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[Br3admax]

You know, spamming a quote from an anime you like isn't evidence. 

[LOLandStuff]

Anime dialogues try too hard to sound deep but actually come out as very lame.

[Sports72Xtrm]

You know, spamming a quote from an anime you like isn't evidence. 

What am I trying to prove? You asked for my opinion on a subject matter and I gave it.

[Lulupab]

I am glad to see people realizing the definition of American plea of insanity in courts is quite different what it can mean, which in the end is subjective. A friend Anders can easily appear in DA:I exactly the way he was in last minutes of the game. Calm, regretful and focused on saving mages.

[Br3admax]

And then a few minutes later he could be just like he was a few minutes before that. Sanity doesn't work that way. If you can go from level headed to crazy just by an insult, you aren't sane. 

[Lulupab]

And then a few minutes later he could be just like he was a few minutes before that. Sanity doesn't work that way. If you can go from level headed to crazy just by an insult, you aren't sane. 

 

That applies to anyone you know. The fact remains sparing Anders can actually work like it did with Loghian but alas DAO didn't have horrible approval system of DA2 (friend or rival).

[Hellion Rex]

I am glad to see people realizing the definition of American plea of insanity in courts is quite different what it can mean, which in the end is subjective. A friend Anders can easily appear in DA:I exactly the way he was in last minutes of the game. Calm, regretful and focused on saving mages.

I don't think it'll work like that. He seemed like it was getting worse and worse. That was about five years ago, since it appears that DAI takes place in either 9:41-9:42. Either Justice has full control or Justice could have easily burned out Anders' life, because that merging was so screwed up.

[Lulupab]

I don't think it'll work like that. He seemed like it was getting worse and worse. That was about five years ago, since it appears that DAI takes place in either 9:41-9:42. Either Justice has full control or Justice could have easily burned out Anders' life, because that merging was so screwed up.

 

Or it could have turned out well. The fact that Justice doesn't interrupt Anders' death is enough. And why would Justice burnout Anders? David Gaider stated that Justice can actually negate Anders' Calling, that not burning out.

[Hellion Rex]

Or it could have turned out well. The fact that Justice doesn't interrupt Anders' death is enough. And why would Justice burnout Anders? David Gaider stated that Justice can actually negate Anders' Calling, that not burning out.

Huh? Gaider has never said Anders' calling will be negated. I need a source for that, because that is a very large claim.

[Milan92]

Oh come on! Why is every warden's calling getting called off, but the warden has to go through with it.

[DanAxe]

On my first playthrough of DA2 i was so shocked with what Anders did that i ended up killing him. On my 2nd play tho i let him go, but made it clear he was lucky i didnt kill him.

On the 3rd playthrough and after reading Asunder and Dragon Age Comic (the one that happens in the circle and a mage and a templar fall in love and have a child), and because i had more than enough time to stomach the atrocity Anders commited, i finally started seeing his way. And now i agree with what he did. I wish it would be possible through the game to get some insight into what his intentions were and actually end up helping him do it in the end, and probably do it in a different way so that less people would have to die because of it.

 

The truth is, the mages are nothing more than glorified prisoners just for the reason that they were born with a connection to the fade. And the treatment they get from theTemplars is completely out of hand, and no mage should have to suffer that just because they were born "special". For the Circles to be effective and the templars a fair and just organization, the whole system needs to change. What Anders did was despicable and horrendous in the eyes of pretty much everyone, but someone needed to do something. And he knew what he did was awful, even though Justice was probably the trigger that made him do it. The crime he commited pales in comparison to the crimes the Templars commited to all the mages in the past 10 years (and even longer) and they never had to answer for it.

 

Demonic possession is a very serious subject and does require measures to ensure it doesnt happen. But why do the mages have to stay confined to the Towers all their life? Dragging them to the circle might be bad, but is required so they learn about the fade and learn how to control their abilities and so they have a fighting chance against demons that might attack their minds. But after they've learned what they can, why cant they be free to go back to their homes and families? Specially with the Harrowing at the end of their training, if they pass it and succeed against demonic possession they should be allowed to return to their homes, or go wherever they want to. If later it is learned they are using blood magic, than by all means, hunt them down, call them maleficar, burn them at the stake. But hunting down mages and calling them maleficar just because they refuse to spend their lives in confinement, guarded by hostile templars, is completely wrong.

 

If the templars just force them to go to the towers, but only for whatever years are required for them to learn and pass their Harrowing, there would be a drastic drop in "maleficar" numbers, and the maleficar term would only be rightly used on those who fell to use blood magic (becoming countless times more vulnerable to demons).

 

Force the mages to train and learn how to control their abilities, yes, that should be done. Completely cut them off of having a "normal" life by sending them to Circle prisons until they die, thats wrong. And no ammount of words or peace talks would ever change the system, So if you ask me about Anders, id say that what he did was wrong, but it was necessary. And what happens next is in the hands of both parties, not just the one (templars). It will be bloody, it will be awful, but i hope in the end, what comes of it (and with a little help from the Inquisitor i assume) is a new system to regulate (not control) mages across Thedas. I think something like the phylacteries should still be used to find the mages if they become maleficar, but they should be allowed to go free after their training.

 

This is what im hoping will be possible to achieve in Inquisition regarding the mage-templar conflict. And if Anders shows up at some point to help on the matter, ill gladly take his help (unless he is so far gone within Justice/Vengeance that all the options he sees is killing everyone who's not a mage, then yes, id stab him in the heart).

[Sable Rhapsody]

Huh? Gaider has never said Anders' calling will be negated. I need a source for that, because that is a very large claim.

 

Might be getting confused with Alistair.  He may never have to go on the Calling because of his mother's particular circumstances.

[Milan92]

Might be getting confused with Alistair.  He may never have to go on the Calling because of his mother's particular circumstances.

 

He either gets saved by his mother or his super-duper dragonblood will save him 

[AresKeith]

He either gets saved by his mother or his super-duper dragonblood will save him 

 

Your just jelly you don't have an awesome bloodline  

[Sable Rhapsody]

He either gets saved by his mother or his super-duper dragonblood will save him 

 

Hey, as consolation he can be a useless drunk or dead in player worldstates 

[Hellion Rex]

Might be getting confused with Alistair.  He may never have to go on the Calling because of his mother's particular circumstances.

Doubt it. He was still tainted by taking the Joining. It might be because of his dragon blood, if anything.

[Hellion Rex]

He either gets saved by his mother or his super-duper dragonblood will save him 

Doubt it. His mother lost the Taint, and Alistair Tainted himself with the Joining.

[Milan92]

Doubt it. His mother lost the Taint, and Alistair Tainted himself with the Joining.

 

Yeah, but Fiona knows the cure right? And wouldn't his dragonblood prevent his calling to happen?

 

I remember reading something like that.

[Sable Rhapsody]

Doubt it. He was still tainted by taking the Joining. It might be because of his dragon blood, if anything.

 

I keep forgetting about his dragon blood because I've never read any of the comics.  Oops.

[SmilesJA]

Oh come on! Why is every warden's calling getting called off, but the warden has to go through with it.

 

It kinda makes the calling seem pointless now.....

[AresKeith]

Oh come on! Why is every warden's calling getting called off, but the warden has to go through with it.

 

To be fair, what's happening to Anders is kinda worse lol

 

Yeah, but Fiona knows the cure right? And wouldn't his dragonblood prevent his calling to happen?

 

I remember reading something like that.

 

I doubt Fiona knows the cure, that would be beyond ridiculous 

[Lulupab]

Huh? Gaider has never said Anders' calling will be negated. I need a source for that, because that is a very large claim.

 

Here is the source. Mind you he said Justice might be able to do it and he didn't guarantee it will happen due to possibility of Anders appearing in future games.

 

http://swooping-is-b...om/1286233.html

[Sports72Xtrm]

Huh? Gaider has never said Anders' calling will be negated. I need a source for that, because that is a very large claim.

http://swooping-is-b...om/1286233.html

 

TUK: Can I ask, what effect if any Anders being merged with Justice is going to have on his Calling?

DG: Uh...interesting. I'm getting some...okay, it's gone now, I was hearing a mental voice there, it was weird. [laughter] There were some plans to address that but in the end it became very complicated. I think there are a couple possibilities. One is that the spirit within Anders can affect the level of his corruption, so it may delay or remove the necessity for his Calling altogether. Either that or at some point the corruption within Anders is going to corrupt the spirit. I think those are the two most likely outcomes. I'm not going to say which of those we prefer, because Anders can survive DA2 so therefore there's a possibility that we may need him in the future.

[Hellion Rex]

Here is the source. Mind you he said Justice might be able to do it and he didn't guarantee it will happen due to possibility of Anders appearing in future games.

 

http://swooping-is-b...om/1286233.html

 

http://swooping-is-b...om/1286233.html

Well *expletive*. For God's sake...

 

Regardless, that doesn't prevent Justice from making Anders go batcrap crazy. I think you're either gonna get an Anders corpse possessed by Justice or an insane Anders.