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Actually I am getting quite pissed off with these super uber monstrosities that virtually impossible for anyone to beat and play close to fair. It is goddam ludicrous .
Running round and round in fknn circles trying to take potshots at at weaving target who only has to hit you once,
No wonder people cheat, no I am sorry but if every encounter on every planet has an over the top kill factor you can shove it.,
I am going to have to edit some thing to lower this difficulty cause I am on the easiest setting. I really regret buying pinnacle stn, I am mad as a meat axe with this at the moment I would like to say things that a renegade would truly . I gotta go. Never has a game riled me so muchImage IPBImage IPBImage IPBImage IPB

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Use the Mako. Or, if you really must do it on foot, kill the Thresher Maw by staying the hell away from it (i.e. far enough that its health bar doesn't show), and keep shooting it while running in circles around the bastard. It'll die... eventually. Also, don't mind the squaddies, if they fall leave'em there and keep shooting.

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Dethateer, I just made a coffee and cooled my heels, Its just I am at a fair distanceaway and moving fairly quick which makes it hard to get a bead on it. I have not tried the machine gun and I have not tried on foot as I thought that might be a bit unrealistic. I cant react that fast and it seem s that if do not have these reskills the game just punishes you and I am sick of replaying sequences, I am basically playing for the great story and the characters but I feel hyped up and this overkill is ruining my experience.

Will try on foot but I already went back to Normany to get Tali caus I could not find out what the probe was all about as I had Ashley for thr first time sinc the beginning and I was expecting trouble but not on this level of difficulty when I reset my game to casual,

anyway I will try on foot before I reite for the night

thanks

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Uh, if you're in the Mako, then NEVER stop moving, a melee strike from that bastard will kill you, because someone forgot to place a range limiter on it, so you can be half a mile away, if it started the animation, you're screwed. Also, aim slightly to the left (assuming you're circling the thing clockwise), don't keep the crosshairs dead-on it, you're obviously going to miss if you do that.

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Pretty much just treat any Thresher Maw encounter like a Crimson Skies PvP match. Circle strafe the thing until it's dead. If you never stop moving and move in a wide circle none of it's attacks will ever hit you You might still get tossed if it erupts under or right next to you but that won't kill you while in the Mako. Just move in wider circles if that happens. Honestly, I've never had any trouble with the Thresher's except one on Insanity mode that kept erupting right next to me by some strange stroke of fate.

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They are a pain, but I agree with Deth. In the mako you can kill them in a few mins. Never tried it on foot tho.

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RoninJT wrote...

Pretty much just treat any Thresher Maw
encounter like a Crimson Skies PvP match. Circle strafe the thing until
it's dead. If you never stop moving and move in a wide circle none of
it's attacks will ever hit you You might still get tossed if it erupts
under or right next to you but that won't kill you while in the Mako.
Just move in wider circles if that happens. Honestly, I've never had
any trouble with the Thresher's except one on Insanity mode that kept
erupting right next to me by some strange stroke of fate.

Actually, once it goes under, you should move in random patterns, it always hits you when it comes back up if you simply move around in circles when it's underground.

As for killing them on foot... err... well, it's not particularly hard, but it takes a while. By which I mean "around half an hour of running around, pouring Inferno mark X with two Heat Dampners (i.e. 0 heat generated) and avoiding acid splashes".

Modifié par Dethateer, 24 janvier 2010 - 05:06 .


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On foot was a fiasco even with ashley But I tried a lineal approach and as soon as IT surfaced I blazed away with the machine gun and took off flat out to get out of range, repair the Mako and repeat the suicide run with the machine gun gun, I tried to have a few shots with canon but I cannot say whether I hit it or not but the machine gun did!.

At one point Ash said it was clear but it had gone back under and I died . I repeated this tactic and got the all clear again and made three or four runs thru with no sign of life . I could scarcley believe that it was dead. One tough mother, I know it is a very tactical game but the monsters are too powerful especially on easy casual.

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Just you wait until you find 'em on hard/hardcore. Then you get to kill each one twice, because they go under, you get your XP, and the next thing you know it's back up, throwing you around. Then you kill it again (it has very little health, but it'll still slaughter you if you're not ready), and get some moar XP.

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Yes it did flip me upside down and it took a while to figure out that the booster jets put it back on it wheels but it was too late then. but I got it the next time.

Bye the way How do you take a screen shot? The pace has been so frenetic I haven't had time to even think about taking one but there ar some great moments that would be good to capture.

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Printscreen button, then Alt-Tab, then new .bmp file, open that, Ctrl+V. Or, if you wanna take the long way (and remove the HUD too)... Gimmie a sec.
http://masseffect.wi.../wiki/PC_Tweaks

Look near the middle of the page.

Modifié par Dethateer, 24 janvier 2010 - 05:16 .


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I can't see me playing this on hardcore. It has been my first foray into guns etc, I have reached level 33 but it has been a slogfest of death andrepeated loading.

Never in the fantasy games even DAO has It been this hard for me and do play them on hardcore

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HEHEHE!!!



Thresher maws, I really hope the ME2 ones prove to be more challenging. Okay, here's the trick. At low levels stay in the mako until they're about an inch away from being dead, then jump out and hit it with everything you have while being on foot. That way you get max experience.



How to get to that point? Well here's the trade secret I found out. Thresher maws only pop out at certain locations in the pit area. The entire area is not a thresher maw spawn but only preselected areas are.



BTW, unless you have a death wish or don't really care how it turns out - don't drive around the pit like a madman. It's harder for accuracy and yes you do run the risk of running into one of these many spawn points - one hit = instant melee kill.



This is what you do, before going into the pit pick out a dune and drive to it. Once you get there a maw should show up and then it comes down to you basically doing a "backing down the driveway and then pulling back up." Only this time you're going up a dune and firing both the 105mm main gun and 50 cal machine gun at the maw.



The reason you're moving back and forth up the dune is to both keep the thresher maw reappearing after it dives back under the ground and to also avoid its acid spit which will turn your mako quickly into a scrap of melted steel.



Now this is where the part about thresher maws only being able to spawn at certain points becomes important. As you're pulling up the dune and then backing down it there's a chance that the thing could spawn right underneath the mako - an instant melee kill! Except that that won't happen. After a couple of passes you'll see that the thresher maw alternates between one or two spawn points around the dune and as long as you stick to your "driveway" you'll be fine.



Keeping driving (avoid the acid spit) and keep firing until it's low in health. Once it's close to dying hop out and finish it off to get 3 times extra experience.



And that's it, that's the secret to dealing with thresher maws. It'll take a bit of time to get it down but once you do, they're no problem at all.

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Oh yes that is nice reference Dethateer, thanks

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Beside the fixed spawn points, that's all been said, and the XP penalty for Mako kills is 50% on anything below Insanity, 40% on that.

Though I find the fixed spawn point thing to be extremely interesting... you absolutely sure they are fixed?

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Micon2 wrote...

Actually I am getting quite pissed off with these super uber monstrosities that virtually impossible for anyone to beat and play close to fair. It is goddam ludicrous .
Running round and round in fknn circles trying to take potshots at at weaving target who only has to hit you once,
No wonder people cheat, no I am sorry but if every encounter on every planet has an over the top kill factor you can shove it.,
I am going to have to edit some thing to lower this difficulty cause I am on the easiest setting. I really regret buying pinnacle stn, I am mad as a meat axe with this at the moment I would like to say things that a renegade would truly . I gotta go. Never has a game riled me so muchImage IPBImage IPBImage IPBImage IPB


Sounds like you need Mako strats.

ALWAYS keep moving.
pressing the Left Shift on your Keyboard can make the Mako's cannons zoom in.
FIRE your missiles and while they recharge, KEEP SHOOTING.
You can move in one direction while looking at another direction with the cannon.  This is good for if you are driving away and the Thresher Maw is behind you.  Just make sure you dont run into something.
DONT FORGET; Spacebar activates your mini-boosters, which can help to dodge sometimes.
If things get too rough and tumble, you can ALWAYS drive away and repair the Mako.
Look for videos online on how people take out the Thresher Maws (sandworm thing) and see if you can pick some stuff up from them.

Hope I helped. 

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You could also use stasis, and unleash your 50.cal lead fury on the monster :D

Modifié par -D-C-D-, 24 janvier 2010 - 05:29 .


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Stasis also happens to prevent damage to the target, unless you are a Bastion.

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Yup, they're fixed. Stick to one dune and you'll see the maw alternating between certain spots (a fight that goes for five minutes you'll see them only spawn at two or three different points total).



The best ability to use against maws is warp, but that's really only applicable if you do the entire fight on foot which - at higher levels and on isanity - is actually faster than killing it with the mako.

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merikano

that is really intense, at the moment I am not game to replay this scene cause I played for 4hours today in the Citadel doing 90% of tasks and did save my game , then took off for Vermir and changed my mind after the Mako dropped. I decided to download Pinnacle station and did. Then when I went and loaded my save before the autosave on Vermir, ALL or most of the quests I had trekked about for were not done, i had to do them all oaver again so when i landed here with the thresher maul that must have been inspired by Dune, I wasn't i the mood for such intense and difficult combat. And I totally lost it.


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Dethateer wrote...

Stasis also happens to prevent damage to the target, unless you are a Bastion.


My fault haha, I totally forgot...as you can no doubt guess, my Shep is indeed the above...

More evidence that I will indeed put forward for Team:Bastion FTW :D

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the only thing that can't really be done on insanity are some of the pinnacle station missions - or not without spending a long amount of time on them



i just defeated the therum krogan BM with a level 14 adept on insanity, i'll post a walkthrough album if anybody's interested

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I don't know if you guys noticed but all thresher maws nests are round. If you bolt through the middle of the nest and trigger the thresher maw and then sit just out side the nest the maw won't submerge back into the ground it will stay up just on the edge of the nest. Makes it real easy to kill on foot or in the Mako. Get to far away from the edge and it will submerge again.

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Yeah, Thresher Maws are pretty easy to deal with. I usually just drive straight into the nest and keep moving until it pops up. When I'm a moderate distance away from it, I stop, fire at it and then wait to see how it responds. If it spits acid, I just slightly move the Mako forward or backwards, stop, and then fire again. Rinse and repeat.



If it goes back underground, that's when I start moving again until it pops up.

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Err... I might be a little crazy but I just jump its acid splashes, sit in one spot and never get killed or rarely ever even get hit, stay at range(not too far or it will submerge) and peg away at it. Have to admit I never attempted to kill one on foot(have to try that next play-thru). The only time I've ever died doing this was from not paying attention, not noticing that the Mako was slowly rolling closer with each jump and getting close enough to get the Maw Smash of Doom.

-Grim

Edit: I have also died a couple of times from having the Maw rise directly under the Mako when first encountered, usually when I entered it's spawn point from a different direction than I think was expected(for instance bypassing the one on Edolus to hunt down minerals, before coming back to it).

Modifié par Grimmoir31, 24 janvier 2010 - 06:44 .