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[TheClonesLegacy]

Honestly I don't care either way. I just stated the easiest way to go about adding Spider-Man in.

Take it or leave it.

 

In the meantime I'll go back to that Carol Danvers hype!

[Greenface21]

The extra footage at the end of SHIELD was pretty entertaining.  Captain America should really be able to move that hammer more then that.

 

 

Finally HD*

[TheClonesLegacy]

If you don't care, then you probably shouldn't be here, Don't you think?

How tired are you exactly?

My point was whether you want to completely reboot Spider-man into the MCU, or integrate the current films in with a few retcons is irrelevant, and is ultimately up to Marvel. I gave my two cents. So you giving some ultimate explanation is something I just can't find it within myself to care about, especially given how arrogantly you said it.

REGARDLESS of who's right. I'll explain this whole Spider-Man issue tomorrow.

Both my idea and Jimmy's hold weight.
But you acting like you got it all figured out is what annoys me.

If my tone was off Jimmy, and it made it seem like I was being a dick for no reason or I wasn't clear with what I meant. I apologize. Anyway,

The extra footage at the end of SHIELD was pretty entertaining. Captain America should really be able to move that hammer more then that.

Spoiler

I love it

[N0rke]

Eh. Even if they did get the ink signed today on an agreement to put Spidey in the MCU, there's no way they could introduce him and have him ingrained as an established character before 2016. He would have to be introduced as a side character in another movie still in production... maybe Ant Man? But Spider Man and Ant Man in the same movie... that would be confusing to the (many) people who don't know Ant Man and think Spidey was the star attraction.

 

Unless they fast track a MCU Spiderman movie at an insanely accelerated rate, Civil War will be Spidey-less.

 

I really don't think Spider-Man would need his own movie right off the bat to be introduced into Civil War. Like you said in a later post, people know who he is. I can't imagine there are many people out there who don't know about Spider-Man, what his motivations are, and why he does what he does. I think if the gap between Avengers: AoU and Civil War was long enough it'd be relatively easy to introduce a MCU Spider-Man into the equation and have it be believable.

 

Obviously contracts, casting, and time restraints are another issue entirely, but from a purely story perspective I don't think it's impossible.

 

Just bring in Andrew Garfield.

Nothing in either series confirms or denies each other existing.

Just have Amazing Spider-Man 1 and 2 happen after Winter Soldier.

 

As much as I wouldn't mind Garfield playing Spidey in the MCU, I'd find it kind of weird if they just pushed TASM 1&2 into MCU canon. Outside out of all the story inconsistencies with the whole New York thing, the mood of those two universes feel entirely different (At least to me). The Sony Spider-Man movies feel like they're stuck in a pre-Iron Man (The movie itself, not the hero) world where they're afraid to embrace comics fully and instead try to make everything gritty and realistic. Marvel has pushed beyond that and have created a universe that isn't afraid to embrace the silliness of comics yet still remains believable.

[TheClonesLegacy]

As much as I wouldn't mind Garfield playing Spidey in the MCU, I'd find it kind of weird if they just pushed TASM 1&2 into MCU canon. Outside out of all the story inconsistencies with the whole New York thing, the mood of those two universes feel entirely different (At least to me). The Sony Spider-Man movies feel like they're stuck in a pre-Iron Man (The movie itself, not the hero) world where they're afraid to embrace comics fully and instead try to make everything gritty and realistic. Marvel has pushed beyond that and have created a universe that isn't afraid to embrace the silliness of comics yet still remains believable.

This was actually a point I was hoping someone'd bring up.

Since I completely agree with you. But also remember, the MCU films do have largely inconsistent tones with each other too.

The same year we got Captain America Winter Soldier, a pretty serious film about brainwashing, conspiracies, and such. We also got Guardians of the Galaxy, which was far more lighthearted.

Same can be said for Iron Man 1 and Incredible Hulk,

Thor and Cap 1.

And finally Iron Man 3 and Thor The Dark World..

Overall I think Garfield would mesh in pretty well into the MCU, since, well I can see some influence from those (MCU) films in Amazing 1 and 2.

 

But as much as I'd like Spider-Man in there. I think Amazing 2 has shown we're all burnt out on the character. Even if we wouldn't like to admit it. In all honesty I say we give Spidey a few years before he shows up again. Batman took a break after Batman and Robin, and look at the results of that.

[Fast Jimmy]

This was actually a point I was hoping someone'd bring up.
Since I completely agree with you. But also remember, the MCU films do have largely inconsistent tones with each other too.
The same year we got Captain America Winter Soldier, a pretty serious film about brainwashing, conspiracies, and such. We also got Guardians of the Galaxy, which was far more lighthearted.
Same can be said for Iron Man 1 and Incredible Hulk,
Thor and Cap 1.
And finally Iron Man 3 and Thor The Dark World..
Overall I think Garfield would mesh in pretty well into the MCU, since, well I can see some influence from those (MCU) films in Amazing 1 and 2.

But as much as I'd like Spider-Man in there. I think Amazing 2 has shown we're all burnt out on the character. Even if we wouldn't like to admit it. In all honesty I say we give Spidey a few years before he shows up again. Batman took a break after Batman and Robin, and look at the results of that.

Rapping Daniel Radcliffe. Your argument is invalid.

[TheClonesLegacy]

...You're right. I yield. I can't argue Harry Potters sick flow dawg.

[mybudgee]

Says to refrain from personal insults--
Proceeds to insult in a personal manner
Sounds Legit

[TheClonesLegacy]

You ignore it so much you just had to let Budgee know huh?
Fascinating.

You ever see New Nightmare? That's kinda how I feel about the notion of more solo Spider-Man movies. They continue to be released to keep a Spider demon from eating people.

Also I'd argue that Wolverine is a more "Vaster" character than Spider-man. Both in and out of universe. Because editorial mandates don't force Logan into the loser mold Spidey got forced back into in OMD.

[Milan92]

 

The hype is over 9000!

[breakdown71289]

[mybudgee]

Well, With that comment from Budgee, That's the least he can get from me. So, He probably should be thankful.

 

 

???

[TheClonesLegacy]

I don't know either Budgee.

We should break his High Horses leg so he has to put it down.

 

Anyway,

http://starkked.tumb...arvel-day-event

Scene from AoU.

They are chopping wood.

[breakdown71289]

C'mon guys, let's keep things Civil. Save the actual War for the big screen. 

[mybudgee]

Lol

[N0rke]

This was actually a point I was hoping someone'd bring up.

Since I completely agree with you. But also remember, the MCU films do have largely inconsistent tones with each other too.

The same year we got Captain America Winter Soldier, a pretty serious film about brainwashing, conspiracies, and such. We also got Guardians of the Galaxy, which was far more lighthearted.

Same can be said for Iron Man 1 and Incredible Hulk,

Thor and Cap 1.

And finally Iron Man 3 and Thor The Dark World..

Overall I think Garfield would mesh in pretty well into the MCU, since, well I can see some influence from those (MCU) films in Amazing 1 and 2.

 

But as much as I'd like Spider-Man in there. I think Amazing 2 has shown we're all burnt out on the character. Even if we wouldn't like to admit it. In all honesty I say we give Spidey a few years before he shows up again. Batman took a break after Batman and Robin, and look at the results of that.

 

You make a good point. Though I do think there are several moments in each of those films that really help tie them together into the same universe as far as tone. Even Cap 2, despite being one of the most grounded MCU films to date, had some moments where I was like 'Ok, that's some comic book level stuff right there.' TASM on the other hand feels like it's trying to imitate comics, but always trying to stay safe about it. I'm sure Marvel could find a way to put them together properly, as it seems they can do no wrong these days, but I just can't think of a believable way to do it.

 

I'm not so sure people are burnt out on the character so much as they're burnt out on Sony's interpretation of the character. I think people would love to see a well written Spider-Man within the MCU.

[Dermain]

This was actually a point I was hoping someone'd bring up.

Since I completely agree with you. But also remember, the MCU films do have largely inconsistent tones with each other too.

The same year we got Captain America Winter Soldier, a pretty serious film about brainwashing, conspiracies, and such. We also got Guardians of the Galaxy, which was far more lighthearted.

Same can be said for Iron Man 1 and Incredible Hulk,

Thor and Cap 1.

And finally Iron Man 3 and Thor The Dark World..

Overall I think Garfield would mesh in pretty well into the MCU, since, well I can see some influence from those (MCU) films in Amazing 1 and 2.

 

But as much as I'd like Spider-Man in there. I think Amazing 2 has shown we're all burnt out on the character. Even if we wouldn't like to admit it. In all honesty I say we give Spidey a few years before he shows up again. Batman took a break after Batman and Robin, and look at the results of that.

 

Yes, Scarecrow was changed from being an interesting villain to being "Oh, hi there! I'm not really relevant to the story anymore, but I'm still here!". 

[TheClonesLegacy]

Yes, Scarecrow was changed from being an interesting villain to being "Oh, hi there! I'm not really relevant to the story anymore, but I'm still here!". 

CAMEO!

[Dermain]

CAMEO!

 

Stop rubbing it in! 

 

Cillian Murphy gave him so much potential...despite missing his entire motivation...as well as making him less intimidating...WHY NOLAN WHY?!

 

I've never been a fan of Marvel, but I may see this movie simply because James Spader is voicing Ultron. He just has a thing for playing villain characters.