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[mybudgee]

@Galactic: I got you a cake... sorry it's late (I got caught in a temporal paradox)

[Abraham_uk]

 

 

What do you make of this video?

[TheClonesLegacy]

Merit to his arguments, but I disagree. Given Guardians of the Galaxys it shows obscure characters can work. No one cares about that spousal abuser Ant Man, but no one gave a crap about the Guardians either.

Also I found his tangent about the new Thor and Falcon as Captain America pointless and didn't add anything to the video except to pad out 2-3 minutes. Especially since Marvel Comics isn't even in Hollywood. It's in New York. So it fails the premise of the video.
So lets ding up two sins for said rant.

[Abraham_uk]

The superhero genre will reach saturation.

However Marvel Studios has so many ideas, so many characters and stories to tell, that they will knock phase three (the final phase) out of the park.

 

I also disagreed with him when he said all of the films feel the same.

Each film had a different tone in my opinion.

 

I'll go into each film.

 

Spoiler

1. Iron Man: Straight forward action adventure with a bright hopeful tone.
    
2. Iron Man 2: More of a character development story with a bit of darkness and some silliness too.
    
3. Thor: Character development with a huge contrast between Azguard realm and Earth. Bringing the fantastic to the mundane.
    
4. The Incredible Hulk: A tense action thriller as a man tries to control the monster within whilst evading the authorities.
    
5. Captain America: Hopeful earnest action adventure invoking World War 2 propaganda, and the tale of one man's struggle to get involved in the war.
    
6. The Avengers: A loud, explosive ensemble piece that places emphasis on team building and team dynamic.
    
7. Thor: The Dark World: A silly fun action flick with some serious moments that explores the relationship between Thor and Loki.
    
8. Iron Man 3: A film that shows how Tony Stark tries to deal with the aftermath of The Avengers and the coming to terms with his identity and the responsibilities of a superhero. This is darker character development story with some humour thrown in for good measure.
    
9. Captain America: The Winter Soldier: An espionage thriller that explores Shield, Black Widow and Captain America's struggle to adjust to present day. Also introduces an idealogical struggle that will come into play later.
    
10. Guardians of The Galaxy: Colourful, funny and very uplifting film with lots of action and a lot of homage to 1980's Science Fiction especially Star Wars. Very, very feel good.

 

To me they don't all look feel the same.

The tone and content of these films are vastly different to each other.

They all have different goals and a different vision.

 

The Age of Ultron will not be like Avengers Assemble and heck will be very different from the other films in the series.

 

Marvel Studios is what is making the superhero explosion exciting.

Lots of different stories, settings and characters brought into one expanded universe.

So far I have loved all the offerings and am excited for more.

[Greenface21]

I had so much respect for CinemaSins before watching that... 

 

The general public will definitely burnout on superhero movies, It's funny how it gets brought up like it's a new revelation. People get tired of everything. I just hope at the end of 2020 I'll have an entire library of awesome big budget comic book movies. 

 

Hollywood original superhero movies range from mediocre to terrible. This is the first time I've heard of anyone actually wanting more Unbreakable or Chronicle. 

 

That bit about Thor and Captain America was disturbing.  I'd understand the argument if Marvel had done a retcon with both characters, but they didn't.  Male Thor and Steve Rogers are still around. 

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

The only Marvel movies I don't like are Hulk ones plus Ironman 3. The other movies are at least 7/10 and recommended to watch by me. I was hyped by Wolverine movies, so I'm still unsure if they're good or not!

[TheRealJayDee]

I do believe that if every studio with superhero properties starts throwing 1-3 such movies out every year sooner or later there will be some kind of fatigue. I'm just not sure if every studio will be affected equally.

 

I don't think Marvel Studios will have to worry soon, they are well established by now and still have a lot of fresh characters and ideas to adapt.

 

DC/WB still need to deliver on the promise of their grand connected movie universe, but there should be a powerful enough combination of novelty and familiarity with the characters for success, provided the first 2-3 movie including BvS aren't completely rejected by the general audience (which I can't imagine).

 

Fox are on their way to making X-Men movies big again, but very little can be said so far about their treatment of the Fantastic Four.

 

Sony only has Spider-Man, and I can see them struggling a lot before too long. TASM2, while not a flop, wasn't the success it should have been, and the reactions towards their plans of a bigger Spidey movie universe aren't exactly that thrilled.

 

We'll see. I'll continue watching the movies I'm interested in, and I suspect so will most people. 

[Abraham_uk]

Which is more difficult?

 

 

A story with multiple heroes and one villain?

Or a story with multiple villains and one hero?

 

 

Marvel Cinematic Universe and X Men are about the former.

Spiderman seems to be about the latter.

[Dermain]

Merit to his arguments, but I disagree. Given Guardians of the Galaxys it shows obscure characters can work. No one cares about that spousal abuser Ant Man, but no one gave a crap about the Guardians either.

Also I found his tangent about the new Thor and Falcon as Captain America pointless and didn't add anything to the video except to pad out 2-3 minutes. Especially since Marvel Comics isn't even in Hollywood. It's in New York. So it fails the premise of the video.
So lets ding up two sins for said rant.

 

Well it is a bit silly.

 

Why do Thor and Captain America have to be revamped in such a way? It will draw controversy certainly, and given the response (Fox or was it Sony?) got when they announced that the fire guy from the Fantastic Four would be black while his sister was white it's probably going to enrage previous fans of said heroes. The questions of course would be, would that happen with a new superhero, and would people embrace that hero? 

 

Also, you get a like for the last comment.

[TheClonesLegacy]

Well it is a bit silly.

 

Why do Thor and Captain America have to be revamped in such a way? It will draw controversy certainly, and given the response (Fox or was it Sony?) got when they announced that the fire guy from the Fantastic Four would be black while his sister was white it's probably going to enrage previous fans of said heroes. The questions of course would be, would that happen with a new superhero, and would people embrace that hero? 

 

Also, you get a like for the last comment.

It's just a marketing ploy.

Both DC and Marvel have been doing it for years (Death of Superman, Knightfall, Superior Spider-Man, Avengers Vs. X-Men, etc), it's a fast and easy way to make click-bait headlines, start up discussion, and have some minorly increased sales.

 

I don't buy into it much. I give Thor and Falcon Cap about a year and a half before everything goes back to normal.

Same with Wolverine and his supposed death.

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

Speaking of Fury.

 

Is there really the actors/actresses of marvel movies in this series? Or just this single scene?

[The Love Runner]

Fury is present in the finale of S1 and this post-credits scene of Episode 2 of season 1. Maria Hill is also present in a couple of episodes. Lady Sif has also appeared in one episode. Captain America and Tony Stark both were mentioned a couple of times, Romanoff was mentioned countless of times for some reason. But that's about it.

Chris Pratt said he is up for appearing in an episode as Peter Quill. Watch Star-Lord requesting to become an executive member of SHIELD, only for Son of Coul to make him a consultant instead.

[Kaiser Arian XVII]

What do you mean by "mention". That means not actual presence? Pfft.

 

*goes watching Flash series*

[The Love Runner]

YES, Galactic! Thank you for reminding me about Chris Pratt's statement. You know, It'd be really cool to have him on Agents of SHIELD. And maybe take Rocket Raccoon with him. Now that, Would be glorious.

SHIELD's secret weapon for taking down HYDRA revealed!

[The Love Runner]

Now, The question to those who have watched Agents of SHIELD. Which member of Coulson's team is your favorite? Mine is obviously Simmons.

I like May...A LOT. Mulan laying the smack down on the dissenters!