Guest_TheDarkKnightReturns_*
Relax, I'm just making a few snarky comments, not trying to stifle discussion. You guys keep making Nazi comparisons all you want.
Nah that wasn't a shot at you or anything. I'm not in super serious mode either. I just find the lack of censorship refreshing and think that it should be utilized appropriately. My opinions on this has been made pretty clear in this thread. I'm just sitting back reading and considering similar/differing arguments while enjoying the show at this point.
German = someone born in germany what part of that should make a german feel ashamed in 1946? Oh i don't know maybe the whole thing about death camps.
Yes gamer = someone who plays games. just like german = Someone born in germany. Not all Germans kill people in death camps not all germans agreed with it but it is not unreasonable for the nation to feel a collective sense of shame for the minority of germans that committed ethnic cleansing and genocide. Germany went through a collective sense of shame and grieving for what they did as a nation.
Gamers should also have a collective sense of shame that within our ranks people can do not only deplorable things but can be celebrated for doing said things. That people can make murderous threats and the collective result is the vast majority go "Meh. It happens whats the big deal?" Oh i don't know the big deal is it shouldn't be acceptable to make threats like those just because you disagree with a position. This behaviour isn't confined to targetting feminists, there is a case of a player on EvE online who publically stated he want to harrass another player and called other players "to arms" for the purpose of harassing a player so badly that they would kill themselves. That was his stated goal to make someones life in a game so miserable the killed themselves. (The person did not kill themselves to be clear). This type of vile behaviour is not an issolated case, it might be a minority but we the majority allow it the exist.
I disagree that an individual should necessarily have to feel any guild because of a label thrown onto them regardless of their actions. I do think people should make an individual and collective effort to stamp out these mentalities, just like how many workplaces would fire a person for something racist or sexist or discriminating in any way, and online games will perm-ban players for such things.
If I see someone saying racism or sexist slurs in a game I'm not obligated to stop it because I'm a gamer and I don't like the images of gamers being slandered, I'm obligated because I want to be a decent human being because I understand the value a society has in not allowing that mentality to fester.
The 'gamer culture' I understand us to be discussing specifically is the kind who is aware of 'gamergate', not your average gamer. The online gamers with nothing better to do than b*tch on forums all day long, and evidently, look up people's personal information to send them rape and death threats.
And I'm not throwing around this 'shame' to mean that as a gamer you should personally feel ashamed for supporting rape and death threats because the generalization exists. That's not how it works. If I'm ashamed as a gamer it's because I know there are enough people in this 'community' who do those things for the generalization to exist, and evidently not enough people speaking out against them to stamp it out. I know full well I don't personally support those things and any accusations that I do would be met with simple incredulity, not defensiveness. But it's still shameful that I'm technically a part of this.
I've never even heard of Gamergate before this whole thing with Anita tbh.
For what it's worth I think it's good that you care about the issue at hand, but I personally feel no shame in others believing something which I feel is morally reprehensible because I share the same hobbies as them.
Guest_Puddi III_*
If I see someone saying racism or sexist slurs in a game I'm not obligated to stop it because I'm a gamer and I don't like the images of gamers being slandered, I'm obligated because I want to be a decent human being because I understand the value a society has in not allowing that mentality to fester.
There's enough room for both. Evidently you do care about not seeing the image of gamers be slandered, and about being a decent human being. So just do that. 
I've never even heard of Gamergate before this whole thing tbh.
For what it's worth I think it's good that you care about the issue at hand, but I feel no shame in others believing something which I feel is morally reprehensible because I share the same hobbies as them.
How dare you not feel shame or guilt!
/s
Says who? Hugbox clutchers?
That's a pretty distinct insult that I've only ever heard from Gamergate supporters. Pretty much tells me I shouldn't bother talking to you.
How dare you not feel shame or guilt!
/s
I did enough of that growing up as a Christian tyvm
Guest_Puddi III_*
How dare you not feel shame or guilt!
/s
Coming from the guy who admits saying horribly misogynistic things for the lulz, yeah what a surprise you are a shameless f*ck.
Coming from the guy who admits saying horribly misogynistic things for the lulz, yeah what a surprise you are a shameless f*ck.
Would you care for a hugbox dear sir?
And yes I did say some or a lot of racy things but I ultimately have as much guilt saying those things as I do about my country murdering and pillaging across Europe during WW2: None.
Dude, you take things way too seriously.
So I'm supposed to feel guilit and shame for being a gamer because somebody wrote a death threat on the internet now? Really?
How much money must I give Saint Anita to erase my guilt?
There's enough room for both. Evidently you do care about not seeing the image of gamers be slandered, and about being a decent human being. So just do that.
I will. But I'm still going to tell people who attach connotations to a label it doesn't belong why it's wrong.
How is this thread still going on? We've long since passed Godwin's threshold.
Guest_Tevaite_*
So I'm supposed to feel guilit and shame for being a gamer because somebody wrote a death threat on the internet now? Really?
How much money must I give Saint Anita to erase my guilt?
A general guideline to paying for your sins.
You can estimate from there.
How is this thread still going on? We've long since passed Godwin's threshold.
because its funny?
seriously everytime someone rallies to her defence it looks so pathetic it makes me giggle ^^
because its funny?
seriously everytime someone rallies to her defence it looks so pathetic it makes me giggle ^^
The Sacred Order of the White Knights is no laughing matter! Bigot!
because its funny?
seriously everytime someone rallies to her defence it looks so pathetic it makes me giggle ^^
No I mean why haven't the mods brought the hammer down?
Is this one of their new tactics? Waiting for prey to crowd into a thread and killing us all off in one go?
I'm scared.
because its funny?
seriously everytime someone rallies to her defence it looks so pathetic it makes me giggle ^^
It's funny that someone received death threats and bomb threats?
The Sacred Order of the White Knights is no laughing matter! Bigot!
im terribly sorry for furthering the patriarchy and its evil aims, how ever could you have found me out?!?!
naturally i am off to commit sudoku at once
It's funny that someone received death threats and bomb threats?
nope, its funny how she notifies twitter before the police though, nice to see people getting their priorities straight
Guest_TheDarkKnightReturns_*
naturally i am off to commit sudoku at once
I don't think this is what you think it means...
I don't think this is what you think it means...
its called sarcasm
I don't think this is what you think it means...
Its a new age thing I'm sure.
nope, its funny how she notifies twitter before the police though, nice to see people getting their priorities straight
And that is relevant how?
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