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[Lulupab]

Effects of lyrium addiction include paranoia, obsession, and dementia. You be the judge.

[raging_monkey]

Aside from being addictive, lyrium is not like any recreational drug. To compare them simply for that is kind of ignorant.

agreed

[Sports72Xtrm]

Is it even possible to recover from lyrium withdrawal or do you just become parnoid, addicted, obsessed... well lyrium addled your whole life? If not then maybe comparing it to tobacco or alcahol isn't an apt comparison.

[raging_monkey]

Is it even possible to recover from lyrium withdrawal or do you just become parnoid, addicted, obsessed... well lyrium addled your whole life? If not then maybe comparing it to tobacco or alcahol isn't an apt comparison.

from what weve seen no its not possible to recover. But calling it heroine is also dubious assumption but what else do we call it

[The Hierophant]

Most nations could always get their lyrium from the Carta or that other dwarven nation. What, the dwarves are going to say no from profiteering from all sides? I doubt it.

This assumes that there's enough lyrium left that the Carta can smuggle to the poorer nations while an unrestrained Orlais, Nevarra, Tevinter or the Qunari are seeking to dominate the market. It would be a stretch for the wealthier nations to ignore the Carta, while i wouldn't be surprised if they paid for their services too.

[Br3admax]

Meredith had the power to block elections. the templars assigned to watch over the Circles of Magi in Kinloch Hold and Kirkwall are much more powerful, and in the case of Kirkwall, more powerful even than the civilian government in the city. Their powers are varied from province to province but I bet there are more places like Kirkwall. Because according to lore the only requirement to become a templars is wanting to become one, anyone can undergo the training that includes perverts and such as well. There is never shortage of recruits.

By all accounts, Kirkwall is the exception. One that we already went over and said was not the norm 3 years ago. 

 

Where were the "watchers of watchmen" aka the seekers when it all went down. 

I don't know. Where was the Divine when she let Blood Mages run through the Circle? Or stop Meredith from searching the Tower, which Orsino was conveniently able to do, even though Meredith is some type of totalitarian leader of the Circle.

 

A knight-commander's approval is required in everything in the circle. Its never the first Enchanter alone (who needs knight commander's approval to be elected anyway) they either decide something together or the knight commander decides it by himself.

Otherway around, Either they decide it together or the First Enchanter decides it themselves. Once again, you've pushed your opinion, inspite of almost all text pointing to the Circle being a mage run society. 

from codex: Driven by their faith, the templars are one of the most feared and respected forces in Thedas.

 

Too tired to look for more.

Too tired to look for any you mean. Nothing you gave supported your argument more than Kirkwall. And even that was really incorrect. Orsino clearly still had power over Meredith regarding the Circle. He walked right out of the Tower just to preach in the streets, but apparently, Meredith controls him. Yep. 

[Lulupab]

By all accounts, Kirkwall is the exception. One that we already went over and said was not the norm 3 years ago. 

I don't know. Where was the Divine when she let Blood Mages run through the Circle? Or stop Meredith from searching the Tower, which Orsino was conveniently able to do, even though Meredith is some type of totalitarian leader of the Circle.

 

 

Otherway around, Either they decide it together or the First Enchanter decides it themselves. Once again, you've pushed your opinion, inspite of almost all text pointing to the Circle being a mage run society. 

 

Too tired to look for any you mean. Nothing you gave supported your argument more than Kirkwall. And even that was really incorrect. Orsino clearly still had power over Meredith regarding the Circle. He walked right out of the Tower just to preach in the streets, but apparently, Meredith controls him. Yep. 

 

They are rampaging the world right now, how weak they must be. It takes one action to create a ripple effect, Kirkwall was enough. Now we know precautions should be made about Templar power in a region.

[MisterJB]

Because according to lore the only requirement to become a templars is wanting to become one, anyone can undergo the training that includes perverts and such as well. There is never shortage of recruits.

According to Anders. I expect there is some degree of oversight over who is accepted.

Besides, Anders was trying to disparate any and all who joined the Templars.

 

 

A knight-commander's approval is required in everything in the circle. Its never the first Enchanter alone (who needs knight commander's approval to be elected anyway) they either decide something together or the knight commander decides it by himself.

 

I doubt that's everything but, even if it is, then that's a good thing. It means they are compromising.

It seems most reasonable to have someone speaking for the non-mage population.

 

Honestly, if the oversight was as omnipresent as you're trying to make it seem, Fiona would have never been Grand Enchanter.
 

[Master Warder Z_]

According to Anders. I expect there is some degree of oversight over who is accepted.

 

I'd expect you would need to fit physical and mental criteria.

 

Like any militant body.

[EmperorSahlertz]

 

Meredith had the power to block elections. the templars assigned to watch over the Circles of Magi in Kinloch Hold and Kirkwall are much more powerful, and in the case of Kirkwall, more powerful even than the civilian government in the city.

 

In regards to Meredith blocking elections: It is called Martial law. Usually it means the one with the biggest army is calling the shots. In case of Kirkwall, that means Meredith. And it isn't unusual that an international military organization is more powerful than the civilian government. Just look at the UN armed forces, or hell even Blackwater/Academi.
There is no evidence whatsoever that the Templars in Kinloch Hold were holding any particular power over the mages, that Templars elsewhere doesn't share. Not to mention the Templars in Kinloch Hold didn't seem to hold all that power to begin with.

 

Their powers are varied from province to province but I bet there are more places like Kirkwall.

 

There is no evidence whatsoever (beginning to see a trend here) that Kirkwall isn't atypical.

 

Because according to lore the only requirement to become a templars is wanting to become one, anyone can undergo the training that includes perverts and such as well. There is never shortage of recruits.

 

Well.... When you put it like that... ANYONE can become a Marine, aslong as they desire to become one... That is of course a ludicrous statement, since the marines have a tough trainning regimen DESIGNED to weed out undesirables. There is no reason to think that the Tempalrs are any different, ESPECIALLY since they are considered a professional army.
 

Where were the "watchers of watchmen" aka the seekers when it all went down. 

Contrary to popular belief, the Seekers cannot be everywhere at anytime. The Seekers were probably investigating things, but tehre wasn't really anything worth investigating until ACt III and by that, things escalated too quickly anyway.

 

A knight-commander's approval is required in everything in the circle. Its never the first Enchanter alone (who needs knight commander's approval to be elected anyway) they either decide something together or the knight commander decides it by himself.

Incorrect. The First Enchanter chooses his own successor. If there is no successor the Knight-Commander appoints one, but must get the Senior Enchanters' approval first. Generally speaking there usually is appointed a successor to the First Enchanter long before the current First Enchanter even retires.

[Sports72Xtrm]

from what weve seen no its not possible to recover. But calling it heroine is also dubious assumption but what else do we call it

How about cocaine and steroids got together and had a baby? It's an extremely addictive drug with numerous adverse effects but its also a performance enhancer so the junkies can feel justified in using it.

[raging_monkey]

How about cocaine and steroids got together and had a baby? It's an extremely addictive drug with numerous adverse effects but its also a performance enhancer so the junkies can feel justified in using it.

ok thats so much more better imo.

Magical steriods, all the benefits of killing magi but without the "shrinking" of their swords XD

[(Disgusted noise.)]

According to the Keep, it looks like Anders survives in the default world state. I wonder what that will mean for the game.

[Hazegurl]

According to the Keep, it looks like Anders survives in the default world state. I wonder what that will mean for the game.

 I think it was hinted that even if you murder knife Anders's body, the demon is still around.

[ZerioctheTank]

According to the Keep, it looks like Anders survives in the default world state. I wonder what that will mean for the game.

..................thank the maker I'm not using the default state. Just....ewwwww! No way in hell would I......just.....no.......NO!!!!

[Cerulione]

..................thank the maker I'm not using the default state. Just....ewwwww! No way in hell would I......just.....no.......NO!!!!

 

...seconded.

[old_dawn]

Hey everyone, thanks for reading. So I seem to remember that it was possible to persuade Anders to not carry out his infamous deed in DA2 cause I remember seeing a video of it on youtube. Only if Hawke is in a friendmance with him. But now I can't find it! Also was it a deleted content or part of the vanilla game (cause it's not available as a choice in the keep)?

[(Disgusted noise.)]

Hey everyone, thanks for reading. So I seem to remember that it was possible to persuade Anders to not carry out his infamous deed in DA2 cause I remember seeing a video of it on youtube. Only if Hawke is in a friendmance with him. But now I can't find it! Also was it a deleted content or part of the vanilla game (cause it's not available as a choice in the keep)?

On the rival path, you can convince Anders to change his mind about his plan. However, off screen he blacks out and Justice takes over and sets it up anyway which still leads to the same result.

[Stronglav]

According to the Keep, it looks like Anders survives in the default world state. I wonder what that will mean for the game.

 

Great.I can kill him again.

[Xilizhra]

..................thank the maker I'm not using the default state. Just....ewwwww! No way in hell would I......just.....no.......NO!!!!

What, no way in hell would you have mercy?

[Br3admax]

Allow an abomination to live. 

[Erinski92]

Allow an abomination to live. 

 

Yep. He's proven he can't control his actions. 

[Xilizhra]

Allow an abomination to live. 

That's such a weighted term.

 

 

Yep. He's proven he can't control his actions. 

Only if you rival him.

[Stronglav]

Only if you rival him.

 

LOLWUT?

[Xilizhra]

LOLWUT?

On the friendship path, he blows up the Chantry because he sees it as necessary, not because Justice hijacks his body as on rivalry.