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[LOLandStuff]

Elthina was useless and stupid for hoping things will cool down on their own. Three years passed and everything was getting even worse than before. But I can't agree with what Anders did either, my house was just across the street. I got trapped in the Deep Roads and nearly got my brother killed for that mansion up in Hightown. Guy even moved in my house...what was he thinking?

[House Lannister]

That's a really simple analysis of the problem there. He did not just woke up one day thinking "Hm, what a beautiful day. I'm gonna blow up the Chantry with the Grand Cleric inside". 

 

It still makes him a terrorist, no matter how you try to butter it up.

 

My mage Hawke agreed that the Circle had to be destroyed and collateral damages such as this was inevitable. However, she knew that killing Anders was probably in her best interest so it wouldn't make her seem the enemy.

[LukaCrosszeria]

I wouldn't mind seeing Anders again. I also let him live, my Hawke doesn't go around killing his companions.

[Sable Rhapsody]

After today's stream, I want to see Anders and Vivienne butt heads.  Just think of the glorious, vicious snark!

[SmilesJA]

After today's stream, I want to see Anders and Vivienne butt heads.  Just think of the glorious, vicious snark!

 

I think it's going more hostile than what you're suggesting, considering what Anders did.

[thats1evildude]

I think at least half the fanbase killed him (including myself), so he can't really have a substantive role.

 

If alive, you'll probably either be limited to a mention of him or Justice will have completely taken over.

[Sable Rhapsody]

I think it's going more hostile than what you're suggesting, considering what Anders did.

 

I'm not entirely opposed to that either 

[blindcathar]

Yeah I gather that Anders is pretty controversial in the fandom.

 

While personally I would never support his decision, as a narrative device it was a pretty incredible moment, and my pro-mage Hawke understood its necessity. So I hope to see him too.

[Beautiful Doubt]

Well I, for one, loved Anders. I am almost to a point Id say that Anders was the focus point of the story. Sure hawkes great, but Hawkes story is about getting their estate back. The real thing that progresses the DA story line is Anders destruction of the Chantry.
I dont approve of the murders but in war sometimes blood is needed to progress. The mages needed a sign that they werent alone, so the chantry destroyed the mages could fight for freedom. No one should have to live bound to the will of another. It was true for Fenris, the same way it is true for Anders and the mages. Slavery, no matter its form, is wrong.
So I sneak quitely away in the aftermath with my mage rebel leader in tow.

I want more Andy in my DAI.

[Xilizhra]

I think at least half the fanbase killed him (including myself), so he can't really have a substantive role.

 

If alive, you'll probably either be limited to a mention of him or Justice will have completely taken over.

Wrex could be killed, and had a substantive role anyway.

[Sable Rhapsody]

Yeah I gather that Anders is pretty controversial in the fandom.

 

In the same way that ghost peppers are "pretty spicy." 

[riverbanks]

Wrex could be killed, and had a substantive role anyway.

 

For curiosity's sake, would you be okay if Anders played a substantive role that could easily be replaced by Nanders the eerily similar possessed apostate on playthroughs where he didn't survive Kirkwall?

 

Really not trying to instigate anything here, just curious if this is something Anders fans would feel is satisfying enough.

[Magdalena11]

I adore Anders' character and he's by far my favorite LI (because his friend-mance is so over-the-top ridiculously cute, TBH).  I almost never kill him.  Having said this, it's really tragic to see him disintegrating as the game progresses - to see what happened when Justice and anger combine with human frailty.  He had really lost himself at the end, no matter what Hawke could do or say.  Some people (and ideas) are broken, and some things you just don't do, like blowing up a building with innocent people inside.  If he'd gone after Meredith, who was the real source of the problem and also had the power to fight back, I'd say he was justified.

 

Anders may have been wrong, and he was definitely mad.  Even if he survived (on the run with my favorite Hawke), I really hope we don't see him.  His story wasn't going anywhere good.  Frankly, I think Justice may have driven the crime, but Justice would also demand his execution for it.  I think if Hawke spared him, he probably killed himself when the guilt got too great.  I guess we'll see.

[HiroVoid]

I adore Anders' character and he's by far my favorite LI (because his friend-mance is so over-the-top ridiculously cute, TBH).  I almost never kill him.  Having said this, it's really tragic to see him disintegrating as the game progresses - to see what happened when Justice and anger combine with human frailty.  He had really lost himself at the end, no matter what Hawke could do or say.  Some people (and ideas) are broken, and some things you just don't do, like blowing up a building with innocent people inside.  If he'd gone after Meredith, who was the real source of the problem and also had the power to fight back, I'd say he was justified.

 

Anders may have been wrong, and he was definitely mad.  Even if he survived (on the run with my favorite Hawke), I really hope we don't see him.  His story wasn't going anywhere good.  Frankly, I think Justice may have driven the crime, but Justice would also demand his execution for it.  I think if Hawke spared him, he probably killed himself when the guilt got too great.  I guess we'll see.

Yeah.  This is the main reason I'm curious about his role in the future since his future looked pretty bleak.  If I remember right, Justice does have a much bigger role on the rivalry path as well since Anders mentions blacking out and Justice taking over.

[thats1evildude]

Anders is "sort of" controversial in the same way that the darkspawn are "sort of" trying to hurt your feelings.

[Magdalena11]

Yeah.  This is the main reason I'm curious about his role in the future since his future looked pretty bleak.  If I remember right, Justice does have a much bigger role on the rivalry path as well since Anders mentions blacking out and Justice taking over.

I think Justice was taking over on the friendship path too, he just didn't admit it.  I sometimes don't tell loved ones things that I know will hurt them and that they can't do anything about (it's a personal failing), and I can't imagine a fictional character is all that different.  Anders was right about that - he was afraid Hawke would try to stop him, or worse, try to help.  Hawke would have thought long and hard about it if she'd known, and she might have killed him before he could plant the bomb if she'd known, the way my warden killed Danyla, out of mercy.

[Xilizhra]

For curiosity's sake, would you be okay if Anders played a substantive role that could easily be replaced by Nanders the eerily similar possessed apostate on playthroughs where he didn't survive Kirkwall?

 

Really not trying to instigate anything here, just curious if this is something Anders fans would feel is satisfying enough.

Yes.

[Lulupab]

I think Justice was taking over on the friendship path too, he just didn't admit it.  I sometimes don't tell loved ones things that I know will hurt them and that they can't do anything about (it's a personal failing), and I can't imagine a fictional character is all that different.  Anders was right about that - he was afraid Hawke would try to stop him, or worse, try to help.  Hawke would have thought long and hard about it if she'd known, and she might have killed him before he could plant the bomb if she'd known, the way my warden killed Danyla, out of mercy.

I don't know, the aftermath of spared Anders on friendship path was quite promising.

[Magdalena11]

Anders is "sort of" controversial in the same way that the darkspawn are "sort of" trying to hurt your feelings.

There is a difference.  Darkspawn really don't care about anyone's feelings.  Anders is sort of controversial in the same sense as Saruman (probably spelled it wrong) is sort of controversial.  Both characters started out as good people who did something dumb and lost control to something that destroyed them.

[veeia]

I love Anders but I kind of don't want to see him in Inquisition, because I have a feeling it wouldn't be a very happy encounter....I doubt they'll make his life any easier than the unending parade of misery it already was. XD

[TK514]

Maybe he'll get the ME3 Morinth treatment. That would be a nice sendoff for those that kept him alive.

[Xilizhra]

Maybe he'll get the ME3 Morinth treatment. That would be a nice sendoff for those that kept him alive.

That would be silly. Morinth only received such treatment due to being almost universally hated.

[TK514]

That would be silly. Morinth only received such treatment due to being almost universally hated.

You are way more optimistic or forgiving of the ME3 team than I am if you accept that as the reason. But I digress.

It fulfills the stipulation of being easily replaced by NAnders, doesn't require his VA to return, and conclusively wraps up the plot line of him being taken over by Vengeance.

[Xilizhra]

You are way more optimistic or forgiving of the ME3 team than I am if you accept that as the reason. But I digress.

It fulfills the stipulation of being easily replaced by NAnders, doesn't require his VA to return, and conclusively wraps up the plot line of him being taken over by Vengeance.

That'd attract far too much anger for not really much gain.

[TK514]

That'd attract far too much anger for not really much gain.

Honestly, I agree. I expect he'll get a line or two mentioning his role and what Hawke decided to do with him, and that will be it.