and 980 run relatively cool. They should be perfectly fine air-cooled even with the stock coolers on SLI.

 

But if you're worried, you can wait for video card manufacturers to use their own custom coolers, or water cool them when the water blocks are available which is something that I cannot be bothered to.

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

Not very expensive boss:

 

 

 

GTX 770 4GB MSI with efficient and low noise fans.

[bmwcrazy]

Bumping this thread because the Asus GTX 970 Ti is on sale for only $313 at Tigerdirect.

If you need a good video card to play DA:I, now it's your chance to get it.

[Fidite Nemini]

Bumping this thread because the Asus GTX 970 Ti is on sale for only $313 at Tigerdirect.

If you need a good video card to play DA:I, now it's your chance to get it.

 

For a second there you scared me into thinking I had somehow managed to miss the Nvidia announcement of a GTX 970 Ti GPU.

 

Shame on you!

[bmwcrazy]

IMO, I'd rather get something much faster than the "recommended" so I don't have to worry about upgrading in the near future.

The GTX 970 and GTX 980 are still the cards to get, no matter what your PC gaming budget is. I know they're a lot of money to most people but for the performance that they offer plus their efficiency, they're definitely a bargain.

[Ryzaki]

Loving mine. So much cooler and quieter than my 570 used to be :3 plus better framerates.

[chris2365]

Loving mine. So much cooler and quieter than my 570 used to be :3 plus better framerates.

 

Is the 970 a worthy card for maxing out all of today's games at 60 FPS? I have an old rig from 2009 (Core 2 duo 3.8 Ghz, Nvidia GTX 275, 4GB of Ram, basically very outdated) and was thinking this holiday would be a perfect time to build a new rig. The old rig is starting to have hiccups and can't run the newest games.

 

Plus I want to see the new games in super shiny and non-choppy format 

[bmwcrazy]

The Core 2 Duo is a little bit long in the tooth.

You'll definitely see a performance increase with the GTX 970 but not as much as it should be with the CPU being the bottleneck.

I went from a 3.6ghz Core 2 Quad Q9650 to an i7 2600k OCed to 4.2ghz a few years ago using the same video card (GTX 680) and the difference was quite noticeable to my surprise.

If you don't feel like spending too much money and effort on a new PC, you can just get the GTX 970 and upgrade your RAM to 8GB, but if you can afford it, you might as well use this opportunity to build a new one.

[Ryzaki]

Is the 970 a worthy card for maxing out all of today's games at 60 FPS? I have an old rig from 2009 (Core 2 duo 3.8 Ghz, Nvidia GTX 275, 4GB of Ram, basically very outdated) and was thinking this holiday would be a perfect time to build a new rig. The old rig is starting to have hiccups and can't run the newest games.

 

Plus I want to see the new games in super shiny and non-choppy format 

 

Bwm ninja'd me XD But yeah most of the games I play are a bit older though or have moderate requirements so I'm not gonna be the best judge.

[bmwcrazy]

Yeah, get the new i5 4690k (or the i7 4790k if you want) with a good Z79 motherboard and 16GB of RAM.

SSDs are also getting unbelievably cheap. So you definitely need one or two of those in your new rig, and when M.2 or SATA Express SSDs become cheaply available in the future, then you can upgrade your SSD again to use the new interface on your mobo.

[chris2365]

The Core 2 Duo is a little bit long in the tooth.

You'll definitely see a performance increase with the GTX 970 but not as much as it should be with the CPU being the bottleneck.

I went from a 3.6ghz Core 2 Quad Q9650 to an i7 2600k OCed to 4.2ghz a few years ago using the same video card (GTX 680) and the difference was quite noticeable to my surprise.

If you don't feel like spending too much money and effort on a new PC, you can just get the GTX 970 and upgrade your RAM to 8GB, but if you can afford it, you might as well use this opportunity to build a new one.

 

Oh I meant actually building a new rig from scratch. I am most definitely retiring my old core 2 for the newer core i5s. The money is not an issue since the money I make from my part time job is all for my personal items and needs. 

 

Eyeing something like this at the moment:

 

Intel i5-4xxx or i5-5xxx (once they come out) with about 3.5 Ghz clock at least

Nvidia GTX 970

8GB of RAM (maybe 16 if I feel like it)

256 GB SSD

3 TB Seagate HDD

Motherboard and power supply (haven't picked yet)

 

Budget's between 1000$-1500$, so plenty to work with 

[bmwcrazy]

That sounds good to me.

My suggestion is to plan out everything and buy your parts from Black Friday to the end of winter holidays. Use websites that post online deals like slickdeals to get the most out of your money during the holiday sales. With slickdeals, you simply make an account and put keywords like "GTX 970" or "i5 4690k" to its search engine and add them to your deal alert. So you'll never miss any deals on the computer parts that you want.

If you have credit cards, check to see if they offer cashbacks or incentives for shopping on certain websites. You can save a lot of money by doing this.

[chris2365]

That sounds good to me.

My suggestion is to plan out everything and buy your parts from Black Friday to the end of winter holidays. Use websites that post online deals like slickdeals to get the most out of your money during the holiday sales. With slickdeals, you simply make an account and put keywords like "GTX 970" or "i5 4690k" to its search engine and add them to your deal alert. So you'll never miss any deals on the computer parts that you want.

If you have credit cards, check to see if they offer cashbacks or incentives for shopping on certain websites. You can save a lot of money by doing this.

 

Thanks for the link! Unfortunately I'm from Canada and they don't seem to have my city, and shipping costs would add up and make it less worthwhile. Still an interesting option though.

[bmwcrazy]

Aww...man, I assumed you were from the States.

I guess you'll have to stick with NCIX, newegg.ca and amazon.ca.

[Deathangel008]

Intel i5-4xxx or i5-5xxx (once they come out) with about 3.5 Ghz clock at least

Xeon E3 1231v3.

[chris2365]

Xeon E3 1231v3.

 

Yeah, I wasn't planning on making a server  . Though all that extra power does sound appealing... Must not resist corruption. Don't want to become like a friend of a friend who apparently got a 5000$ PC with a 20 core Intel server CPU just so he can play World of Warcraft 

[Deathangel008]

the Xeon E3 1231v3 basically is an i74770 without iGPU. 4cores/8 threads, 3,4GHz, as long as you dont want to overclock better than any i5 imo.

[Fidite Nemini]

Yeah, I wasn't planning on making a server  . Though all that extra power does sound appealing... Must not resist corruption. Don't want to become like a friend of a friend who apparently got a 5000$ PC with a 20 core Intel server CPU just so he can play World of Warcraft 

 

Just because it's a workstation CPU doesn't mean it's not good for gaming. In fact, if you're not going to overclock, the E3 1231v3 is a beastly CPU. It's basically an i7 for the price of an i5. And that means it will blow i5 CPUs out of the water for all applications that come with more than 4 threads support.

[chris2365]

the Xeon E3 1231v3 basically is an i74770 without iGPU. 4cores/8 threads, 3,4GHz, as long as you dont want to overclock better than any i5 imo.

 

Just because it's a workstation CPU doesn't mean it's not good for gaming. In fact, if you're not going to overclock, the E3 1231v3 is a beastly CPU. It's basically an i7 for the price of an i5. And that means it will blow i5 CPUs out of the water for all applications that come with more than 4 threads support.

 

Oh, I wasn't aware of that. I always associated Xeons with server CPUs. Sounds like an interesting option, but you guys say I can't overclock it though?