Well *expletive*. For God's sake...
IMO at this point in the story, Anders/Justice's role in the mage-templar war is more important to the plot than Anders having taken the Joining. It's only relevant at the beginning of DA2 when you need Warden maps, and possibly Anders to save your sibling's life.
Interesting interview in general, though. I've seen snippets of it floating around, but never the whole thing. Thanks for providing links, guys!
Well *expletive*. For God's sake...
Regardless, that doesn't prevent Justice from making Anders go batcrap crazy. I think you're either gonna get an Anders corpse possessed by Justice or an insane Anders.
First of all I'm not expecting a fairy tale but I honestly cannot fathom how one can make that claims after seeing a sparing a 100% friend Anders. It just doesn't seem possible. He can get killed and not die as in Justice still going on but if he is alive he is not going to appear as boogyman, that would make no sense with his friendship route. Again I do blame the horrible approval system because this outcome is possible with rival Anders.
I can see Anders curing Tranquils, all he has do is to *hug* them.
Friend or no, a crap ton can change in 5 years, especially with an unstable possession with an upper level spirit.
Friend or no, a crap ton can change in 5 years, especially with an unstable possession with an upper level spirit corrupted into a demon
FTFY
Friend or no, a crap ton can change in 5 years, especially with an unstable possession with an upper level spirit.
Anders should lead the mages in Inquisition.
Ah, good correction!
A demon called himself a Spirit of Sloth. Guess it wasn't a Sloth Demon after all. Oh, and that Spirit of Rage? Totes not a demon, because it was called a Spirit of Rage, not a Demon of Rage. There's a difference, you see.
Well he is recognized as a spirit by a a demon in the fade. You'd think demons are quite capable of recognizing their kind, no? Frankly its a much bigger evidence that some random BSN member's opinion.
When was the last time you heard a demon refer to itself as a "demon?" The demon in Asunder describes itself as a spirit, as does Merrill's pride demon. Demons don't seem to differentiate between denizens of the Fade; to them, everything originating from their side of the Veil is a spirit.
I think we can safely agree that however long he's been in the mortal realm, the residents of the Fade would still recognize Justice as one of their own.
Well he is recognized as a spirit by a a demon in the fade. You'd think demons are quite capable of recognizing their kind, no? Frankly its a much bigger evidence that some random BSN member's opinion.
They are the same damn thing. Being called a spirit does not make you good.
Imshael, one of the oldest demons in existence, likes to be called a "spirit". So your point is null and void.
They are the same damn thing. Being called a spirit does not make you good.
Imshael, one of the oldest demons in existence, likes to be called a "spirit". So your point is null and void.
When was the last time you heard a demon refer to itself as a "demon?" The demon in Asunder describes itself as a spirit, as does Merrill's pride demon. Demons don't seem to differentiate between denizens of the Fade; to them, everything originating from their side of the Veil is a spirit.
I think we can safely agree that however long he's been in the mortal realm, the residents of the Fade would still recognize Justice as one of their own.
It called them that so Hawke would kill them. :/
They are the same damn thing. Being called a spirit does not make you good.
Imshael, one of the oldest demons in existence, likes to be called a "spirit". So your point is null and void.
Still he helps free Feynriel from being prey to a demon when everyone else was tempted by demons. I've never seen demons help other people with out any expectation of reward. And he doesn't dominate Anders unless he blithely tries to ignore his conscience or if Anders gets angry. You can't just dismiss Justice/Vengence as a demon and thus "bad". It's not that simple.
It called them that so Hawke would kill them. :/
Still he helps free Feynriel from being prey to a demon when everyone else was tempted by demons. I've never seen demons help other people with out any expectation of reward. And he doesn't dominate Anders unless he blithely tries to ignore his conscience or if Anders gets angry. You can't just dismiss Justice/Vengence as a demon and thus "bad". It's not that simple.
Still he helps free Feynriel from being prey to a demon when everyone else was tempted by demons. I've never seen demons help other people with out any expectation of reward. And he doesn't dominate Anders unless he blithely tries to ignore his conscience or if Anders gets angry. You can't just dismiss Justice/Vengence as a demon and thus "bad". It's not that simple.
Yea we can because Vengence is the negative aspect of justice which would be "bad"
they call each other demons. Torpor calls the two demons fighting for control over Feynriel demons but calls Justice a spirit.
Torpor is also trying to sweet-talk Hawke into letting it corrupt Feynriel. I think it's a good idea to take its word with a grain of salt.
Still he helps free Feynriel from being prey to a demon when everyone else was tempted by demons. I've never seen demons help other people with out any expectation of reward. And he doesn't dominate Anders unless he blithely tries to ignore his conscience or if Anders gets angry. You can't just dismiss Justice/Vengence as a demon and thus "bad". It's not that simple.
Insert Solas's battle cry of "It's more complicated than that!" 
IMO, binary terms like "demon" or "spirit" don't help either. There seems to be more of a continuum, especially in Justice's case.
they call each other demons. Torpor calls the two demons fighting for control over Feynriel demons but calls Justice a spirit.
Ishmael also called himself a spirit and he only flayed/burned/broke in half some elves while they were still alive.
Ishmael also called himself a spirit and he only flayed/burned/broke in half some elves while they were still alive.
That makes him good, right?
Yea we can because Vengence is the negative aspect of justice which would be "bad"
That makes him good, right?
"Good"
"Bad"
None of this absolutes apply to ANYONE in Dragon Age because dragon age by very definition of its genre is a made based on grey morality. I'm sorry you didn't realize this.
You're evading the question. Just because Torpor called Justice a spirit, it doesn't automatically make him one since even one of the Forbidden Ones called itself a spirit before deciding to purge an entire clan.
That thug who wanted to kill and rape my Dwarf Noble seemed pretty "bad".
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