This thread is inspired by:Krogan mentality.
So IMO curing Gen.without Wrex and Eve is pointless.
If Wreav is in power and Eve dies cure must be sabotaged.
Or else hello New Krogan Rebellions!!
And this brings us to Mordin.I absolutely didn't want to shoot him but had no choice.
Morals is all good but think ahead will you....
Only the weak and cowardly use diseases. Bow to your head butting overlords and know true glory!
Actually, if Wrex and Eve are dead you can convince Mordin to see reason. You don't HAVE to kill him. Though for this to happen you have to destroy the cure data in ME2 and most importantly kill Wrex on virmire. Really tough choices. I agree though, the genophage shouldn't be cured if Wrex isn't leader. Even with Wrex I have issues with the genophage being cured, really. It isn't so much that its being cured but rather the blanketed "everyone cured on the planet" system for which the cure is spread. The cure should be regulated and given only to those that are able to prove that they're not mindless blood-lusting revenge-hungry beasts. We've met a few Krogan that aren't horrible but it seems like for every one 'good' krogan theres a dozen bad ones.
I would had given the cure as injections to Wrex and have him pass them along to members of his clan or those he feel won't risk making the galaxy regret the krogan. He might decide that everyone should get them regardless of affiliation but at least you tried to regulate it. There's still a lot of violent clans out there that just want to get revenge.
Has anybody ever cured the genophage with Wreav in charge of things? In my games the only reason I ever had Wreav in charge was so that I could sabotage the genophage.
Cure Genophage with Wreav alive... pick Control!
Cure Genophage with Wreav alive... pick Control!
Just in case Wreav gets silly ideas of galactic domination? 
Just in case Wreav gets silly ideas of galactic domination?
If you also happen to be Renegade, in final speech Shepard would imply she's not going to restrict Krogan.
Wiki Quote
- If a Renegade Shepard cured the genophage and Wreav leads the krogan, Shepard intends to ensure that "the strongest are not feared or reviled for their strength."
If you also happen to be Renegade, in final speech Shepard would imply she's not going to restrict Krogan.
Ahh, cool. Thanks for that. Haven't done a renegade control game yet. Been meaning to, but just never seems to work out. When I get to the end after saying goodbye to all my squaddies and all the crap shep has been through, well anymore I just want to shoot the damn tube. However, one could look at that quote you provided as shep making sure no one has reason to fear the strength of the krogan because she will stomp them into the ground if they get outta line.
j/k. I dunno the rest of the speech, so I'm probably taking that line out of context.
Just in case Wreav gets silly ideas of galactic domination?
I think Synthesis still works well either way, but I prefer my Shepard to keep things in line.
PS: If this thread was made 4 months ago, I would have redirected the OP to the second page or the lower bottom of page 1.
I think Synthesis still works well either way, but I prefer my Shepard to keep things in line.
PS: If this thread was made 4 months ago, I would have redirected the OP to the second page or the lower bottom of page 1.
Four months ago, on this forum, is like... well, like the Prothean cycle 
Ahh, cool. Thanks for that. Haven't done a renegade control game yet. Been meaning to, but just never seems to work out. When I get to the end after saying goodbye to all my squaddies and all the crap shep has been through, well anymore I just want to shoot the damn tube. However, one could look at that quote you provided as shep making sure no one has reason to fear the strength of the krogan because she will stomp them into the ground if they get outta line.
j/k. I dunno the rest of the speech, so I'm probably taking that line out of context.
Well, the speech is pretty grim overall so i had an impression like: "Krogan are not to be hated and restricted just because they're Krogan, deal with it petty humans. I wouldn't care if there is only Krogan left in galaxy anyway."
TL;DR Renegade Control Shepard is not the good thing for The Galaxy, yeah.
Well, the speech is pretty grim overall so i had an impression like: "Krogan are not to be hated and restricted just because they're Krogan, deal with it petty humans. I wouldn't care if there is only Krogan left in galaxy anyway."
TL;DR Renegade Control Shepard is not the good thing for The Galaxy, yeah.
I'm doing my current playthrough as a (mostly) renegade, so maybe I'll try it out this time since it's likely to be my last run before Inquisition. Trouble is, I left Wrex alive on Virmire and had planned on sabotaging the genophage -- because I've never done that to poor Wrex before -- but oh well, i could still do that and pick renegade control anyway.
I just started ME2(again)with save where Wrex is dead.Anyone wants some?
And Im gonna delete the cure this time.No way I will give cure to Wreav.
That beast will start another war.
Genophage*
You know, from the Greek word phagos meaning eater.
I'm sure you can figure out what geno stands for.
bonus:
Yes my name is severely broken Latin/Greek. Correct Latin would be Animovorus (please correct me if there's some conjugation error in there, it's been a long time since I was in grammar school studying this stuff) and correct Ancient Greek would be Pyschephague
Psychevore sounds a lot more awesome though, so that's why I went with it. (and means eater of souls)
Actually in the Mass Effect universe, at least when referring to the krogan situation, its called the genophage. Or at least that is how its been spelt in every instance referring to it throughout the series, that I'm aware of.
Actually in the Mass Effect universe, at least when referring to the krogan situation, its called the genophage. Or at least that is how its been spelt in every instance referring to it throughout the series, that I'm aware of.
You're right >.>
Etymology remains the same though
Actually in the Mass Effect universe, at least when referring to the krogan situation, its called the genophage. Or at least that is how its been spelt in every instance referring to it throughout the series, that I'm aware of.
Grammar Cleric?Yes I spelled it wrong.No big deal.
Grammar Cleric?Yes I spelled it wrong.No big deal.
You're right it isn't a big deal. I wasn't making it a big deal. I'm not trying to be a 'grammar cleric'. Heck, I was one of the first people to reply to this topic and I didn't call you out on it. Infact I wasn't actually correcting you but rather I was correcting Psychevore who was in turn correcting you. The only reason I was correcting him was because I thought it was funny he was correcting you by telling you it was spelt such and such, when even he was spelling it wrong. See the humor in that?
Uh, no offense intended Psychevore. I just thought it was funny. If you're going to correct Operative on the correct spelling of the word be sure you're spelling it right yourself.
Again, no offense intended. Just a little lighthearted fun, hope theres no hurt feelings either way.
Edit: Completely unrelated (well, maybe not completely) but I just found out that if you google define: genophage it actually gives you the Mass Effect lore. Wow, I had no idea google went that deep to define things. Or is Mass Effect really just THAT popular? Lol
I've only cured the genophage with Wreav and Eve alive, with only Wreav alive and Eve dead, Wrex alive and Eve dead and with Wrex and Eve alive only to see the difference in the game otherwise I never cure it no matter whose in charge. I did cure one time after the Citadel dlc came out with Wrex since he makes an appearance in the dlc.
I like Wreav more than Wrex. The majority of my playthroughs, Wrex is either dead or not recruited.
I've only cured the genophage with Wreav and Eve alive, with only Wreav alive and Eve dead, Wrex alive and Eve dead and with Wrex and Eve alive only to see the difference in the game otherwise I never cure it no matter whose in charge. I did cure one time after the Citadel dlc came out with Wrex since he makes an appearance in the dlc.
I like Wreav more than Wrex. The majority of my playthroughs, Wrex is either dead or not recruited.
Okay, I have to ask... why the preference for Wreav and hate for Wrex?
I wouldn't be surprised to be honest if Mordin didn't 'cure' the genophage but instead altered it again to make the birthrate more akin to what humans have, a child once every nine months.
That way the Krogan have a future again but aren't going to breed a massive army as in the rebellions.
Padok Wiks is the one I kill. I have the feeling he'd see the galaxy burn if that is what he thought the Krogan were meant to do.
So IMO is strongly against curing.No matter who is alive.
That way the Krogan have a future again but aren't going to breed a massive army as in the rebellions.
Has anybody ever cured the genophage with Wreav in charge of things?
I did. The truth's even that with my two main Shepard-characters I cured with Wreav in one playthrough and sabotaged with Wrex in the other. Because It didn't really matter to me who was in charge.
a) From what I learned about Wrex in the games, especially in the first one, I don't really think he's so much better than Wreav. He was a pirate and a contract killer, he wanted to extinguish the Rachni. Ironically was how he used the same reasoning people used to justfy the genophage. Noticeable was how his first response to conflicts is always violence. On Virmire, nobody was threatening him. He pulls his gun first. It's up to your Shepard now to calm the situation. On Sur Kesh he almost causes an armed clash. Padok Wiks had to step in. On Tuchanka later he almost causes an armed fight with another clan leader. This time Eve/Bakana had to step in. Everytime someone has to stop him to not let the situation escalate. So I didn`t really buy into this idea that Wrex is the peaceful leader. Eve yes, but not Wrex.
b )The way I see it, the genophage was deployed because of the violent nature and culture of the Krogans. Leadership comes and goes and it won't drastically change peoples culture and even much less their nature.
So leadership never mattered to me, what mattered to me was what kind of character I was playing and what his/her mindset was.
I did. The truth's even that with my two main Shepard-characters I cured with Wreav in one playthrough and sabotaged with Wrex in the other. Because It didn't really matter to me who was in charge.
a) From what I learned about Wrex in the games, especially in the first one, I don't really think he's so much better than Wreav. He was a pirate and a contract killer, he wanted to extinguish the Rachni. Ironically was how he used the same reasoning people used to justfy the genophage. Noticeable was how his first response to conflicts is always violence. On Virmire, nobody was threatening him. He pulls his gun first. It's up to your Shepard now to calm the situation. On Sur Kesh he almost causes an armed clash. Padok Wiks had to step in. On Tuchanka later he almost causes an armed fight with another clan leader. This time Eve/Bakana had to step in. Everytime someone has to stop him to not let the situation escalate. So I didn`t really buy into this idea that Wrex is the peaceful leader. Eve yes, but not Wrex.
b )The way I see it, the genophage was deployed because of the violent nature and culture of the Krogans. Leadership comes and goes and it won't drastically change peoples culture and even much less their nature.
So leadership never mattered to me, what mattered to me was what kind of character I was playing and what his/her mindset was.
Wrex is a krogan. If he wasn't a strong warrior, and didn't have a past that reflected that, the krogan he's trying to unite wouldn't even listen to him, and probably would have killed him a long time ago. And he's not gonna unite the clans by handing out flowers to everyone either. It's the way he talks about the krogan after the cure that makes him different from Wreav. Seems like Wrex will try to co-exist with everyone else in the galaxy. Wreav ... not so much. There are no guarantees, and Wrex may indeed lead his people to war someday, but he'll at least be open to another way first. That's how I look at Wrex.
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