DAI "War Assets"?
#1
Posté 22 octobre 2014 - 12:53
http://img1.wikia.no.../War_assets.jpg
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#2
Posté 22 octobre 2014 - 12:56
You've got power. Which you spend
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#3
Posté 22 octobre 2014 - 12:57
Whilst they've not shown anything resembling the breakdown of our 'Inquisition's Power', we can see the total power the Inquisition has on some screens that I have seen including the War Table part if I remember correctly.
#5
Posté 22 octobre 2014 - 01:17
But unlike War Assets, Power will actually have a meaningful impact on "your" game, in more important ways than just being the benchmark on which crappy ending you will have to endure.
Is that confirmed? I can only remember hearing you need certain levels of power to move on the main story, which is hardly meaningful impact, but if you have sources it'd be awesome to see as that sounds great ![]()
#6
Posté 22 octobre 2014 - 01:29
Is that confirmed? I can only remember hearing you need certain levels of power to move on the main story, which is hardly meaningful impact, but if you have sources it'd be awesome to see as that sounds great
I'm not 100% sure right now but yeah, Power seems to be the resource for unlocking/scouting new areas, although I believe that they didn't clarify if that would be limited to main-story areas only, while the Inquisition Perks are used to increase the effectiveness of your advisors and their personal "forces" (i.e. Military, Spy-network, Diplomatic influence).
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#7
Posté 22 octobre 2014 - 03:36
Is that confirmed? I can only remember hearing you need certain levels of power to move on the main story, which is hardly meaningful impact, but if you have sources it'd be awesome to see as that sounds great
So far what we've seen is that its an in-game counter to let you know when you're going to be able to trigger another main story mission. Sort of like ME2 only TIM isn't spamming your VM every few planets.
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#8
Posté 22 octobre 2014 - 03:42
So far what we've seen is that its an in-game counter to let you know when you're going to be able to trigger another main story mission. Sort of like ME2 only TIM isn't spamming your VM every few planets.
No. It's also used to unlock perks, and unlock new optional side areas like the fallow mire.
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#9
Posté 22 octobre 2014 - 04:20
You also spend it on Missions for the advisors I think
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#10
Posté 22 octobre 2014 - 06:05
You also spend it on Missions for the advisors I think
No. It's also used to unlock perks, and unlock new optional side areas like the fallow mire.
According to one video (), Power is spent largely on the War Table missions (where you choose Leliana/Cullen/Josephine to dispatch agents), as Kantr said. Some of those missions will unlock new areas upon completion (some of which in turn are related to the main plot, others of which are possibly side areas), as Burricho noted.
However, in that same video, starting at about the 13:00 minute mark, there are clearly two different counters: one for Power, and one for Inquisition Perks. This implies (to me, at least) that Perks are earned separately from Power. Otherwise, we could potentially sacrifice optional areas in order to unlock more Perks. (I mean, instead of spending Power on the War Table missions that opened new areas, we could use it to "buy" Perk points instead.) I can't say for sure that that won't be the case, but I doubt they'd let us do that, since it would mean that we could get potentially all of the Perks, when I thought the devs really wanted to make us choose a limited number of them. (Just like you can't normally get every single ability in every skill tree, since you have a limited number of points to spend.) From 20:50-22:10 in the video linked above, you can see that (again, just like a skill tree) certain Perks require a minimum number of points to be invested in that category before they can be selected, but they're all bought with Perk points rather than Power.
Is there any further info on how one acquires Perk points, if not through Power? (Apologies if that's too OT.)
#11
Posté 22 octobre 2014 - 06:11
You have influence, which levels up the Inquisition as an organization. And you have power, which is a currency you spend to do things.
The more influence and power you have, the more things you will be able to unlock.
Since power is limited, you must choose where to spend it.
The most similar concept to War Assets, I would say its Influence. A reflection of how strong your organization is.
#12
Posté 22 octobre 2014 - 06:18
I think the power you gain will serve a greater purpose than a static number/percentage of a green bar like in ME3. You use it for missions, to unlock certain things, to purchase Inquisition perks and so on. The other posts have detailed it much further than I could. Since power is limited, it's going to add to replay value, being able to approach things differently, especially if it's for unlocking areas. I think it's going to be pretty neat and overall more substantial than what was in ME3. Should be cool. ![]()
#13
Posté 22 octobre 2014 - 06:23
Power will be resource to unlock new wars on the War table.
perk points go into unlocking perks but there is a limited amount of perks the Inquisitor will have so spend them wisely.
You obtain power by completing minor tasks, closing rift portals (from videos shown players gain 1 power point for each Rift portal closed), complete side-quests, complete main story, craft items to support the Inquisition, and any other productive stuff.
#14
Posté 22 octobre 2014 - 06:29
Since power is limited, it's going to add to replay value, being able to approach things differently, especially if it's for unlocking areas.
This was my impression, too. War Assets were acquired (or lost) depending on your choices, but they weren't meant to be spent. Think of Power like disposable cash, with the War Table as your candy store: you get paid for doing various tasks, and then you spend it at the WT.
I'm curious, though: if Power can be gained by closing Rifts (which seem to spawn randomly) or by crafting items, is there still a limit on it? If you're terribly patient, could you go around trying to find new Rifts and crafting new gear in order to rack up more Power and eventually unlock everything?
#15
Posté 22 octobre 2014 - 06:32
#16
Posté 22 octobre 2014 - 06:32
According to one video (), Power is spent largely on the War Table missions (where you choose Leliana/Cullen/Josephine to dispatch agents), as Kantr said. Some of those missions will unlock new areas upon completion (some of which in turn are related to the main plot, others of which are possibly side areas), as Burricho noted.
However, in that same video, starting at about the 13:00 minute mark, there are clearly two different counters: one for Power, and one for Inquisition Perks. This implies (to me, at least) that Perks are earned separately from Power. Otherwise, we could potentially sacrifice optional areas in order to unlock more Perks. (I mean, instead of spending Power on the War Table missions that opened new areas, we could use it to "buy" Perk points instead.) I can't say for sure that that won't be the case, but I doubt they'd let us do that, since it would mean that we could get potentially all of the Perks, when I thought the devs really wanted to make us choose a limited number of them. (Just like you can't normally get every single ability in every skill tree, since you have a limited number of points to spend.) From 20:50-22:10 in the video linked above, you can see that (again, just like a skill tree) certain Perks require a minimum number of points to be invested in that category before they can be selected, but they're all bought with Perk points rather than Power.
Is there any further info on how one acquires Perk points, if not through Power? (Apologies if that's too OT.)
Incorrect. The perks 'counter' at the bottom merely shows how many perks you have unlocked, there is no such thing as perk points. It's likely that if you don't unlock these optional areas you will not be able to gain enough power to buy them all.
#17
Posté 22 octobre 2014 - 06:43
Incorrect. The perks 'counter' at the bottom merely shows how many perks you have unlocked, there is no such thing as perk points. It's likely that if you don't unlock these optional areas you will not be able to gain enough power to buy them all.
Perks are unlocked by Influence, which is a separate resource from Power. The only time they've shown a character earning influence was in the latest twitch stream where they were showcasing Skyhold; Cameron Lee earned Influence for the character he was using by crafting a sword.
#18
Posté 22 octobre 2014 - 06:46
no that's what got us a terrible game in ME3 to begin with since it never gave us a choice that mattered in the end. I have better trust in the DA team to make our choices matter.Is there something like ME3's War Assets that shows the Inquisition's forces?
http://img1.wikia.no.../War_assets.jpg
#19
Posté 22 octobre 2014 - 06:46
Yes but you have to play mp to get that last point to put you at 10,000 you can only get to 99,999 points in single player. If you get to 10,000 you get an extra 1 hour cutscene showing you and the rest of your gang having a wild orgy of excessive booze and sex.
#20
Posté 22 octobre 2014 - 06:47
There isn't much similarity between Power and War Assets as far as we know. One is currency the other is progress towards certain endings.
#21
Posté 22 octobre 2014 - 06:49
Yes but you have to play mp to get that last point to put you at 10,000 you can only get to 99,999 points in single player. If you get to 10,000 you get an extra 1 hour cutscene showing you and the rest of your gang having a wild orgy of excessive booze and sex.
So playing Multiplayer causes you to lose 89,999 points does it? *whispers* think you missed a 0 there ![]()
Anyway you are wrong as they've already confirmed MP does not affect SP in any form ![]()
#22
Posté 22 octobre 2014 - 07:16
Perks are unlocked by Influence, which is a separate resource from Power. The only time they've shown a character earning influence was in the latest twitch stream where they were showcasing Skyhold; Cameron Lee earned Influence for the character he was using by crafting a sword.
Thanks for the clarification! I didn't think Power was spent on Perks, but I had forgotten what was used instead.
Do we know if Influence is a consumable resource like Power, or is it like ME's Reputation point system, where further options are unlocked when you reach certain levels?
#23
Posté 22 octobre 2014 - 07:19
So playing Multiplayer causes you to lose 89,999 points does it? *whispers* think you missed a 0 there
Anyway you are wrong as they've already confirmed MP does not affect SP in any form
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#24
Posté 22 octobre 2014 - 07:32
I think it was at least partially inspired by ME3's War Asset system.
#25
Posté 22 octobre 2014 - 07:41
War Assets... their relevance to the War still bowl me over.





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