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[Mr.House]

Anders tries to kill an innocent mage, WHO CARES RIGHT!?

 

Anders was totes stable!

[Br3admax]

The killing like Isabela's not returning if approval is not high enough doesn't count. The devs just want to give you more control over the story.

Lol. It very much counts because it's something that without Hawke's intervention he will do, and with Hawke's intervention, he wants to do. Isabela is still a greedy ******, and Ander's is still crazy. regardless. 

I've seen you raging around that Anders' short story is not canon while wiki and wot consider it as such. Regardless he doesn't drink blood, it splashes into his mouth, there is a difference. Not to mention that particular Templar who bled deserved so much worse.

The wiki doesn't determine canon anymore than we do. He doesn't spit the blood out, so I pretty sure that qualifies as drinking it. The fact that he thinks it tastes good is just a bonus. 

Friend Anders has no blackouts.

Friend Anders still loses control of himself and falls more into Justice's mindset, which tries to kill random people all the way until the end.

 

Anything else? I'm sure you have more stretching in your sleeves so spill them out.

 

Yeah, I'm the one who's stretching it. "It doesn't count because it doesn't." 

[Lulupab]

That's like saying: I didn't stab him, he fell on the knife.

How can you stop blood from splashing on your face when someone dies right in front of your face?

Anders tries to kill an innocent mage, WHO CARES RIGHT!?
 
Anders was totes stable!

He doesn't kill in many of the playthroughs, the fact that he can listen and stop in his worse moments tells enough. His stability was not so bad compared to Kirkwall standards.

[LOLandStuff]

How can you stop blood from splashing on your face when someone dies right in front of your face?

 

Doesn't stop him from enjoying the taste tho.

[Mr.House]

Anders said the blood tasted good....

[Lulupab]

Lol. It very much counts because it's something that without Hawke's intervention he will do, and with Hawke's intervention, he wants to do. Isabela is still a greedy ******, and Ander's is still crazy. regardless.

No it doesn't he can hear and understand Hawke, a person he trusts and then he stops. That says enough. People losing it when they are angry is a quite common thing and most murders happen like that in real life. It doesn't make those people insane. Its scientifically proven that anger is temporary insanity.

The wiki doesn't determine canon anymore than we do. He doesn't spit the blood out, so I pretty sure that qualifies as drinking it. The fact that he thinks it tastes good is just a bonus.

That's actually a combat-style like the Reavers. Its not cannibalism, its the pure satisfaction feeling when an enemy of him dies. Given that he wants Vengeance, its quite fitting. The blood of my enemy.

Friend Anders still loses control of himself and falls more into Justice's mindset, which tries to kill random people all the way until the end.

At that point they are pretty much synced. Anders is Justice, so no. There are screenshots a few pages back. He does not loses himself, he want to do it with full consciousness.

[Dark Helmet]

Anders said the blood tasted good....

 

But it's okay because the guy was a Templar! They're not really people so it doesn't matter if people enjoy killing them...

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Wait what?

[herkles]

But it's okay because the guy was a Templar! They're not really people so it doesn't matter if people enjoy killing them...

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Wait what?

 

of course joining the templars is joining evil. you have to kick puppies and say "i love doing evil deeds" as part of your iniation.

 

meanwhile becoming a mage means you are a good person, and not evil and if bad things happen around you. it is never your fault it is those templars, or the chantry, or the king, or the peasents, but not you because you are a mage. 

[Lulupab]

of course joining the templars is joining evil. you have to kick puppies and say "i love doing evil deeds" as part of your iniation.
 
meanwhile becoming a mage means you are a good person, and not evil and if bad things happen around you. it is never your fault it is those templars, or the chantry, or the king, or the peasents, but not you because you are a mage.

You don't "become" a mage.

[Xilizhra]

It would if he were a Templar.

I think there's only one templar whose death is dependent on player action, and Karras will try to kill you if you aren't humorous or don't have Varric.

[Br3admax]

Way to dodge. 

[Dark Helmet]

Way to dodge. 

 

11/10

[Han Shot First]

Nope.


 

 

Yes.

 

Feel free to coddle the rebel mages in your game. I intend to have the Inquisitor crush them in mine.

[Dark Helmet]

I think there's only one templar whose death is dependent on player action, and Karras will try to kill you if you aren't humorous or don't have Varric.

 

Not if you hand the obvious blood mages over, nice evasion by the way I've totally forgotten about your templar killing "But I don't like to kill people if I can avoid it" ways.

[Xilizhra]

Way to dodge. 

Well, if there was a templar in my party who blew up the Chantry for this purpose... no, I don't think I'd kill them either.

[Lulupab]

Not if you hand the obvious blood mages over, nice evasion by the way I've totally forgotten about your templar killing "But I don't like to kill people if I can avoid it" ways.

According to Br3admax's definition of insane, all templars are insane thanks to being addicts.

[herkles]

Yes.

 

Feel free to coddle the rebel mages in your game. I intend to have the Inquisitor crush them in mine.

 

my first inquistor likely will do that, but she will also crush the rebel templars. Because to her both need to be brought back under chantry rule. 

[Dark Helmet]

According to Br3admax's definition of insane, all templars are insane thanks to being addicts.

 

You're misrepresenting again AND That's not really relevant to my point is it?

[Br3admax]

According to Br3admax's definition of insane, all templars are insane thanks to being addicts.

Let's assume that's true, even when that has next to nothing to do with what DH or I said, I gave a definition of insane? 

[Xilizhra]

Yes.

 

Feel free to coddle the rebel mages in your game. I intend to have the Inquisitor crush them in mine.

Fairly sure you can't crush both.

 

 

Not if you hand the obvious blood mages over, nice evasion by the way I've totally forgotten about your templar killing "But I don't like to kill people if I can avoid it" ways.

Me: "Ser Thrask asked me to help bring the mages in peacefully."

Karras: "Kill the traitor. And his friends."

[Dark Helmet]

 

 

 

Me: "Ser Thrask asked me to help bring the mages in peacefully."

Karras: "Kill the traitor. And his friends."

 

While I was perfectly happy to let Karras have the blood mages and fully encouraged him to show no mercy.

 

Of course Thrask apparently got them to show mercy... just another reason I'm glad Grace ended him before I ended her.

[Lulupab]

You're misrepresenting again AND That's not really relevant to my point is it?

It is related to that and your previous post. Mages are born that way, nothing much they can do about it. Templars choose to be drug addict maniacs. Excuse us if we protect the former from latter. Templars have shown many times over that they kill first and ask questions later. I don't see how you can deal with them if not killing them. Trust me when I say I never kill any if they give me no reason. Karras was Meredith's favorite btw.

[Xilizhra]

While I was perfectly happy to let Karras have the blood mages and fully encouraged him to show no mercy.

 

Of course Thrask apparently got them to show mercy... just another reason I'm glad Grace ended him before I ended her.

The point being that at no point did my Hawke make any choice to kill people she didn't have to kill.

[Han Shot First]

my first inquistor likely will do that, but she will also crush the rebel templars. Because to her both need to be brought back under chantry rule. 

 

That's how I'm going to play it as well. I'm going to have the Inquisitor be a ruthless Lawful Neutral sort, with absolutely no tolerance (or mercy) for anyone sowing chaos throughout the realm regardless of whether their cause is just or unjust. That will include rebel mages, templars who have broken from the Chantry, rebelling or rioting elves, humans responsible for unprovoked attacks on the elves, or Orlesian nobles or knights rebelling against Celene.

[Dark Helmet]

The point being that at no point did my Hawke make any choice to kill people she didn't have to kill.

 

I bet you feel extra toasty inside when you get to kill templars AND claim that it wasn't your fault.