<pops out of lurk mode>
Hun, you can ask Ares. That is a poster that has rolled up new accounts a few times to dodge a ban. Trust me, it's not worth it. He's just going to try to sidetrack and derail the thread. This isn't the first time he's been in here.
Sorry, sorry. I'll try to exercise restraint. 
Try. 
You said that in this thread, and who's whimpering about violence? Not I, sir.
I'm glad to hear it. Personally, I would absolutely love to see a very major female character start out as genuinely weak, terrified, and unskilled, just as any regular person would be when faced with the very real possibility of imminent death, and slowly rise to the competence of the protagonist. Unfortunately, that's immensely difficult to do gameplay-wise, and at this point I wouldn't put much faith at all into BioWare's writers being good enough to pull it off anyways. There have been plenty of novice party members, but their inexperience has always been sidestepped.
But I digress. What matters is that we agree that 'competent feminine women' do not look like this. At least in a dramatic story. Right?
Sorry, sorry. I'll try to exercise restraint.
Try.
Some days are easier than others.
I'm in lurk mode because I haven't bought the DLC yet. This sounds a little selfish, but I'm waiting to see if the modding community can get mods working with the latest patch and DLC. One of the most recent mods on nexus is a method to roll back to patch 5. I figure while I'm waiting, I'm playing the ME series again. I forgot how much I miss a friendship in a game like Garrus'.
That's another thing I would want to put onto a list for a potential KISA: Friendship. With few exceptions, it seems like BioWare has treated friendship and romance separately. Romance and all of that is all well and good, but it doesn't have the same impact for me without friendship. That's why characters like Garrus and Iron Bull work so well as a romance for me. I can get along with them as people, and I found both of their friendship paths well done. Bull's isn't as deep, but Garrus also had three games to get that way. 
I also liked Steve a lot, even though I wouldn't roll a male Shepard. I hate that gorilla stomp that passes for a run animation. That aside, Steve was someone I could be friends with and just relax around. That kind of character is rare. I also like that, despite him being a widower, his sexuality wasn't a huge deal. The writers treated him like they would any widow(er), and I appreciated that.
Something I've learned from my parents (who have been together for almost 38 years) and something I've learned as a happily married woman (been with my husband for over 11 years now:) Being best friends is the only way to be lovers. Staying best friends is the only way to be married.
Well, this is my punishment for taking two days away from the thread. In order not to retread everything stated, I'll summarize how I feel:
We need more masc gay men in media
Bioware has done pretty well on M/M romances
We need more competent women in media
Bioware has done very well on competent women
Bae and I are playing Diablo 3 together. He chose Crusader, I'm his lovely (female) wizard companion. It works about as well as our relationship in real life; I stand back and cast stinging aspersions and biting commentary (spells) and he's up front, taking the brunt of my repercussions.
Fabulous.
Something I've learned from my parents (who have been together for almost 38 years) and something I've learned as a happily married woman (been with my husband for over 11 years now:) Being best friends is the only way to be lovers. Staying best friends is the only way to be married.
Aww. 
Well, this is my punishment for taking two days away from the thread. In order not to retread everything stated, I'll summarize how I feel:
We need more masc gay men in media
Bioware has done pretty well on M/M romances
We need more competent women in media
Bioware has done very well on competent women
Bae and I are playing Diablo 3 together. He chose Crusader, I'm his lovely (female) wizard companion. It works about as well as our relationship in real life; I stand back and cast stinging aspersions and biting commentary (spells) and he's up front, taking the brunt of my repercussions.
Fabulous.
Sounds like my husband and I while playing D3. Only, he's the lady barbarian while Lauren Bailey er my demon hunter does great DPS. He's usually trying to press any sort of button or lever while I'm begging him not to. I know I'm in trouble when he starts giggling. My Sasquatch (real life nickname, not hairy but has long hair and size 15 feet) does not giggle, unless something is about to blow up. He giggles a lot while playing Saints Row the 4th.
And yes to more masculine gay men in media! That's one of the things that I feel like this thread is about.
Aww.
I learned that when I was 15. It's true 20 years later. 
Hm. Some interesting discussions in here while I was away. So long as things don't get heated, I think that discussing "masculinity" and "femininity" and the way that characters, especially LGBT characters, are portrayed in media is rather fitting to this thread.
I learned that when I was 15. It's true 20 years later.
I 100% agree when it comes to real world romantic relationship. A foundation in friendship is essential to me.
When it comes to my tastes for romantic stories, though, it's a lot different.
My favorite LI's in DA haven't been people agree on much with, like Fenris. I'm a sucker for "opposites attract," and I never want the characters in the fictional romances to be "too" alike. For Cullen I made a rogue with a Dagna level fixation on the Arcane, For Dorian I made someone who had deeply believed in his duties as an aspiring Templar and whose whole mindset was shaken by falling for a Tevinter Mage, and for Cass I made a self-indulgent, vain Necromancer.
On the other hand, I enjoy the friendly romances too...Kaiden. 
Oh, wait...that got angsty too. Maybe that's why I loved it so much.
So I just started this Spartacus thing everyone has been going on about. And...just wow...Next two LI's confirmed: Templar KISA and Tevinter gladiator
Tevinter gladiator...Hmm.
Bisexual pls.
Tevinter gladiator...Hmm.
Bisexual pls.
Better than Avvar, don't give them the LI curse lol
Better than Avvar, don't give them the LI curse lol
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Went over my head.
Tevinter gladiator...Hmm.
Bisexual pls.
Of course. Dual wield warrior though.
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Went over my head.
Being a romance
Of course. Dual wield warrior though.
What if he wasn't born into slavery but was a Fog Warrior who was captured and put into the arena?
I'm really hoping for a Fog warrior companion some day.
What if he wasn't born into slavery but was a Fog Warrior who was captured and put into the arena?
I'm really hoping for a Fog warrior companion some day.
Oh, interesting.
I'm blanking. Do we know what Fog Warriors are? Human? Qunari? Elves?
What if he wasn't born into slavery but was a Fog Warrior who was captured and put into the arena?
I'm really hoping for a Fog warrior companion some day.
Nah, I'd like a Fog warrior on his or her own terms. The Tevinter should be of a lower class so we can see first hand the barbarism. Or he could even come from a magister's family but was born without magic, and resolved to prove himself worthy in some other fashion.
Oh, interesting.
I'm blanking. Do we know what Fog Warriors are? Human? Qunari? Elves?
The lore is very vague, as far as I know only Fenris and Bull have spoken much about them. I think they're probably a combination of races. They're freedom fighters, as I understand, avoiding being captured by both Tevinter and the Qunari.
http://dragonage.wik...ki/Fog_Warriors
Oh, interesting.
I'm blanking. Do we know what Fog Warriors are? Human? Qunari? Elves?
I think they're human...
Oh, interesting.
I'm blanking. Do we know what Fog Warriors are? Human? Qunari? Elves?
Maybe they're a new race
It's all very mysterious, but there are a few interesting things said about them. One thing that really intrigues me, is that Fenris called them, I think "Free with their affections."
I wonder what, specifically, he meant by that. It might be easy to find a sensuous subtext there, but he could mean "affection" in a platonic sense. I think they probably have a very strong sense of community.
...I really want one for a companion. Lol.
It's all very mysterious, but there are a few interesting things said about them. One thing that really intrigues me, is that Fenris called them, I think "Free with their affections."
I wonder what, specifically, he meant by that. It might be easy to find a sensuous subtext there, but he could mean "affection" in a platonic sense. I think they probably have a very strong sense of community.
...I really want one for a companion. Lol.
I also want another Rivaini companion
Maybe they're a new race
I would hope that Fenris would have mentioned that.
For now I'd rather assume that they're more of an semi-organized group than a race, one which collects strays if Fenris' account can be relied on.
Off topic, I'm building a fanfic in my head about the InquisAdaar's parents. His father was a saarabas, and his mother the avaraad to him...I'm a little scared to begin writing though. I feel it might consume me and my life.
I also want another Rivaini companion
A seer!
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