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[AresKeith]

Here's how Anders will appear in DAI if alive: 

 

And here's how Anders will appear in DAI if dead: 

 

 

Actually his abomination form should reflect what Vengeance should look like

[Han Shot First]

Once, I saw this on Youtube. And I totally agree:

 

 

To be fair, Anders was as bad for Justice as Justice was for Anders. Justice was also altered by Anders' influence. Without joining with Anders, Justice doesn't become obsessed with the plight of mages and morph into a spirit of vengeance. They sort of corrupt each other.

[ParagonStovus]

 I wonder if we'll ever find out what happened to Anders in the event that he is convinced at 100% rivalry to help put down the mage revolt that he/Justice started. Did he really commit suicide? Did Hawke execute him? Did the Templars make him Tranquil? (is that even possible with Anders?) In any case, he clearly didn't wish to live beyond the annulling of the Circle.

 

   This is by far my favourite ending for Anders's character, despite its ambiguity. I hope that we will at least hear of his fate in this instance at some point. Personally, I think that he died soon after, either at Hawke's hand or by taking his own life.

[Chari]

I didn't kill Anders in my main play through cuz he was my buddy in DAA and saved Carver's butt
But I sent him away and I do not want to meet him again. He just plainly betrayed me when he stole Justice, and Hawke when he destroyed everything she worked so hard to achieve

[Warden Commander Aeducan]

I didn't kill Anders in my main play through cuz he was my buddy in DAA and saved Carver's butt
But I sent him away and I do not want to meet him again. He just plainly betrayed me when he stole Justice, and Hawke when he destroyed everything she worked so hard to achieve

I like to think that the reason I choose to kill Anders in my main (canon) play through is to free him from his misery. Anders was self loathing, self tormenting, obsessed during Act 3, and as a friend who owe him I couldn't let him suffer, and I couldn't let him walk away with his crime. I take no joy in killing him though.

[Cyrus Amell]

I didn't kill Ander's the first time because he was my healer (really, that was the only thing staying my blade). I choose not to kill him in later play-throughs because the first rp priority for my Hawke is to butcher any templars who dare to harm my sister Bethany in the Gallows Circle and I will need this *******'s help to do that.

 

If he lived he likely fell in with one of the revolutionary mage cells in the area, although he may be driven to help the refugees that have been left adrift from this war. If he is dead we will likely have to deal with Vengeance, Justice's corrupt form.

[Xilizhra]

Here's how Anders will appear in DAI if alive: 

 

And here's how Anders will appear in DAI if dead: 

 

You know, 'tis just as legitimate for me to brag about how there are no more bloody city elves in Inquisition. Moreso, really, because that's proven.

 

But I don't. Because that would be a dick move.

[The Librarian]

I killed the bloody bastard in every single play through. He is a hypocrite, very dangerous and he honestly don't care about the others mages.

Yes. I just said that. But it is true. Anders don't care if other mages will die or if they don't want a war. Anders did what he did purely based on how he felt and viewed it. Sure, this is partly because of Justice/Vengance, but he also did that willingly.

 

When it comes down to it, it is as immoral as it is stupid to let a possessed terrorist mage run free.

[EdwinLi]

Honestly killing him felt just didn't suit me because I will be giving him what he wants.

 

Anders did what he did fully knowing, either through Friend route or Rival route, that he will be killed for starting the Mage vs Templar war.

 

Giving Anders what he wants isn't a punishment and it also would have made him into a Martyr for a good amount of Rebel Mages. 

 

I let Anders live so he will have to live with his crimes and work to atone for it even if it takes him the rest of his life. 

[Medhia_Nox]

I let Anders walk the world to see what his mania had caused. 

 

My Inquisitor on the other hand will brand the fool if he comes anywhere near Skyhold and I'll say:  "Hey, didn't they do this to your boyfriend too?"  "T" STAMP. 

[R0vena]

 

Giving Anders what he wants isn't a punishment and it also would have made him into a Martyr for a good amount of Rebel Mages. 

 

 

 

Anders thought he would be a martyr, but it doesn't mean he was right. I don't think I saw a single mage who approved of his actions so far. (Granted, I haven't finished Last Flight yet.)

[ummiehummie]

While my views on Anders are not exactly the best (as someone who romanced him then broke up with him at the end; needed a Sprit Healer or he would've been dead), I felt so awful about Justice.  I loved his character in Awakening and he becomes this?  Love him or hate him, a potential appearance of Anders/Justice in Inquisition would be very fascinating IMO.

 

BTW, what language is that?  Dutch?

 

Ikr... It would be awesome to see him in DA:I IMO.
I didn't kill him in my playthrough just because of the fond memories we have with him in Awakening. And he was very useful indeed.

 

Good guess. It is Dutch :>

[Finnn62]

In my game, Hawke let Anders live after siding with the Templars. Anders sounded like he was going to kill himself, but I wouldn't mind seeing him again for a little bit. Maybe there could be a reunion with Ser Pounce-a-Lot to cheer him up? 

[heretica]

Here's how Anders will appear in DAI if alive: 

 

 

And here's how Anders will appear in DAI if dead: 

 

 

 

 

 

Mean person. 

 

[Lulupab]

Once, I saw this on Youtube. And I totally agree:

 

That person never made Anders a friend. God I hate DA2 approval system, mostly because there are many people who don't know a rival companion is so much different than a friend one. This is ten times more true about Anders.

[Lulupab]

That assumes that Anders can control Justice, and it was proven throughout the game that he cannot. Over the course of the seven years (?) that DA2 spanned, Anders condition progressively worsened and he was more consumed by the influence of Justice. Anders even says so himself.
 
By the end of DA2 it seems impossible to allow Anders to live and not have a trail of bodies left in his wake. Anders isn't exactly an abomination, but he is something similar to it. Like a rabid dog, he needs to be put down.

 
This is false on so many levels, again you need to friend Anders and spare him, he is more sane than ever. Rabid dog? Please.

[Sable Rhapsody]

Anders thought he would be a martyr, but it doesn't mean he was right. I don't think I saw a single mage who approved of his actions so far. (Granted, I haven't finished Last Flight yet.)

 

Mage!Hawke can  Oh, Hawke.  You crazy diamond.

 

On a more serious note, I think Anders was deep enough into his self-delusion that he forgot mages are hardly a homogenous group.  You've got apostates like him who actively fight, apostates who just want to be left alone, mages in the Wardens, Circle loyalists, moderates, Libertarians, Isolationists, mage supremacists, Resolutionists...and that's just within mainstream Chantry nations.  Outside that there are Dalish keepers, Rivaini wise women, saarebas, Tevinter magisters, Mortalitasi, Witches of the Wilds, barbarian shamans...it's just dizzying.  

 

Yet Anders decided that all these people were sufficiently similar for him to raise a standard of violent rebellion in their name.  Especially by Act 3, I don't think he sees mages or templars as individual people anymore.

[R0vena]

 

Yet Anders decided that all these people were sufficiently similar for him to raise a standard of violent rebellion in their name.  Especially by Act 3, I don't think he sees mages or templars as individual people anymore.

No, I also don't think so. And It began long ago. When Grace is asking Hawke to kill Trask Anders eagerly agrees, saying "it is just one Templar", completely forgetting this Templar is a good man and asked Hawke to help these mages to begin with. But he is a Templar and the others are mages, end of story, other methods are not even thought of. In the 3d Act this escalates through the roof.

 

I am afraid with such rate Anders will be much worse if we see him in Inquisition.

[R0vena]

 
This is false on so many levels, again you need to friend Anders and spare him, he is more sane than ever. Rabid dog? Please.

I both friended and rivaled Anders,and romanced him on both,  but I got the impression he only seems more or less sane if romanced on Friendship.

 

edit: meaning just Friend Anders still seems kind of unstable to me.

[Lulupab]

I both friended and rivaled Anders,and romanced him on both,  but I got the impression he only seems more or less sane if romanced on Friendship.
 
edit: meaning just Friend Anders still seems kind of unstable to me.

No he isn't "unstable" or less sane. Call him murderer, evil whatever... But he is completely sane and aware of what he is doing. Actually in friendship he is the one planning the Chantry incident, or at least he does it willingly without any influence from Justice. So when you kill him you are not killing a psychopath losing himself to a 2nd personality (rivalry) but a human being who is willing to die for his ideals.

[R0vena]

No he isn't "unstable" or less sane. Call him murderer, evil whatever... But he is completely sane and aware of what he is doing. Actually in friendship he is the one planning the Chantry incident, or at least he does it willingly without any influence from Justice. So when you kill him you are not killing a psychopath losing himself to a 2nd personality (rivalry) but a human being who is willing to die for his ideals.

Well, for starters I never called him anything. More so, he is alive and well in half of my playthroughs. 

Second, Anders says a lot of things, but it doesn't mean he is saying the truth. It might be just my impression, but I always thought he is lying to Hawke about Justice on Friendship - so he/she will not worry. On Rivalry he doesn't care and tells the truth.

[Adanu]

Agreed.  Getting him to help stop the mage threat is the best way for him to make up for his actions and afterwards can hopefully put his life in his own hands instead of Justice.

 

What mage threat? The only thing the Kirkwall circle did was watch the Chantry blow up. Meredith was the insane one who decided to kill without sufficient cause.

 

Anders had sufficient cause to retaliate against the mage oppressors in the chantry. Meredith... had her own insane paranoia.

[HiroVoid]

What mage threat? The only thing the Kirkwall circle did was watch the Chantry blow up. Meredith was the insane one who decided to kill without sufficient cause.

 

Anders had sufficient cause to retaliate against the mage oppressors in the chantry. Meredith... had her own insane paranoia.

And Anders afterwards figured out sufficient cause to help Hawke prevent the mage threat from engulfing Thedas.

[Br3admax]

lol. The Chantry isn't the one oppressing mages. But you know, even if it was, that's sufficient cause to kill hundreds of people. 

[Sable Rhapsody]

lol. The Chantry isn't the one oppressing mages. But you know, even if it was, that's sufficient cause to kill hundreds of people. 

 

If only Anders had blown up the qunari compound instead of the Chantry