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Is Shepard no longer a Spectre?


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ArchibaldWheeler

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In this review (http://xbox-360.nowg...7/mass-effect-2) they say that "No longer a Spectre, nor sanctioned in any way by Earth’s military, he is shipless, friendless and at the mercy of shady human supremacist organization Cerberus. And that’s pretty much all we can tell you." What happened? :blink:

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RyuKazuha

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He died.

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ArchibaldWheeler

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So? Even if he kind of resurrected and the Council knowing this they revoked his Spectre status?


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mewarmo990

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I could tell you but it's spoilers.

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angelus2402004

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he/she is a former spectre

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T0paze

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That's a valid question, actually. I didn't like this aspect in Mass Effec 2.

The fact that Shepard died doesn't explain anything. He doesn't have any bureaucratic problems because of that. So, in fact, he should've been able to tell Cerberus to get lost and continue working as a Spectre. And, at the same time, contact the Alliance to investigate the abduction of human colonists. Instead, the developers basically forced the player to work for Cerberus.

Modifié par T0paze, 24 janvier 2010 - 04:21 .


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mewarmo990 can u pm me and tell me if he still is a spectre?pls

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DarthCaine

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I CAN tell you, but do you really want to know?

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When he wakes up, his status as a Spectre and in the Alliance military might as well be non-existent. There's no one able to help him except for Cerberus.

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T0paze wrote...

The fact that Shepard died doesn't explain anything. He doesn't have any bureaucratic problems because of that. In fact, he's recognized and can be reinstated as a Spectre immediately. So, in fact, he shouldve been able to tell Cerberus to get lost and continue working as a Spectre. And, at the same time, contact the Alliance to investigate the abduction of human colonists. Instead, the developers basically forced the player to work for Cerberus.

The fact that he came back to life would bring up a lot of questions from the Alliance/Council. And after all, Cerberus gives you a four-deck ship and a crew. What does the Council give you? A mission with only the Normandy. Hell, Cerberus even gives you information on who you have to find and where they'd be.

So it's better just to stick with Cerberus and not have those crazy bureaucracies asking crazy questions.

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T0paze wrote...

That's a valid question, actually. I didn't like this aspect in Mass Effec 2.

The fact that Shepard died doesn't explain anything. He doesn't have any bureaucratic problems because of that. So, in fact, he should've been able to tell Cerberus to get lost and continue working as a Spectre. And, at the same time, contact the Alliance to investigate the abduction of human colonists. Instead, the developers basically forced the player to work for Cerberus.

Why don't wait and play the game before you make assumptions?
All I can tell you is that EVERYTHING will be explained ingame

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ArchibaldWheeler

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Actually I don't mind working with Cerberus and also being a Spectre, but revoking your status after having exposed Saren, kicking the butt of Sovereign, dying and being reborn is so not cool.

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ArchibaldWheeler

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 Why don't wait and play the game before you make assumptions?
All I can tell you is that EVERYTHING will be explained ingame


I agree but we don't have anything else to do right now except making assumptions. :police:

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ChaoticBroth wrote...

T0paze wrote...

The fact that Shepard died doesn't explain anything. He doesn't have any bureaucratic problems because of that. In fact, he's recognized and can be reinstated as a Spectre immediately. So, in fact, he shouldve been able to tell Cerberus to get lost and continue working as a Spectre. And, at the same time, contact the Alliance to investigate the abduction of human colonists. Instead, the developers basically forced the player to work for Cerberus.

The fact that he came back to life would bring up a lot of questions from the Alliance/Council. And after all, Cerberus gives you a four-deck ship and a crew. What does the Council give you? A mission with only the Normandy. Hell, Cerberus even gives you information on who you have to find and where they'd be.

So it's better just to stick with Cerberus and not have those crazy bureaucracies asking crazy questions.


How about the fact that Cerberus is widely regarded as a terrorist organization? Not only by  aliens - by the Alliance as well.
It sounds like working for terrorists only because the government doesn't provide you with the same equipment.

Modifié par T0paze, 24 janvier 2010 - 04:28 .


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Cypher0020

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so Shepard's revoked status has more to do with the plot than him/her dying?

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"I don't have time to justify myself to your viewers. I have a galaxy to save, excuse me."



Frankly, whether you're sanctioned or not, you know what needs to be done, and you're gonna do it no matter what. You're Commander freaking Shepard. Do you think not being a Spectre is really gonna make a difference? lol.

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Shepard died...



If someone who should be dead came waltzing in do you really think they'd just restore everything, just like that?

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ArchibaldWheeler

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Vaulin Faust wrote...

"I don't have time to justify myself to your viewers. I have a galaxy to save, excuse me."

Frankly, whether you're sanctioned or not, you know what needs to be done, and you're gonna do it no matter what. You're Commander freaking Shepard. Do you think not being a Spectre is really gonna make a difference? lol.


Yes! I want the Spectre weapons again!

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They DO restore everything. They are perfectly willing to reinstate him as a Spectre. Like I said, he doesn't have any bureaucratic problems because of his death. That's the problem, because even after that he's forced to work with Cerberus instead of getting help from the Alliance.

Modifié par T0paze, 24 janvier 2010 - 04:31 .


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T0paze wrote...

They DO restore everything. They are perfectly willing to reinstate him as a Spectre. That's the problem, because even after that he's forced to work with Cerberus instead of getting help from the Alliance.


Is this true or speculation? Inquiring minds want to know.

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I haven't played yet, but here is my guess. I'd assume that upon the Alliance and the Citadel hearing of your death, they had a big funeral with lots of crying and such. They better have or things are going to be real awkward when I show back up and find out only Joker showed up. To the Citadel and the Alliance Shepard is dead. Having to explain how you are not would make thing very complicated when you need to go solve the Colony disappearance issue. Its just easier to be Wraith Shep. Besides maybe it makes a nice suprise in the third act.

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the reson why is in ME 1

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SwordsmanofShadow wrote...

T0paze wrote...

They DO restore everything. They are perfectly willing to reinstate him as a Spectre. That's the problem, because even after that he's forced to work with Cerberus instead of getting help from the Alliance.


Is this true or speculation? Inquiring minds want to know.

That's true.
Ok, maybe not PERFECTLY willing (which is understandable, given his current ties with Cerberus) but they do reinstate him without any problem.

Modifié par T0paze, 24 janvier 2010 - 04:34 .


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SwordsmanofShadow

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Airell wrote...

the reson why is in ME 1


Let me guess: the Council decision.

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T0paze wrote...

That's true.
Ok, maybe not PERFECTLY willing (which is understandable, given his current ties with Cerberus) but they do reinstate him without any problem.


Can you go into deeper context without spoiling TO MUCH in the way of spoilers? You can PM me if you so wish.