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Flemeth orchestrating the breach? Hawke dead = No breach?


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SomeoneStoleMyName

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"Is it fate or chance, I can never tell" - Flemeth.

What if she knew you were the son of Malcom Hawke.
And letting you live would lead to Corypheus being free.

Think about it. If not for Flemeth - Corypheus would never have been freed.
Meaning the breach wouldnt have happened?

If Flemeth hadnt intervened, Hawke would be dead - Corypheus never freed and the breach not happened.

Im probably missing something? :P



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Corypheus would have been freed eventually, his presence was corrupting the minds of the Grey Wardens around him. When it would come time for the seals on his prison to be strengthened the corrupted wardens would have just allowed the seals to fail thus leading to his release; Hawke's presence wasn't fate but just the acceleration of the inevitable.

 

Also, saying Corypheus is the big bad is only speculation at this point, one that can be brought into question considering that the writers have said that the big bad has been working on their scheme since before the events of DA:2.

 

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Damnit Hawke

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That's assuming Corypheus is the Elder One. Which is kinda of speculation at this point like you said. Also, the Mage Templar War would have started regardless of Hawke, as would any major event in DA 2. It's the sad truth of that game for some: Hawke was more of a bystander of events than an agent of them. That being said Hawke may play a important role in closing the Breach.

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If there were no Hawke, Flemeth would have found another chump. After all, she had time after she sent Morrigan away to go find someone to take the amulet to Meratheri in the Marches.

 

As to Corypheus, I doubt that factored into Flemeth's thoughts at all.

 

Also, the chances of Corypheus being the Elder One are in the single digits, in my opinion. It's too easy an explaination. Besides, the Elder One shouldn't be some confused tainted magister. He should be a new entity entirely. Corypheus seems to be the Saruman to the Elder One's Souron.



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If there were no Hawke, Flemeth would have found another chump. After all, she had time after she sent Morrigan away to go find someone to take the amulet to Meratheri in the Marches.

 

As to Corypheus, I doubt that factored into Flemeth's thoughts at all.

 

Also, the chances of Corypheus being the Elder One are in the single digits, in my opinion. It's too easy an explaination. Besides, the Elder One shouldn't be some confused tainted magister. He should be a new entity entirely. Corypheus seems to be the Saruman to the Elder One's Souron.

 

 

I agree with your first sentiment. Whoever is charged with delivering messages and packages in Thedas is pretty damn good at their job considering a letter can get from Lothering to Gamlen's hovel quite reliably (Bethany Hawke's correspondence). Flemeth could have simply hired one of those guys.

 

Corypheus is a sideshow compared to the Elder One, but his role is important. Think about it, the Inquisition strives to be a massive paramilitary organization spanning the whole of Thedas. That pretty much describes the Grey Wardens to a tee. Despite their obligation to counter the Darkspawn there is nothing stopping the First Warden from turning the full might of the order to fighting this new demonic threat, which is certainly as dangerous as the Darkspawn. With Corypheus having apparently caused some unrest or even a full-blown civil war among the Grey Wardens, it really does fall solely on the Inquisition to fill the void left by the templars and mages in the wake of their own war.

 

As for Hawke, the Champion really was just a bystander in all of this nonsense. There was not a signal substantial thing we could have done in Dragon Age II to change anything. Even if we had killed Anders for no given reason early on things might have still popped. Why? Well, there are more mages now than before. It has been bandied about in some tavern talk back in DA2 that there has been an unusual population boon of mages in recent years. This means there are more and more mages that need to be penned up in Circle Towers. I imagine that when there was only 1 mage for every 10 templars, they could easily be controlled. But what about 3 mages for every 10 templars, perhaps more? Then things get interesting.

 

The Chantry was playing with fire from the start, they were priests trying to control an army of knights with addictive lyrium treatment who were in turn charged with controlling mages who range from apprentices to seasoned Enchanters who rival Tevinter Archons in power. Now the whole house is burning....


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