You do realize I was jesting? It was a response to Nohvarr's conspiracy theory that someone is pulling all strings.
Ah, so you didn't have a way to refute what Bioware itself has hinted at, which would in turn make Anders look like little more than a willing tool and the mage Rebelllion a mistake meant to bring the world one step closer to ruin at the hands of the Elder one, so you tried mockery which has failed miserably.
Noted.
That's not much of a conspiracy theory, Bioware even hinted at all of this being more than a coincidence
Yeah. I'm not fond of it, but it was mentioned the Elder One's been planning this and been trying to purposely make chaos in Thedas.
Ah how I enjoy the fact that it works both ways and we have given the responsibility of peace between mages and mundanes to drug addict maniacs who actually think maker is on their side and now are rouge as well.Ah, so you didn't have a way to refute what Bioware itself has hinted at, which would in turn make Anders look like little more than a willing tool and the mage Rebelllion a mistake meant to bring the world one step closer to ruin at the hands of the Elder one, so you tried mockery which has failed miserably.
Noted.
What if Justice is the Elder One?
What if Justice is the Elder One?
What if Justice is the Elder One?
No.
What if Vengeance is the Elder One?
Soooooo Ultron for DA:I Villain? 
also FTFY
Ah how I enjoy the fact that it works both ways and we have given the responsibility of peace between mages and mundanes to drug addict maniacs who actually think maker is on their side and now are rouge as well.
Satisfaction.
Um.....that's not who was trying to make peace....the Chantry called the Rogue Mages and Templars to a conclave and tried to work something out. From what we can tell all the reasonable people on both sides would've been there, so now we're left with the unreasonable ones (like Mages who kill innocent Civilians and Templars strung out on Red lyrium). We also now know that Cassandra is able to use Templar techniques without Lyrium so....yeah not sure what you are on about?
What if Justice is the Elder One?
I HOPE you're kidding.
Justice let Anders die because even he was tired of his whining.
The divine is an abomination. Confirmed.
That I concurr.
Not literally, of course, but she is one.
BOOM! Ah ah! BOOM!
The divine is an abomination. Confirmed.
Tell yourself that a few more times and you might actually start believing it.
Tell yourself that a few more times and you might actually start believing it.
Which is most likley the case anyways, then again, DA2 was so poorly written that it'd not strange trying to make DA2 sound better then it really was.
I thought DA2 was a great game.
I thought DA2 was a great game.
I never said it was not, all I said was the writing was poor, which except for some of the characters and most of act 2, is the case.
Calling it "desire" so openly and clearly shows how much this is your opinion and a biased one at that. Justice does not offer his opinion, he casts a judgement and he announces Templar oppression must stop. He is against a cat remaining in a bag, what do you think he feels about mages? Also Vengeance is a temporary form Justice takes when Anders have lost all control over himself. In other times its the same Justice, able to express himself through Anders, the fade encounter further proves this. Its pure Justice, Vengeance doesn't exist because Anders' anger doesn't exist to warp Justice in the fade as he is not in default control anymore.
Justice HIMSELF say that it is the desire of demons that have driven them to such a state. So no... It is not "bias" or "opinion" on my part. It is me quoting the creature who probably knows most about the subject matter.
And yes, Justice DOES voice an opinion. He does not think the Circle system is fair. That is his OPINION. And I am saying, that he has reached his conclusion without sufficient data. Because he would in the same breath say that any death caused by a mage would be unjust. Justice does not understand the waking world, so I would not refer to his judgement on ANY subject matter from this side of the Fade.
Anders and Justice does not cease to be one when they are in the Fade. The creature is STILL Vengeance
Furthermore Justice talks about taking revenge a few times in Awakening like when entering woods and seeing the dead bodies. His exact words: "These people must be avenged." Comparing his conversations in awakening and the ones in DA2, its exactly the justice we know from Awakening. His warping into Vengeance is always temporary.
Avenging is not the same as revenge.. Revenge is about retaliation, avenge is about seeking justice.... Buy one piece of english dictionary.. Please....
And no, he IS Vengeance. There is no "warping". There is no "temporate merging". The SECOND Anders and Justice merged, Justice became Vengeance. Anders himself even says so. And his word is law, am I right?
And yes, Justice DOES voice an opinion. He does not think the Circle system is fair. That is his OPINION. And I am saying, that he has reached his conclusion without sufficient data. Because he would in the same breath say that any death caused by a mage would be unjust. Justice does not understand the waking world, so I would not refer to his judgement on ANY subject matter from this side of the Fade.
Anders and Justice does not cease to be one when they are in the Fade. The creature is STILL Vengeance
Avenging is not the same as revenge.. Revenge is about retaliation, avenge is about seeking justice.... Buy one piece of english dictionary.. Please....
And no, he IS Vengeance. There is no "warping". There is no "temporate merging". The SECOND Anders and Justice merged, Justice became Vengeance. Anders himself even says so. And his word is law, am I right?
When Anders is calm the creature of Vengeance is none-existent. Sometimes Anders fully passes out like that one time in chantry, he is like "noooooo" gets unconscious then Vengeance comes out. I am thankful you ended this argument against your favor, your stretching was getting tiring, as usual. When questioned about Vengeance Anders says.
Gaider confirmed there are demons of retribution, so aveneg, revenge, vendetta are from same source in Thedas. Again another stretch. Justice is temporarily warped by Anders' anger, period. I have a bridge to sell you if you think otherwise.
The only stretching going on here is your definition of the word: non-existant. Apparently, according to you, being inactive, is the same as being non-existant. Now any sane person could probably explain to you how that is faulty reasoning, but then again, any sane person would have long given up...
And Gaider said that Spirits of Justice could be warped into demons aswell. Which is oddly fitting to the subject matter. He also said that some of the more advanced Rage Demons personified some more intricate emotions such as: Vengeance. Again oddly fitting.
Justice/Vengeance is a creepy lurker.
Correction: He said demon of retribution, not Vengeance. So forget about your holy kind of none-demony avenge thingy. The emotion is the same and stems from mortal desire to correct a wrong whatever you want to name it the source of this emotion is the same.The only stretching going on here is your definition of the word: non-existant. Apparently, according to you, being inactive, is the same as being non-existant. Now any sane person could probably explain to you how that is faulty reasoning, but then again, any sane person would have long given up...
And Gaider said that Spirits of Justice could be warped into demons aswell. Which is oddly fitting to the subject matter. He also said that some of the more advanced Rage Demons personified some more intricate emotions such as: Vengeance. Again oddly fitting.
So we need to kill both then? Okay.
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