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What's this about kids?
Not all of us straight people want kids and many gays/lesbians actually adopt or do a surrogate pregnancy so don't give me that argument about how we straight people are the only ones increasing world population and bringing more generation of BRATS into the world.
Never having children master-race reporting out.
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That was pretty dumb. Not because of what it was trying to get across, but the fact that comparing the life experiences of gay people and straight people is like comparing apples to oranges. You cant just switch them around. Some of the things shown in the video, simply do not work.
First of, those who are homosexual are in a minority. Those things where people assume you are straight is part of the norm because there are simply more straight people than bi or gay. Imagine a society where we had to tiptoe around every single issue to find your hyper-specific denomination of "Gender-neutral Trans/post Op Gay Space Starfish". We would never get anywhere.
Being gay means youre going to be different, and being different is not a bad thing. The problem with this video is, it says everything has to be commonplace and tries to do so by switching the roles of the conversation on homosexuality.
lol
It's a hypothetical
Imagine where homosexuality was the norm. And being Straight was comparable to being a homosexual now.
It's a message to heterosexuals to show you how stupid it is to be prejudiced against homosexuals. And how hard it is for people to come out with it.
In no way is this trying to be a Straight Pride parade or something.
Thought people would get that.
But whatever, it's not the first time I've been disappointed.
So here I am, picking my nose.
Being gay means youre going to be different, and being different is not a bad thing. The problem with this video is, it says everything has to be commonplace and tries to do so by switching the roles of the conversation on homosexuality.
So what? You're saying that homosexuality is 'common place' now? And that anybody can come out without a single problem with their families or social circle?
Yeah....
No.
The internet might be more liberal but nah, I've seen too many fucks out there that for some dumb ass reason are against the whole thing.
So yeah.
No.
It's a simple video for said dumb-asses that says (as you stated) being different isn't wrong.
Because ignorant fucks still exist and they're not a minority.
Not all of us straight people want kids and many gays/lesbians actually adopt or do a surrogate pregnancy so don't give me that argument about how we straight people are the only ones increasing world population and bringing more generation of BRATS into the world.
Not sure if it's sarcasm...
Without surrogacy, some straight people still have to pump out those unwanted kids for the gay/lesbian couples to adopt. 
They tend to irritate me but at the end they have my sympathy.
Guest_simfamUP_*
Still, I'm curious as to what you guys think is so stupid.
So I may not make the same mistake again.
That is if your reasoning is sound and provide an argument that isn't "it's cheesy."
Cos Jesus Christ was it cheesy.
But not stupid.
Guest_Catch This Fade_*
Still, I'm curious as to what you guys think is so stupid.
So I may not make the same mistake again.
Why do you care? It's not your fault if people don't see the point in a video you post and just dismiss it as "stupid".
Guest_OneWomanArmy_*
I dont think you made a mistake either Sim, you just posted a video to see our reaction to it, that's not a mistake, everyone is entitled to post and say their opinions here, most people does it and you are no less that anyone else here. I think the video is a bit silly and pointless but that's just my personal opinion and has nothing to do with you, it's a "reaction" to it, like to any other topics, so never feel as if you are making a mistake just because you post something some of us dont like
I wouldn't say a mistake was made with this thread, but I still found the video to be a bit silly on account of the fact that straight sex is kind of needed to produce children, which is generally a good thing for those of us who enjoy the Human race being a thing.
but either way, I'm well aware of what it's like to have people judge you for being different and I do my best to not judge others for simply being different.
It'd be a pretty boring world if we were all the same anyway.
This hypothesis is impossible. Showing fairness to homosexual people is getting a bit too far. I can see this being a thing some years back, but as of right now every homosexual person is a normal and respectable member of society.
For me, constantly campaigning for homosexuality is even worse than just leaving it alone. It just shows that this particular group of people is different somehow. Gay parades are some of the worse things to be done regarding the reputation of homosexuals. Heterosexuals don't go around parading. The fact that homosexuals do... makes them different. And that is exactly what we don't want.
Why would anyone care what an individual does in the privacy of their home? No-one. Or so we would have liked.
Guest_simfamUP_*
Why do you care? It's not your fault if people don't see the point in a video you post and just dismiss it as "stupid".
I don't know.
I have pretty low self esteem.
So I just assume I did something wrong here.
I blame Geth for that btw.
This hypothesis is impossible. Showing fairness to homosexual people is getting a bit too far. I can see this being a thing some years back, but as of right now every homosexual person is a normal and respectable member of society.
Sorry dude, but that's like saying racism isn't an issue in Western society because "we're beyond that now." Or saying that sex isn't an issue because "women are equal now." Perhaps in a post-modern world, but we don't live in that sort of world, Qwib.
The issue still exists.
For me, constantly campaigning for homosexuality is even worse than just leaving it alone. It just shows that this particular group of people is different somehow. Gay parades are some of the worse things to be done regarding the reputation of homosexuals. Heterosexuals don't go around parading. The fact that homosexuals do... makes them different. And that is exactly what we don't want.
Why would anyone care what an individual does in the privacy of their home? No-one. Or so we would have liked.
I see what you're saying. But if ignoring the issue were a solution, then we wouldn't have a problem in the first place. The world, unfortunately, has been stuck in a 50s mindset for way too long.
Things are better now.
But they are far from perfect.
I still get people in my social circle (in real life, of course) hating the hell out of homosexuals. Even my parents still think homosexuality belongs to a "weird bunch" even though they're fine with it.
If two thousand years hasn't wiped religion off the face of the planet, then a few decades isn't going to erase prejudice.
Eh ^ stupid example.
Basically ignorance doesn't get erased. These parades make it an issue because it is an issue that needs to be confronted.
Take feminism.
It started out with radical movements with the Women's Suffrage. Because of pushing this stuff and doing all these pro-active activities, women were able to push for progress.
Now we have different strands of feminism. Liberals, Radicals, Marxists etc...
Sh*t still needs to get done.
Now, feminism is an ideology and homosexuality isn't. But these pro-active movements are based around a war against social prejudice.
Which is to say, they have their point.
But I guess like feminism. The issue has their own strands. So your point is as valid as mine. We just take different stands on the same goal, no?
Thank god I remembered a little Sociology.
Only useful subject in school other than History.
The rest you can teach yourself. English through Planescape: Torment and Math through Mount and Blade xD
but I still found the video to be a bit silly on account of the fact that straight sex is kind of needed to produce children, which is generally a good thing for those of us who enjoy the Human race being a thing.
Oh sure, but that's where the hypothetical comes in.
It wouldn't work on a practical standpoint.
But a little suspension of disbelief doesn't hurt.
We're gamers, we do it all the time xD
a mistake just because you post something some of us dont like
It's a reaction xD don't worry I wasn't bitter or anything about it.
Simply curious.
Like I said. I have a low opinion of myself in these matters.
But yeah, I can see it's very simple for what is undoubtedly, a complicated subject to forward.
But if it's a simple video it'll work for simple people... who usually belong to the "hurr de durr I hte fgss hheerrr" group.
Oh sure, but that's where the hypothetical comes in.
It wouldn't work on a practical standpoint.
But a little suspension of disbelief doesn't hurt.
We're gamers, we do it all the time xD
Still a first reaction for me =P
It's like when people try to do the flip for men/women which doesn't work very well either. If I overheard a bunch of girls talking about how they wanted to have sex with me I imagine most guys would respond by bragging about it to their friends rather than finding it creepy.
In this case the flip is a bit easier to imagine considering not too many people are going to view being judged negatively as a good thing. Despite being straight I have been judged for being different and in most cases my response was to simply tell the other person where they can shove their opinion.
I can only imagine that if the situation was reversed and ignoring biology that would be my response to people doing that to my being straight. Family would be cool with it.
My general view on things is that I am who I am. You either accept that or you aren't worth my time.
Guest_mikeucrazy_*
funnier then the troll threads on here, but not lose of breathe funny
wheres the version of this for beer and tea
Of course running around going "RACEWAR! RACEWAR! (see Fergeson or Trayvon Martin nonsense) only furthers racism in the end.Sorry dude, but that's like saying racism isn't an issue in Western society because "we're beyond that now." Or saying that sex isn't an issue because "women are equal now." Perhaps in a post-modern world, but we don't live in that sort of world, Qwib.
The issue still exists.
I see what you're saying. But if ignoring the issue were a solution, then we wouldn't have a problem in the first place. The world, unfortunately, has been stuck in a 50s mindset for way too long.
I still get people in my social circle (in real life, of course) hating the hell out of homosexuals. Even my parents still think homosexuality belongs to a "weird bunch" even though they're fine with it.
If two thousand years hasn't wiped religion off the face of the planet, then a few decades isn't going to erase prejudice.
This hypothesis is impossible. Showing fairness to homosexual people is getting a bit too far. I can see this being a thing some years back, but as of right now every homosexual person is a normal and respectable member of society.
For me, constantly campaigning for homosexuality is even worse than just leaving it alone. It just shows that this particular group of people is different somehow. Gay parades are some of the worse things to be done regarding the reputation of homosexuals. Heterosexuals don't go around parading. The fact that homosexuals do... makes them different. And that is exactly what we don't want.
Why would anyone care what an individual does in the privacy of their home? No-one. Or so we would have liked.
I know you're trying to promote some sort of equality here. But, the circumstances are different than what you imagine. Us gays are just different, not only by sexual orientation, but by experience, and some encounters can turn hostile. The world is still filled with hate and I believe at one time, the parades meant solidarity.
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Guest_Act of Velour_*
What's this about kids?
Not all of us straight people want kids and many gays/lesbians actually adopt or do a surrogate pregnancy so don't give me that argument about how we straight people are the only ones increasing world population and bringing more generation of BRATS into the world.
Never having children master-race reporting out.
Amen, Shrek. No, but as someone who went through difficulties with my family when I came out as bisexual, I really, really like this video.
Guest_TrillClinton_*
What's your motto? "Celebrating misery in family and procreation since the dawn of humanity?"
Not you personally, but I am sure many of the feminist would love to hold a parade for all the white males. White males after all are the source of all the problems in the world ~
Somebody has to be!
I thought the video was as excellent parody to raise a real issue that still exists in modern society, and that issue is the acceptance around a persons sexual orientation
For straight people we never have to consider a world where we are judged on something we cannot change and that is our sexual orientation. I am a South African who lives in South Africa and we were one of the first countries that allowed same sex marriage which is an important part of non-discriminatory Constitution which despite its faults we are very proud of our Constitution
But we still have homophobia in our society, I have several gay friends who during there lifetimes they have been discriminated against on different levels. For example I know a couple in there early 30's and the one guy still can't tell him family he is gay as they are very conservative. So they don't hold hands in public or show any affection.
Imagine as a straight person knowing you can't hold your partners hand in public because you are worried about the abuse you may receive?
So there is still work to be done in all societies to get to the point where a persons sexual orientation should make no difference to how we treat them. And yes advancements have been made but there is still progress that needs to happen
Hmm... I'm sort of divided on this thread. I'm also in some serious insomnia, so I'll dabble a little.
My instinct was that the thread, the original post, and the video weren't supposed to be taken seriously (didn't watch the video, not judging it, will watch it momentarily, tho', promise.)
So I started out interpreting people's posts as being light-hearted. And, to be honest, I do like to think that in a place like BSN, people who are different from each other can light-heartedly talk and joke about these subjects. But, the truth is, underlying all of this are serious issues. And people have every right to make serious points about serious issues, so the turn makes sense.
I'm also impressed. Maybe it's because of the hour of the day, I don't know, but with one or two exceptions, everyone who has posted in here, whether I agree with them or not, has been fundamentally respectful. I don't mean to say that like it's the exception on BSN, but rather that is is something to be appreciated when it happens.
For me, constantly campaigning for homosexuality is even worse than just leaving it alone. It just shows that this particular group of people is different somehow. Gay parades are some of the worse things to be done regarding the reputation of homosexuals. Heterosexuals don't go around parading. The fact that homosexuals do... makes them different. And that is exactly what we don't want.
Why would anyone care what an individual does in the privacy of their home? No-one. Or so we would have liked.
I can respect this sentiment (and at one time shared similar beliefs) but I'd like to try and convince you to look at Pride parades another way.
The progress that modern democratic societies have made towards acceptance didn't occur in a vacuum. There were uncountable bricks building up the progress. In some cases, individual people achieving radical change politically, like Harvey Milk. In some cases, the willingness of respected actors to portray gay characters, like Tom Hanks. In some cases, people engendering great love and admiration, like Ellen Degeneris.
But what can never be discounted is what the collective achieves. What people do as a community is such a profound and important part of that. When anyone celebrates via a parade (or any kind of event) the nature of themselves as a community, it doesn't have to be about being different (although it can.) What's important is that the celebrations are inclusive, and that no value judgments are being made about that difference. In this regard, pride parades have done great things.
Some cities have famous pride parades that almost everyone goes to, regardless of their gender, or sexual orientation. Among other things, it's a great party. It's also a positive community experience, that promotes togetherness, friendship, love and acceptance. Pride Parades don't host speeches about hate and rage, they host parties led by raunchy drag queens. They are for everyone. No one who goes to a pride parade to have a good time is turned away.
They're not everyone's kind of thing, and I haven't gone to one in many, many years, but I have come to believe that they have formed an incredibly important part of the progress that society has made. I hope that they continue to be a positive force and a source of community for many generations to come.
Of course running around going "RACEWAR! RACEWAR! (see Fergeson or Trayvon Martin nonsense) only furthers racism in the end.
"The issue still exists". But what is that supposed to mean? That people still have to behave like morons when somebody whose skin is a certain color gets shot by somebody whose skin is a different color? What does that accomplish?
I'm not often genuinely offended, so congratulations. The people of Ferguson deserve better than be characterized as morons, and they deserve better than to have their concerns dismissed as nonsense.
They most definitely don't deserve to be accused of being the ones responsible for furthering racism in this day and age. I'm not going to debate the issue with you, and I sincerely hope no one else does, either. I have pressed the report button (on people other than myself) three times that I can recall in 2 years. If you pursue this track any further, you will earn the fourth.
I'm glad to offend, but I wasn't talking about the regular citizens of Ferguson going about their lives, or the Roof Koreans, but the looters and rioters, the vultures who suddenly appear like Al Sharpton, and all of the other idiots on TV or the internet ranting. The Travon Martin case was turned into a circus by the media and anybody with an agenda despite the fact that it wasn't some race-motivated hate killing. You can argue over who bears most of the blame or if Zimmerman deserved jail time but in the end it was two people who behaved foolishly and unfortunately got into a fight that resulted in a death.I'm not often genuinely offended, so congratulations. The people of Ferguson deserve better than be characterized as morons, and they deserve better than to have their concerns dismissed as nonsense.
They most definitely don't deserve to be accused of being the ones responsible for furthering racism in this day and age. I'm not going to debate the issue with you, and I sincerely hope no one else does, either. I have pressed the report button (on people other than myself) three times that I can recall in 2 years. If you pursue this track any further, you will earn the fourth.
Guest_Catch This Fade_*
Hmm... I'm sort of divided on this thread. I'm also in some serious insomnia, so I'll dabble a little.
My instinct was that the thread, the original post, and the video weren't supposed to be taken seriously (didn't watch the video, not judging it, will watch it momentarily, tho', promise.)
So I started out interpreting people's posts as being light-hearted. And, to be honest, I do like to think that in a place like BSN, people who are different from each other can light-heartedly talk and joke about these subjects. But, the truth is, underlying all of this are serious issues. And people have every right to make serious points about serious issues, so the turn makes sense.
I'm also impressed. Maybe it's because of the hour of the day, I don't know, but with one or two exceptions, everyone who has posted in here, whether I agree with them or not, has been fundamentally respectful. I don't mean to say that like it's the exception on BSN, but rather that is is something to be appreciated when it happens.
I can respect this sentiment (and at one time shared similar beliefs) but I'd like to try and convince you to look at Pride parades another way.
The progress that modern democratic societies have made towards acceptance didn't occur in a vacuum. There were uncountable bricks building up the progress. In some cases, individual people achieving radical change politically, like Harvey Milk. In some cases, the willingness of respected actors to portray gay characters, like Tom Hanks. In some cases, people engendering great love and admiration, like Ellen Degeneris.
But what can never be discounted is what the collective achieves. What people do as a community is such a profound and important part of that. When anyone celebrates via a parade (or any kind of event) the nature of themselves as a community, it doesn't have to be about being different (although it can.) What's important is that the celebrations are inclusive, and that no value judgments are being made about that difference. In this regard, pride parades have done great things.
Some cities have famous pride parades that almost everyone goes to, regardless of their gender, or sexual orientation. Among other things, it's a great party. It's also a positive community experience, that promotes togetherness, friendship, love and acceptance. Pride Parades don't host speeches about hate and rage, they host parties led by raunchy drag queens. They are for everyone. No one who goes to a pride parade to have a good time is turned away.
They're not everyone's kind of thing, and I haven't gone to one in many, many years, but I have come to believe that they have formed an incredibly important part of the progress that society has made. I hope that they continue to be a positive force and a source of community for many generations to come.
I'm not often genuinely offended, so congratulations. The people of Ferguson deserve better than be characterized as morons, and they deserve better than to have their concerns dismissed as nonsense.
They most definitely don't deserve to be accused of being the ones responsible for furthering racism in this day and age. I'm not going to debate the issue with you, and I sincerely hope no one else does, either. I have pressed the report button (on people other than myself) three times that I can recall in 2 years. If you pursue this track any further, you will earn the fourth.
Nice assumptions there.
And the Irish do farrrr better parades on Saint Patrick's Day tbh.Nice assumptions there.
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