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[Revan Reborn]

Was a big fan of Trevor Morris before DA:I tbh with his work in The Borgias and The Pillars of Earth (both great tv series i'd recommend if u no seen them), so that coupled with the fact i thought DA music wasnt particularly memorable i was to say the least rather happy when he was announced

I'm actually really surprised a lot of folks here did not like DAO's soundtrack. Besides the amazing story and characters, it's really the only fond memory I have of origins, as the combat, art direction, and basically everything else were beyond terrible. DA2 tried to fix all of the issues DAO was plagued with and had some success? The combat was still terrible, but at least more responsible. Music wasn't as great, but that was partially due to the game being rushed.

[Snook]

I, for one, actually liked DA:O's soundtrack for the most part. The tracks done by Aubrey Ashburne like Leliana's Song, I Am the One, etc. were all really pretty, and there were some good atmospheric tunes such as this and the Party Camp theme. There were an abundance of rather forgettable tracks, but had it's fair share of gems.

 

I just like what Trevor Morris is doing more. 

 

Do want to hear more of this kinda track though. It's the most traditionally Dragon Age-ey thing we've heard in Inquisition so far, which there should be some of. 

[Revan Reborn]

I, for one, actually liked DA:O's soundtrack for the most part. The tracks done by Aubrey Ashburne like Leliana's Song, I Am the One, etc. were all really pretty, and there were some good atmospheric tunes such as this and the Party Camp theme. There were an abundance of rather forgettable tracks, but had it's fair share of gems.

 

I just like what Trevor Morris is doing. 

 

Do want to hear more of this kinda track though. It's the most traditionally Dragon Age-ey thing we've heard in Inquisition so far, which there should be some of. 

Nice selections. Calenhad Docks is a classic. A really unsettling piece. That dark, unusual, and uncertain tone really brings out that Dragon Age-y feel to me. The last one you linked from Inquisition was okay, but felt like it lacked motivation and direction.

[MrDbow]

How can I possibly choose between the two composers when one of their soundtracks has not been heard in it's entirety?

I like both DA:O and DA2 soundtracks. So far, I've enjoyed the 2 or so tracks that have been heard. Impossible to answer your question.

[Revan Reborn]

How can I possibly choose between the two composers when one of their soundtracks has not been heard in it's entirety?

I like both DA:O and DA2 soundtracks. So far, I've enjoyed the 2 or so tracks that have been heard. Impossible to answer your question.

You have an idea of what DAI's soundtrack is likely going to follow based on its main theme. You can certainly revisit this thread though post-release. Personally, I would have preferred something that stayed true to its predecessors, but DAI is clearly starkly different from previous Dragon Age scores.

[Almostfaceman]

You have an idea of what DAI's soundtrack is likely going to follow based on its main theme. You can certainly revisit this thread though post-release. Personally, I would have preferred something that stayed true to its predecessors, but DAI is clearly starkly different from previous Dragon Age scores.

 

I don't know, the main theme for Inquistion does remind me, emotionally, of the music of the previous two games. The essential melancholy is there, for my taste.

[Snook]

The last one you linked from Inquisition was okay, but felt like it lacked motivation and direction.

 

I dunno, I liked it. Was fitting for an astronomy section.

 

It also sounds pretty much like a slowed-down, drawn out version of 'I Am the One' from DA:O, so that bit of nostalgia factor is there for me.

[GodBrandon]

I have Leliana's Song on my phone lmao, but this Trevor Morris dude has some nice music too. The main theme is so hype

[Revan Reborn]

I dunno, I liked it. Was fitting for an astronomy section.

 

It also sounds pretty much like a slowed-down, drawn out version of 'I Am the One' from DA:O, so that bit of nostalgia factor is there for me.

It's certainly nice to have variety. I'm hoping that there will be quite a bit of diversity in the new soundtrack to what we've already heard. Fast-paced, over-the-top, battle-raging fantasy music just doesn't really fit Dragon Age for me. I suppose I'll have to get used to it though.

[Revan Reborn]

I don't know, the main theme for Inquistion does remind me, emotionally, of the music of the previous two games. The essential melancholy is there, for my taste.

I have to disagree as the DAI theme just seems epic/over-the-top as if the score came straight from Hans Zimmer. Love his work, but honestly, his soundtracks really all start to sound the same after a while. Just try differentiating between The Dark Knight Trilogy, Inception, and Man of Steel.

 

DAO, in contrast, is much darker, intimate, uncertain, and even innocent. It brings a really unusual, yet satisfying sound to life that isn't typical "hero saves middle earth" fantasy tunes. There's definitely a difference in style, and I just appreciate the more alien and unconventional approach Inon uses, rather than what Trevor has brought to the table.

 

I have Leliana's Song on my phone lmao, but this Trevor Morris dude has some nice music too. The main theme is so hype

I think "so hype" might be my issue. That doesn't really fit Dragon Age, in my opinion. Dragon Age has always been about mystery, discovery, tragedy, and hope. I just feel Inon Zur is much better at mixing and combining emotions to really tell a story, rather than just making a typical Hollywood, blood-pumping, adrenaline rush score.

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Feel free to link that one piece, but you are still missing the point. The main theme sets the tone for the entire soundtrack. If there is ever continuity when dealing with franchises, you are most likely going to hear it in the main theme and reverberated throughout the rest of the soundtrack in subtle tones. Listen to the main theme in DAO and DA2. There are a lot of similarities between the two at certain points, even though their tone is very much different. There is zero connection between DAO/DA2 and DAI. There certainly isn't anything to be found in the main theme, and I haven't heard anything remotely similar in any of the other tracks BioWare has used.

There are many franchises whose most defining pieces of music are not the theme.

The theme from DAO and the theme from DA2 are so different that most people who haven't played the games would even know they are from the same franchise. 

[Almostfaceman]

I have to disagree as the DAI theme just seems epic/over-the-top as if the score came straight from Hans Zimmer. 

 

If you listen to the first 40 or so seconds, there it captures the sadness and epic struggle of Thedas. Reminds me a bit of Pippin's tune in Return of the King. Take a listen if you feel like it and see if you agree with me. 

 

I'm not a huge Zimmer fan, his stuff is very derivative. I've never forgiven him for the battle piece near the beginning sounding so much like Holst's Mars, God of War.

 

Zimmer, start at about 1:39

 

 

Holst...

 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

If you listen to the first 40 or so seconds, there it captures the sadness and epic struggle of Thedas. Reminds me a bit of Pippin's tune in Return of the King. Take a listen if you feel like it and see if you agree with me. 

 

I'm not a huge Zimmer fan, his stuff is very derivative. I've never forgiven him for the battle piece near the beginning sounding so much like Holst's Mars, God of War.

 

Zimmer, start at about 1:39

 

 

Holst...

 

Considering that scene in Gladiator has Roman Empire fighting a battle, and Mars is both the God of War as well as their patron god, I think the similarities were intentional. 

[Revan Reborn]

There are many franchises whose most defining pieces of music are not the theme.

The theme from DAO and the theme from DA2 are so different that most people who haven't played the games would even know they are from the same franchise. 

The beginnings of each are certainly vastly different. If you listen to the entirety of each though, you'll notice the similarities, which is especially obvious near the end of DA2's theme. I don't believe you'd need to be a fan of Dragon Age to hear that "dun... dun dun dun..." that always cues when the Dark Spawn come into the picture. But again, they are still quiet and slower in nature, even if one is a bit more mystical while the other is subdued. DAI's theme is just blood-bumping, adrenaline rush.

 

If you listen to the first 40 or so seconds, there it captures the sadness and epic struggle of Thedas. Reminds me a bit of Pippin's tune in Return of the King. Take a listen if you feel like it and see if you agree with me. 

 

I'm not a huge Zimmer fan, his stuff is very derivative. I've never forgiven him for the battle piece near the beginning sounding so much like Holst's Mars, God of War.

 

Zimmer, start at about 1:39

 

 

Holst...

 

Wow. I can't believe I never noticed that before! I love The Dark Knight soundtrack, but shame on Hans for ripping off The Planets! Even given the source material relates to Ancient Roman Mythology, he could have put in more effort than that.

[Almostfaceman]

Considering that scene in Gladiator has Roman Empire fighting a battle, and Mars is both the God of War as well as their patron god, I think the similarities were intentional. 

 

To each their own, I just considered this lazy on Zimmer's part and that most of his paycheck should have been mailed to Holst's grave. 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

The beginnings of each are certainly vastly different. If you listen to the entirety of each though, you'll notice the similarities, which is especially obvious near the end of DA2's theme. I don't believe you'd need to be a fan of Dragon Age to hear that "dun... dun dun dun..." that always cues when the Dark Spawn come into the picture. But again, they are still quiet and slower in nature, even if one is a bit more mystical while the other is subdued. DAI's theme is just blood-bumping, adrenaline rush.

I just finished listening to both back to back, and they are not as similar as you are proclaiming. And what makes them similar also makes them similar to several other franchises, which you are complaining the DAI soundtrack does. 

 

 

To each their own, I just considered this lazy on Zimmer's part and that most of his paycheck should have been mailed to Holst's grave.  

I actually thought him paying homage to it, especially if for the reasons I theorize, was a  pretty neat nod to their mythology. 

 

And as a classical music lover, I can assure you he is not alone in this. Both Trevor Morris and Inon Zur have music that sounds awfully close to classical pieces. Whether intentional or just because there are only so many combinations of notes one can make I can't say. 

[Revan Reborn]

 

I just finished listening to both back to back, and they are not as similar as you are proclaiming. And what makes them similar also makes them similar to several other franchises, which you are complaining the DAI soundtrack does. 

 

 

I actually thought him paying homage to it, especially if for the reasons I theorize, was a  pretty neat nod to their mythology. 

 

And as a classical music lover, I can assure you he is not alone in this. Both Trevor Morris and Inon Zur have music that sounds awfully close to classical pieces. Whether intentional or just because there are only so many combinations of notes one can make I can't say. 

 

Huh? Let me time stamp for you. It's really noticeable when you hear that traditional Dragon Age tune:

 

Approximately 1:00 for DAO

 

 

Approximately 1:43 for DA2

 

 

That's just the most overt and obvious similarities between the two. The female vocals are similar as well as the underlying melody also is very close to DAO, with varying degrees of modification. Inon Zur really just modified the original piece and put a Hawke spin on it. I don't see how those tie into other fantasy scores at all. DAI doesn't share any of the similarities I just mentioned and really is just another typical fast-paced fantasy soundtrack.

[In Exile]

DAO, in contrast, is much darker, intimate, uncertain, and even innocent. It brings a really unusual, yet satisfying sound to life that isn't typical "hero saves middle earth" fantasy tunes. There's definitely a difference in style, and I just appreciate the more alien and unconventional approach Inon uses, rather than what Trevor has brought to the table.

 

Even if we agreed that this is what the DA:O track was like, which I definetly don't see at all, it would still be totally missing the point of the game, which is the most standard form of "hero saves middle earth" possible. In fact, DA:O is even more "hero saves middle earth" than just about anything in LOTR. The only even marginal sources of darkness in the game (aside from the origins) are available only and completely at the behest of the player, and otherwise it's an almost unending stream of incredible victory and curbstomping of enemies. 

[Hanako Ikezawa]

Huh? Let me time stamp for you. It's really noticeable when you hear that traditional Dragon Age tune:

 

Approximately 1:00 for DAO

 

 

Approximately 1:43 for DA2

 

 

That's just the most overt and obvious similarities between the two. The female vocals are similar as well as the underlying melody also is very close to DAO, with varying degrees of modification. Inon Zur really just modified the original piece and put a Hawke spin on it.

I don't need you to time stamp something I just finished listening to for the sole purpose of seeing how similar they are. 

It doesn't disprove what I said in the slightest. I said there were a few similarities, but that they share similarities with several other franchises which you are complaining the DAI soundtrack does. 

[sumojellybean]

Super huge fan of Trevor Morris ever since I watched Pillars of the Earth years before DA:I was even announced. If Inquisition turns out to be a flop, at least the music is still a dream come true.

 

EDIT: Inon Zur's stuff was pretty good though in DA:O. I don't whether it be the short development time, but his music sounded stale though after Awakening. :/

[Revan Reborn]

Even if we agreed that this is what the DA:O track was like, which I definetly don't see at all, it would still be totally missing the point of the game, which is the most standard form of "hero saves middle earth" possible. In fact, DA:O is even more "hero saves middle earth" than just about anything in LOTR. The only even marginal sources of darkness in the game (aside from the origins) are available only and completely at the behest of the player, and otherwise it's an almost unending stream of incredible victory and curbstomping of enemies. 

While the basic premise could be argued to be that simplistic, DAO was far from just being "hero saves middle earth." There were moral dilemmas between the mages and the templars. There was multifaceted characters, such as Loghain, who was far from the stereotypical villain and was actually trying to save Ferelden. Then we have the darker undertones with the Fade, demons, the various sins they are named after and more dilemmas they put us through: Should we let the templar be consumed by the desire demon if he feels he is happy? Or end his and the desire demon's life in suffering?

 

We also had the excessive use of blood, the various prisons and torture devices, the alienage where discrimination and hatred had run rampant against the elves and the dwarves. Lets not forget the various assassin organizations and brothels showing another fold to the experience.There is so much complexity in Dragon Age that a typical Lord of the Rings soundtrack would not have done it justice. That is why Inon Zur's score worked so beautifully because it incorporated all the intricacies that are actually Dragon Age. Trevor Morris' approach just seems out of touch and out of place.

 

That is unless the storytelling and plot of DAI are just vastly inferior to DAO and even DA2...

[Durhon]

Where are you guys getting the soundtrack to DA:I?

[Revan Reborn]

I don't need you to time stamp something I just finished listening to for the sole purpose of seeing how similar they are. 

It doesn't disprove what I said in the slightest. I said there were a few similarities, but that they share similarities with several other franchises which you are complaining the DAI soundtrack does. 

Feel free to link those other franchises. The particular moment I specified was part of the main chorus of DAO and was a recurring theme throughout both games. It is purely synonymous to Dragon Age as Inon Zur created it for that purpose.

[Evamitchelle]

Where are you guys getting the soundtrack to DA:I?

 

Here.