If that was an option, I don't think you'd have to go anywhere but here. The forums would explode, with both outrage and unbridled glee.
True. I would have seen many threads about it by now.
You know what, I'm disappointed Anders wasn't in DA:I. I was hoping to see him if he was alive in the world save, not in Redcliffe, but in the Hinterlands fighting to the death. With cutscenes and options to engage him in dialogue, support him, or fight against him.
That could work. I can definitely see how a character like that could adhere to a rigid code and see himself as 'righteous' in a way. Are Ben-Hassrath able to have romances?
Thinking of character like this, I know that we've spoken about ME characters that might be KISAs (and I'm keenly aware that I tried to shift away from this very type of discussion), but would people consider Samara to be a KISA? I can't remember her coming up before.
Tricky part about having a romance with a true follower of the Qun:
"We love our friends as much as anyone. We just don't have sex with them."--Iron Bull
That being said, that's a good idea for Hana's thread.
As to your second point, Samara would also qualify actually. Her rigidity to the Code, and to her way of life are very typical of the archetype. Good point. 
Isn't IB one?
I think the relationship ends if you get him to stay with the Qun, if I recall correctly.
Tricky part about having a romance with a true follower of the Qun:
"We love our friends as much as anyone. We just don't have sex with them."--Iron Bull
That being said, that's a good idea for Hana's thread.
As to your second point, Samara would also qualify actually. Her rigidity to the Code, and to her way of life are very typical of the archetype. Good point.
I think the relationship ends if you get him to stay with the Qun, if I recall correctly.
Yeah, and if we had a "Will he reject the Qun for the romance?" plot, it might read too close to Bull's personal quests. It is a pretty damned cool idea for a non-romance character though.
I was kind of leaning towards that as well, but now I'm afraid to discuss any opinions of who may be or may not be since it keeps getting picked apart. So that's interesting that there are not one, but two KISA types in ME who are bisexual (even if Samara isn't a full-on romance).
I'm not a fan of the Qun. The fact that Bull becoming Tal-Vashoth ties in neatly with saving the Chargers makes me very happy, I must admit.
A Qun-following LI would take lots of getting used to for me. If they try to proselytize, then that would be a deal-breaker.
I'm not a fan of the Qun. The fact that Bull becoming Tal-Vashoth ties in neatly with saving the Chargers makes me very happy, I must admit.
A Qun-following LI would take lots of getting used to for me. If they try to proselytize, then that would be a deal-breaker.
Thinking about Sebastian, I will say that his faith was not one of my issues with him. In fact, I thought the writers did an excellent job. I didn't find him annoying for his faith, nor all that preachy. He was alright there. I think the writers can work with this Qun idea.
Personal complaint about a Qun LI: We've had a DLC and now a full game with current/former members of the Qun, and I still can't ask about mages. Why some Qunari think that "demons ride a mage's very words," and others seem more laid back. I'd like to be able to question the next Qunari that enters there party about the differences. The different ranks of the Qun seem to hold different viewpoints on some issues than the rest. It would also give the players a chance to see more of the complexities of the Qun, and where love can fit into all of this.
Personally, I can see a Qun KISA type bending the rules when it comes to sex, if the player should so choose. It would be interesting to have a Qunari that's apart of the Qun less open than Bull, but more world aware than Sten.
Boy, I'm getting all sorts of picky today. I guess it's the Well my character drank. Coffee and off to finish the game with my warrior. 
Edit: Not a Qun fan either, and I agree about Bull and the Chargers. Felt good to watch them walk away back to Skyhold.
Thinking about Sebastian, I will say that his faith was not one of my issues with him. In fact, I thought the writers did an excellent job. I didn't find him annoying for his faith, nor all that preachy. He was alright there.
Personal complaint about a Qun LI: We've had a DLC and now a full game with current/former members of the Qun, and I still can't ask about mages. Why some Qunari think that "demons ride a mage's very words," and others seem more laid back. I'd like to be able to question the next Qunari that enters there party about the differences. The different ranks of the Qun seem to hold different viewpoints on some issues than the rest. It would also give the players a chance to see more of the complexities of the Qun, and where love can fit into all of this.
Personally, I can see a Qun KISA type bending the rules when it comes to sex, if the player should so choose. It would be interesting to have a Qunari that's apart of the Qun less open than Bull, but more world aware than Sten.
Boy, I'm getting all sorts of picky today. I guess it's the Well my character drank. Coffee and off to finish the game with my warrior.
Sebastian's whole marching on Kirkwall thing made me raise an eyebrow, but I didn't have a problem with him being devout. He didn't force his beliefs IMO.
Yeah, the whole mages thing. I could just see that hypothetical Qunari character being the next super-polarizing character if the PC got to discuss mage treatment under the Qun with him/her.
Oh, I have yet to drink from the well. I haven't felt like denying Morrigan of the knowledge that she craves. That she is now tied to her mother (unless Flemeth is gone which will make me sooooo upset) is just poetic. But I really believe that Flemeth loves Morrigan and wants to pass her gifts to her.
Sebastian's whole marching on Kirkwall thing made me raise an eyebrow, but I didn't have a problem with him being devout. He didn't force his beliefs IMO.
Agreed. Although, I'll admit to pulling several eye muscles from eye-rolling at his statements about faith. That's just me though.
After DA: I, there's no way I'd consider him a KISA anymore. But it is an interesting KISA-esque character morphing into a dark version of himself because of his need for personal vengeance.
Agreed. Although, I'll admit to pulling several eye muscles from eye-rolling at his statements about faith. That's just me though.
After DA: I, there's no way I'd consider him a KISA anymore. But it is an interesting KISA-esque character morphing into a dark version of himself because of his need for personal vengeance.
He reminds me of Aribeth in a way, thinking about it.
Now I'm really going back to my game. 
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I don't think Qunari are the proselytizing type anyways. There's an urgency and neediness to proselytizers. The Qunari are very much like their appearance. Slow and steady like a cow. And kind of dismissive. Unbelievers are barely people. They're bas that can't really understand. At best, they merely state their view and let people come to them (like the disenfranchised elves). And if that doesn't work, they'll just invade and take your stuff eventually anyways.
I don't think Qunari are the proselytizing type anyways. There's an urgency and neediness to proselytizers. The Qunari are very much like their appearance. Slow and steady like a cow. And kind of dismissive. Unbelievers are barely people. They're bas that can't really understand. At best, they merely state their view and let people come to them (like the disenfranchised elves). And if that doesn't work, they'll just invade and take your stuff eventually anyways.
Yeah, it's pretty awful IMO.
Oh, I have yet to drink from the well. I haven't felt like denying Morrigan of the knowledge that she craves. That she is now tied to her mother (unless Flemeth is gone which will make me sooooo upset) is just poetic. But I really believe that Flemeth loves Morrigan and wants to pass her gifts to her.
I've always trusted Morrigan, and I want to believe Flemeth has a good side too. Their scenes in the Fade were the best in the game IMO.
Also, while it was a tiny thing, I *really* liked that Cullen had Aveline's back there. I've always liked Cullen, despite never following his advice on mages.
I really want to believe that, too.
A Qunari KISA would definitely be interesting. Romance-wise it wouldn't differ much from a devout Andrastian in the Chantry who had vows. Could be worked around.
I've been thinking: if they weren't the Inquisitor and were a companion or LI, then Travelyan would count, right? I went with Adaar but I found their background blurb interesting. I really like the religious themes in DA, being somewhat religious myself and finding the history of religion interesting IRL. I think someone modelled on the idea of a female Sebastian would be up my street. Minus the Kirkwall storming...Seriously!! I sent Cullen to kick his ass out of there.
I *loved* the scene with Flemeth, Morrigan, and Kieran in the Fade.
When Flemeth shouted "And I will see her [Mythal] avenged!!" I got goosebumps.
And when she said, "A soul is never forced upon the unwilling, Morrigan. You were never in any danger from me...." I legit got misty-eyed.
I love Flemeth. I *never* kill her in Origins.
Trevelyan can totally count if you play him/her as a KISA, and Aveline is one of my favorite companions of the series.
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I really want to believe that, too.
A Qunari KISA would definitely be interesting. Romance-wise it wouldn't differ much from a devout Andrastian in the Chantry who had vows. Could be worked around.
I've been thinking: if they weren't the Inquisitor and were a companion or LI, then Travelyan would count, right? I went with Adaar but I found their background blurb interesting. I really like the religious themes in DA, being somewhat religious myself and finding the history of religion interesting IRL. I think someone modelled on the idea of a female Sebastian would be up my street. Minus the Kirkwall storming...Seriously!! I sent Cullen to kick his ass out of there.
One type of Trevelyan, yeah (I mean, the mage is a bit different). Their story is similar to Sebastian's predicament. But for some reason, they're less annoying to Varric. So they have that going for them.
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Not to brag, but my lady Travelyan certainly counts in my opinion. She's a Champion, and has her armor tinted in Silverite for that perfect touch. Her leather isn't white, but that's because I wanted it to match her masterwork shield. The shield turns out greenish no matter what you do, so I have leather to match. I'll make sure to show her off before I end the game. Almost all of her choices have been on the side of Law and Order (got Cass set up as Divine,) although she is prone to the occasional sarcasm and smartassed jokes.
I've still got Morrigan and....an old friend to go chat with. I'm holding off playing until my husband leaves for work.
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I choose Morrigan for the well, simply because I don't want to get screwed with more ancient magic. She can have it all she wants.. I don't know if it's gonna turn out well for her or not.
I kind of headcanon that it was simply out of necessity, though. Not many job opportunities for Tal-Vashoth in Thedas after all!
I've still got Morrigan and....an old friend to go chat with. I'm holding off playing until my husband leaves for work.
BEST. PART OF THE GAME.
BEST. PART OF THE GAME.
One of my favorites as well.
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I have this whole headcanon where Cass and my Quizzy are the diametric opposites of Warden and the Witch. I don't them to be friends. I'd pay for a death match.
I have this whole headcanon where Cass and my Quizzy are the diametric opposites of Warden and the Witch. I don't them to be friends. I'd pay for a death match.
So...Leliana and Morrigan then?
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So...Leliana and Morrigan then?
Not sure I understand?
My favorite headcanon for Leliana is in another realm for me.. totally different stories, different Inquisitor, and Morrigan is more of a background character.
In this other case, my Inquisitor is the rival. As a mage. Warden was an a-hole warrior... more different from Cass.
Not sure I understand?
My favorite headcanon for Leliana is in another realm for me.. totally different stories, different Inquisitor, and Morrigan is more of a background character.
In this other case, my Inquisitor is the rival. As a mage. Warden was an a-hole warrior... more different from Cass.
When it comes to Leliana and Morrigan, I was referring to their relationship in DA:O. They were definitely rivals, especially if you tried to romance them both. That's what I was getting at. Talk about a cage match I would have liked to see.
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I was referring to their relationship in DA:O. They were definitely rivals, especially if you tried to romance them both. That's what I was getting at.
Yeah, I just figured that out.
Kind of, but not exactly. The similarity to Leliana is he's similar in ethics. But it's also specifically about how mages view ethics and affect the world. I think my Inquisitor and Morrigan couldn't be more different there.
Anders probably fits in somewhere too..
Yeah, I just figured that out.
Kind of, but not exactly. The similarity to Leliana is he's similar in ethics. But it's also specifically about how mages view ethics and affect the world. I think my Inquisitor and Morrigan couldn't be more different there.
Anders probably fits in somewhere too..
My warrior is okay with Morrigan, though she doesn't trust her as far as she could throw her (and she's a tank spec too.) She likes Leliana, but thinks she's too idealistic for her own good. I softened her, but I think Leliana would not make a good Divine for this playthrough. Cass and Valena (my quizzy) might as well be long lost sisters.
Nothing like being a diplomat, a fighter, a knight, and a lover all at once. Hold onto your honor, hold onto your humility, and help those in need, regardless of personal gain. Thus some of the ways of the KISA.
On that note, I need a nap. I got less than 5 hours of sleep. I'll be back later tonight. In the meantime, to everyone, stay safe if your country practices St. Patrick's Day!
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My warrior is okay with Morrigan, though she doesn't trust her as far as she could throw her (and she's a tank spec too.) She likes Leliana, but thinks she's too idealistic for her own good. I softened her, but I think Leliana would not make a good Divine for this playthrough. Cass and Valena (my quizzy) might as well be long lost sisters.
Nothing like being a diplomat, a fighter, a knight, and a lover all at once. Hold onto your honor, hold onto your humility, and help those in need, regardless of personal gain. Thus some of the ways of the KISA.
On that note, I need a nap. I got less than 5 hours of sleep. I'll be back later tonight. In the meantime, stay safe if your country practices St. Patrick's Day!
i like your character..
I sort of derailed by mentioning mine... I guess he could be a KISA (for a mage), but I kind of got sidetracked with the Morrigan discussion.
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